Just to clear it up. Is slipstream collaboration during pre-quali allowed? I guess it is as there's no contact between cars, but I want to make sure.

EDIT: Just connected to the server and 50% of the times are below WR so I guess it was an unnecessary question.

Last edited by MaKaKaZo, Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:46.

If one-man teams are acounted, then "Q3 escudería" is also missing with me and... some points.

I'm no expert, but I guess that you can use xvid with double pass encoding. First you should generate an uncompressed master video using your favorite video edition software (premiere, vegas, etc) and then use something like virtualdub for compressing it into a normal sized video using a two-pass encoding codec. I think all of this is covered in the "making LFS movies #2" thread in the "Editing" section: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=53389

Fraps is OK.

I don't understand what you mean by host availability issue, can you explain?

I'm vey interested in racing hours. We are a big team and we have drivers with different levels, but for most of us anything before 20:00 UTC on a sunday is very soon to race, so I don't think that our people who would qualify to the pools that take place on early hours could participate. Can you explain how is usually time distributed in a normal race?

It's a shame you don't do full grids. In my opinion that was the best addition for league racing, but I guess that with people from very different countries lag issues may appear with many drivers connected.

(Reply via PM if you think this is off-topic).

Hi, I haven't participated in any season so far, but I'm very interested in this league for my team. By taking a look at the site I see that you hold races on different times, I guess to allow multiple pools on the same day. Have you thought about the possibility of using additional servers so the time frame can be reduced? Teams with private servers might be willing to lend their servers for league races on sundays so you can run several pools simultaneosly on different servers.

Regarding the scoring system, I'm with Psiho, point difference between pools should be higher and at least top3 in each pool should get a higher reward in points.

Also, I agree on what has been said about the schedule. Dragging the season to the second half of December is a bit too much.

If the provisional info on the new season is good I think I can have at least 10 teammates to participate regularly

Please start the pre-quali soon, I can only do laps today.

Is the pre-qualy for round 2 going to be the same as for round 1? Are there going to be spots reserved for first drivers in standings like they do in other leagues or is it going to be again online pre-qualy for everybody and top32 make it to the event?

Quote from ChiliFan :

guess who's back with another mediocre video about people on public servers who can't drive

this one goes out to everyone who drives into an accident and tries to recover while it is still happening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhxK1Vun8gw

Loved it Is that IHR server?

I wouldn't spend a minute trying any of those, but I liked the video, it's something different You guys have too much free time on your hands.

Anyway, the way LFS is I would rather see any circuit that allows multiple configurations. Think that you don't get new circuits for this game that often, so when a new one comes along I hope that we don't have just the normal/reverse versions, but also multiple choices as we have in FE, AS and SO. That's something this circuit can't provide.

Again, I like this track but I find it too narrow for LFS. It's not really a good track for most of the cars in the game.

Maybe I misheard some things, my English listening skills are far for perfect

I have to say that I was being a little too nice with the scores. I would deduct maybe one more point in organization because of the "putting barriers into the chicane" thing. It wasn't clear if we could cut or not during pre-qualy, and having us not cutting in some sessions, but doing it in others didn't make sense. I didn't like how they handled it.

Btw, we started the feature race at 19:59 UTC, which is a delay of 9 minutes off the announced time. It's not that big a delay to make all that fuss.

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btw, is it possible to download the stream somewhere?

Yes. Go to the multibc site, click on downloads on the top of the page, and then browse "stream 3" and look for the date of the race "23 february 2010". I downloaded it yesterday night after the race. I had to play it with WMP because it needs a microsoft codec, I guess a Silverlight codec.

About the race, I was blown away by some people behaviour. If I had to give scores:

Organization: 3/5
Broadcast: 4/5
Clean racing: 2/5
Racers behaviour: 1/5
Fun: 3/5
Overall: 3/5


Organization:

There were problems configuring the grids and that took some time. Also admins couldn't handle angry people very well. In my opinion there shouldn't be any insulting/flaming allowed. It was the first race though, so it's kind of understandable.

Broadcast:

The broadcast was nice (I watched it yesterday after the race). Anyway, commentators should try to be more objective and not focus only on the supposedly fastest drivers. Any guy racing in top10-top5 should get equal treatment. Also, I already said that commentators shouldn't state that someone made a mistake if they see him off the track, because many times it's not his fault. Multibc quality was good

Clean racing:

Tons of bumping from behind. I was taken out in the last corner twice in the feature race because of bumping. I also saw a lot of bumping involving other drivers while watching the broadcast, and felt bad because the comentators didn't say anything about it.

Racers behaviour:

This was the worst of all, and makes me wonder ir it's worth continuing in this league. During the grid problems a lot of people were insulting each other, saying things like "this race is retarded", "omfg start now or I will leave"... In general, behaviour by some drivers was despictable. I don't like to take part in leagues were I have the impression that I'm racing with 10 year old brats with a big mouth. If there are problems, you just respect the work of the admins and then make a statement about it later in the forums. Bitching was awful.

