Quote from dekojester :

PATIENCE

No speak english

If this turns out to be well managed this will be fantastic

Quote from JCTK :

a badly prepared, badly setup car driven by a crap driver. Life couldn't get much tougher than that. But that was ridiculously slow and dangerous.

But since she's a female, it would be easier for her to find sponsors, so we might get to see her for a few more years yet.

I dont know how badly the car was setup... I mean Alex Lloyd (her teammate) has an almost decent (but unreliable) car. Considering that they are from the same team I'd say that Milka does have a lot of support. I mean Lloyd finished 4th in the Indy 500 when Milka flat out failed to qualify. That says something really....

I also hate the fact that Robert Doornbos was kicked from Indy when this is Milka's third season.....She apparently has CITGO on a leash...

Last edited by lizardfolk, Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:16.

Epic Racing Oval International

Round 5:
Car #00 Juen-Jen Wang

Milka Duno needs to GTFO NOW. Did anyone see her almost take out Will Power on like lap 21? She was also lapped AGAIN just 10 laps later. She is not just slow, but dangerous as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC4YAs2QqSs#t=2m59s

That was absolutely ridiculous. Both Power and Andretti did a fantastic job to avoid her.

Quote from lizardfolk :

Epic Racing Oval International #00

Updated skin. The skin should now follow LFSCART Light regulation (please let me know if it still doesnt)

I'm currently looking into running a WTCC style league with the TBOs on slicks. If you can update the slicks mod that would be greatly appreciated

Epic Racing Oval International #00

Last edited by lizardfolk, Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:34.

Team Name: Epic Racing Oval International
Team Manager: Juen-Jen Wang / lizardfolk
Entered Cars: 1
Starting numbers for the cars: 00
License Applications for the team:
Juen-Jen Wang / lizardfolk / Male / TWN

Last edited by lizardfolk, Wed, 23 Jun 2010 03:13.

Thanks amp88, glad to see that iRacing has got V8 Supercars right But I'm also assuming that because of Project Blueprint...there isn't much of a difference between the Ford and Holden? i.e. a Holden Commodore in iRacing wouldnt handle differently than the Ford Falcon they have right now?

I did a few laps with it on leguna seca. The car feels very responsive and really rewards the smooth driver. I've noticed that it is a bit wheel spin happy tho as it gets loose on the s/f bend.

Idk if that's normal for a touring car but the v8 supers are top tier cars (atleast in tc categories)

Could also be my set too (or lack thereof). I'm driving with defaults

Decided to buy a year after about a few months of waiting. I always seem to drive much better and safer in iRacing where as I'm a complete sato at LFS. :/. Going to see if I can reach A asap and try out some new cars that I bought but didn't get a chance to use due to my trial running out

I'm excited about the v8 supercar. What do you guys think of it?

Did anyone watch the Croft race? I'm not sure what to think of Sheddon giving Collard "half a car" and pushing him on the grass. That definitely made a difference on Collard's momentum.....

Quote from Cornys :

That was sort of stupid really.. He didn't even have to worry about fuel at that moment. It was his race to lose though it would seem.

I know...right? That was the worst way to throw away a race. That would have been worse than an legitimate mechanical problem. Atleast with the mechanical problem there's nothing you can really do.....but stalling the car by trying to save fuel when you dont need to is just throwing away your own race.

I feel so sorry for Marcos...I'd probably fire the crew chief.

Quote from Cornys :

I guess that's what you get for being within 100 feet of Brad Kesolowski (or however that is spelled). He'll wreck you just for the heck of it.

Keselowski But yeah, Brad's a punk. Not only that, he's also an idiot. Which is a fairly dangerous combination. I also loved how he tried to make up for a bad car by smashing into people. He completely clobbered into Robbie Gordon which I found hilarious and he gave Ekstrom no room when Ekstrom gave him plenty.

Atleast Ekstrom's contact didnt completely destroy his car unlike when Montoya took out Logano.

Mark Martin ended up 14th despite having a sub-par car as it would appear. Something is wrong with that group, but he still gained a position in championship points to move him off of the bubble.

Quote from PMD9409 :

Gordon sure was bumper happy, and a good run for Robby there as well. Anyone else see Jan with a 12th place finish? Thats awesome for his debut in the car IMO.

I'm glad that he admit he lost his cool

Jan wasn't as strong as Ekstrom, Said or Ambrose. But he certainly kept his head together despite cars going three wide and slamming into each other. Even if Jan was no where in the top 10, he ran a solid and impressive race nonetheless imho.

Very happy with my own result. Gave my two ER teammates a heart attack as I decided to throw away my P8 to see if I can jump a row or two. Everything that went wrong for the first 2 attempts did. Went slower on my first attempt and dropped to 13th. Second attempt....timed out on the second lap. Final attempt...it's go or go home from here....went fastest and into P5.

Mid position of row 2. Very excited for this weekend. Good luck everyone

NOOOOOO! WTF WHY DID AMBROSE STALL? HE WAS SO FCKING CLOSE WTF!!!!!!!!

*sob*

Also, poor luck for Ekstrom and Papis getting taken out. But atleast Ekstrom rallied back to 21st while Papis retired hope he can still stay in nascar next season but we'll see if anything can happen in the last part of the season. Fantastic drive by Jan Magnussen and Boris Said tho. But FCKINH HELL AMBROSE

*sob*

Quote from Cornys :

It will deffinitly be a tough transition to that, as well as with the change of racing style from foreign motorsports. I'm not the most familiar with foreign motorsports, but it seems like NASCAR is a lot more of a contact event. I may be wrong here though.

Yeah well Ekstrom has said that the NASCAR CoT is a very wheel spin happy machine. I mean it's going to be rough coming from DTM as DTM has so much more downforce than the stock car due to the millions of wings. Plus (according to Ekstrom) you can be very aggressive with the throttle in the DTM car, and NASCAR fans know that this isn't the case at all with the stock cars.

This also makes DTM much more fragile of a car. (and thus the series is much less prone to contact). So yeah, your speculation on Ekstrom's situation is fairly correct. However, if Ekstrom had come from WTCC or especially BTCC and V8 Supercar, then hard contact/rubbing wouldn't be so alien

Quote from z-ro 8 :

what? Lol
Um, first I never said you didn't have the right to protest

Actually yes you did. And I quote "you of all people should protest"

Quote from havoc on msn :

having room under Gasunias and knowing he isn't going to come down and wreck me again are two different things. i think it's pretty ****ing rediculous that you of all people would report an incident. wtf lizard.

Quote from me replying :

If Gasiunas didnt give you room. That's his fault now isnt it? If you didnt even attempt to give room...that's your fault. You had me in your mirrors way before the kink. And you knew, I was trying to catch the 51 that's right ahead of you. But you decided to block very late. That's your fault kev

(so based on that you admit that you have room enough to let me by? It would have been close....very close...but the room was still there nonetheless.)

Quote from z-ro 8 :

Second, you were the one that brought up the FM drafting video, to which I said I didn't give two shits about.

Because you told me that it is never good to pass at the kink in any circumstance. I'm just showing the video to say that I dont think that's the case.

Quote from z-ro 8 :

Third, I did tell you I thought it was kinda bs that u report me for one mistake,
after asking me for setup help, especially when you've made multiple problems in these sessions.

I asked deko to look at that via report. That was a pretty major incident and I would like to present my case. You've came down on me before havoc. I didnt report you for every single little incident that we've had before you know.....and excuse me what? multiple problems in sessions? I was in session 16. A caution free session. You are constantly using my history against me despite what the current circumstances are.

Quote from Seb66 :

Thought I'd just mention how shit your set was

Yes, it's still a slow in drafts. But it's atleast much better than the Speedweeks set was. I'm not sliding all over the place

Quote from major_syphillis :

Some ppl need to realize that this is a game, meant to be fun. Not to ban ppl from the event or next years based on something that happened during practice that wasn't meant to be intentional. Someppl take this "game" too far.

I never called for havoc's ban. My report just stated things from my perspective. That's it. It wasnt heated, it wasnt angry. I dont care for havoc to get banned, I wanted light on the incident. Why is that so despicable?

Quote from z-ro 8 :

But I do know when to listen to the voice of experience, and that mostly comes from FM.
I've spent all of these sessions moving around testing peoples skills, and there are few not in FM that I know I can trust.