Fun:

In the end I had fun because it had been some time since my last official event, and also because in the feature race I had a very long clean fight with #10 which I really enjoyed. Anyway, if it wasn't for that guy...

Overall:

I'm not quite sure. I had a nice time but I felt that most of the drivers were way too agressive, and some people's behaviour was off-putting. If it wasn't for the last fight with #10 I'd say that it was a bad experience. I'm my opiniong, although there were some problems with the organization, the main issue were the drivers themselves.

Sorry if someone is offended by my words, I'm just trying to make a personal report regarding my experience in this, my first IFCL race.

Greetings.

Quote from Mr.46 :

Between #08 (A.Moroz) and #46 (J.Lappalainen)
#08 hits #46 in the last wide corner, so that #46 loses 5-6 positions
Lap: Sprint Race, lap 2

Read the first post and use the link provided

I think I'm downloading the broadcast now, this file at multibc:

"mardi 23 février 2010 21:34 463645964 StreamIII_20100223.wmv"

If that's it I'll have a look at it tomorrow and throw some words about it. I hope you gave some screen time to my very long fight with "10# J.Bakšys" Clean racing there for the kids to learn hahaha

EDIT:

Well you gave screen time to all the times that someone pushed/bumped me off-track. I'm pissed though that the angles were bad and it was later advertised by the commentators "Mákaro is making a lot of mistakes" when acually it was people bumping me over and over again. Please if you see a car off the track and don't know how it happened just say "something happened to driver X, he's off the track", don't say that he made a mistake because it makes you look bad as a driver when it could be someone pushing you from behind.

Btw, I've seen TONS of bumping in this broadcast. I hope this is not the way it goes for the rest of the season. There's people who don't give a damn about the car in front, they just bump and bump and bump again until there's a corner and the bump leads to a spin

Last edited by MaKaKaZo, Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:12.

I forgot to save the replay of the sprint race. Please notify when it gets posted somewhere as I need to take a look at it for a possible protest. Thanks.

0.2 seconds? I think you gain more than 0.2 seconds by cutting that corner, and the racing line is much easier when you cut it. Why not make it like 0.5 - 1 seconds?

Quote from oldnavy :

That means that from Qualifying start you wont be able to do Shift+p and shift+s and join track again, if you want to refuel you have to drive to pits and refuel and so on, like in real life

Ok. I guess then that if we roll over of have a heavily damaged car which would be too dangerous to drive to pits we should use shift+p to go pits and not go back to the track until session is finished, right?

(I think shift+s can make you lose your grid position, but don't know if that is right...)

I didn't attend to the test race and I have a question regarding qualifying. What does that "hardcore 20 minutes session" mean? We have to keep running for 20 minutes non-stop during qualify? Can't we make pit stops? I mean real pit-stops to repair damage for example, not shift+p.

I don't understand the mechanic of that qualifying session. Could someone explain how it works and what we are allowed to do?

I also interpreted it as "no cutting allowed" and made my best efforts to go under 53 without cutting the chicane. It should have been said very clearly and explicitly that "cutting is allowed during pre-qualy". It's just a few words.

And to me, it doesn't make any sense to let people cut in any of the sessions, but what makes even less sense is to let people cut in pre-qualy AND race but not in qualy.

Is this the definitive version? I miss some text, logo or anything that indicates that this is a promo movie of the Polish LFS league.

The video is very cool, but as they have said, skins would make it look a lot better, also some text or logo relating it to the Polish league is important, and the ending could be better. It looks kinda incomplete to me, like most of the hard work has been done but it needs the finishing touches.

+1 to no more drifting movies that look all the same.

I like lapper better than Airio for this purpose

It's a shame that nobody wants to organize championships anymore... I raced in a couple of races based in your gcomp platform, but never a whole championship, mainly because I didn't like the combos chosen all that much, or didn't have the motivation.

I did the Spanish translation (which could use some fixes) and I know there's a lot of work in this. Maybe the whole system was too complex, like having to register for every single championship instead of registering just once to a master platform and then manage all championships from within it.

I've been wanting to organize a couple af championships for a long time, but I never find the time to do it. Anyway, I think that this gcomp platform wouldn't suit my specific needs.

Loved the interactivity between gcomp and lfslapper though ;-) Your average lap time pre-qualifying system was a nice touch.

Quote from oldnavy :

It will open today 8 pm and close on Monday 8 pm

But will it open today for pre-qualy or just for practice? If it's pre-qualy I might do my first laps. In the first post says that the server is open 5 days before the event, but pre-qualy starts 3 days before the event. I don't get the point of that.