Have I ever talked back to you before this? I've minded every one of your advice/criticism that you cared to give. But I found your reaction on MSN utterly uncalled for. If you wanted me to remove my protest calmly discuss the incident with me! Dont open up with a rash amount of personal insults. I saw that 3 cars could possibly fit in that kink, so I went for it. How many other people have done the same thing (to me) in that straight as well???!!! I didnt see why I was berated about this as if I had intentionally taken someone out. Even though I will defend my position, I'm open to the idea that I was wrong and being even slightly impatient in that situation is wrong. But personal attacks is still very much uncalled for. I haven't said a WORD against you havoc before this. You threw the first stone, keep that in mind.

Last edited by lizardfolk, Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:41.

Quote from mk1golf :

Ok , just watched the replay , thx pik_d ,now i've finished lmao , i just have to ask what your problem is ? is it me or is it FM , because to me it seems such a angry rant , for such a small incident , an incident that didn't put you or anyone else out , don't think you even lost postion , not to me anyway, yet only 25 seconds later at timecode: 7:35.77 car 95 put you into the wall ( and he was at fault , chasing my draft and not giving you room) causing you to loose the pack , but i don't see any complaint of that , so thats why i ask is it me or FM or both ? Also it dosen't matter if there are 20 FM on track , or just me , i drive my race as i see fit (within the rules,i try anyway),so no real need to attack the team if your pissed with me , is there ?


Just watched some more of the replay , interesting lap 25 , you cause carnage on the start staight (by the way finishing my team mates race), and come on here having a go at us , hhmmm i can only imagine your on some very strong drugs.........

First of all. That message was actually more for havoc. I dont have any arguments with FM

The minute I posted my protest havoc immediately ranted angrily at me on MSN. Claiming that I "had no right to post a protest" among other personal attacks.

Hey, know what? From my perspective it looked like I could have made it when havoc didnt move down until close to the kink. I thought I could make it and grab the 51's draft before havoc and continue my leapfrogging. It didnt happen. Could I have been more patient? Sure, yes. I could have. But I was there with a new set and I wanted to push as hard as I could to see how well my car can drive in traffic (if it will get loose, if it will lose the draft easily, etc). I was there to test the absolute limits of my set (or how well i could drive it). There are many times where I did left off too, but I wanted to get to the front of the pack asap because track position is important with this new restart system (cause i suck at stick with people with this new restart system. Every single restart I had been in I always lost the cars in front of me). I made a small error in judgment. I'm sorry...jez.

I calmly tried to explain my situation to havoc on msn, and he started using FM as an example of how much of a lowly racer that I am and how the incident with mk1 was then inherently my fault.

Hey...know what? People have made it through with less space in that kink. I often times found other people diving on the inside of me as well. I thought the cars in front would have given more space. But they didnt. If deko and the admins would see that I'm at fault. Sure fine. I'll take the responsibility. But havoc's response on MSN was uncalled for.

Again, the message wasnt directed at mk or FM in general. More for havoc (and this was before deko decided that I was more at fault than havoc.)

Last edited by lizardfolk, Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:45.

Why would the slicks mod be illegal? I mean, if it doesnt have license protection then it still wouldnt be that big of a deal? It wont make any S1 or S2 cars available to demo users.

Quote from dekojester :

On Warmup 2, you MUST take the normal line

Some clarification....does this mean that we cant go wide in T3? Technically that's not tyre warming so is that allowed? Or is the "normal line" absolute?

Quote from dekojester :

It is determined that Car 79 caused the avoidable incident by making a move into the kink at a late time for either of the ahead cars to see it. The better decision from Car 79 would have been to back out and wait until turn 1 to make an overtake.

I would protest, but it's only a warning so I'm not going to try to defend myself any further. But....just so I understand where the admins will stand on these kinds of incidents:

Clarification (NOT A PROTEST):

Similar incident on lap 9.
Timecode 7:12.91.
Was car #777 or me in the wrong for that?

Excuse me, I do know that there's a slickmod available for patch Z. But I was wondering if there's a version for Z28? And if not could a modder please update it (or create a separate slick mod) for Z28?

Protest removed:

Wanted kev to know that it was his fault. Didnt really give an apology (except a really sarcastic one), but it was his fault and I wanted his admission. That's all

EDIT: I would like to say one thing. Being in FM or an "oval elite" doesnt give you the right to do w/e the f*ck you want. If you hold the noobs or "non oval people" to such a high standard if they make mistakes, then dont bitch if you get harshly bashed for making the same mistake. If you want to create this elitist atmosphere on the oval then you can bet on the fact that people hold you to the same strict standard that you set for everyone else.

Last edited by lizardfolk, Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:36.