<kneejerkreaction> SSSGOKU, Is it true that you've been around since 2003? Really ? Wow. And Nobody's ever slapped you around with a Grammar or Spelling book? People with your level of poor literacy embarass me, because as an American you reflect poorly on other Americans.</kneejerkreaction>

At this point I just want to appologize to the world at large. Would it KILL people to TRY to sound like they attended school? We spend millions of dollars a year on schools, only to turn out retards like this. I watched all my classmates in school, and couldn't beleive the amount of money that got wasted on them.

nah, he's capitalizing on people's cheapness. people will sometimes buy something just because it is discounted.

"Oh My God!! 5% off!!! Buying that RIGHT NOW"

and by the way, sometimes you will find that lowering the price of your product actually increases your profit, by inreasing sales in a parger proportion than your price decreased by.

Quote from Scawen :

P.S. If anyone can name any driving games or simulators that don't support dual axes, please let us know, so we can try to understand why Logitech believe this is the best default option. Personally I can't even understand why combined axis is even offered as an option at all, but then I don't know their entire target market of supported games.

trackmania

in the wise words of Peter Griffen:

"Friggin Sweet"

i call this setup.... "hard Track"

if autohotkey can accept network packets, why not use outguage to be more accurate?

its a cool project, even if i wouldnt use it personally. If i ever get to build the LFS coin-op machine i want to (just to see what people think of it in public) i might use something like this to simulate a "manu-matic" transmition, like the one on a pontiac G-6, which if you dotn shift, will shift for you (the automatic has a "manual mode" which just lets you play with the gears a little, but gives you no more performance or control really)

amusing, very very amusing. I concidered something similar as a joke, borrowing a system from wolfpack audio, running a cable from a laptop to make it look like the laptop is hooked up to the engine, and running the daylights out of a GTR engine

Um, as one of the ones involved in the starting of this thread... I'd just ike to highlight the fact the title. Key in this is the word "Possibility", meaning it's possible not concrete.

Months ago, my team sent an email to the devs asking if it was OK to seek out new content, pending that it was THIER decision as to whether the new content would be used. DP1 is a lead, not a guarantee. The thread was put here to guage community support for the vehicle.

I personally havent made any asumptions on this, It's just a possibility.
it woulod be REALLY cool, but it may or may not happen

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pfff, citroen is testing it's rally cars in the european rallycross championship BEFORE they use them in rallying (WRC). i don't think there are more sophisticated and faster rally cars out there than the ones they use in rallycross.

pls don't compare that amateur driving you call rallycross in north america with real (professional) rallycross.

petter solberg learned how to drive fast racing rallycross.

do i sense a little hostility?

+1 gotta have my team colors

girly or nto they make for excellent track cars

*snip* seemes i missed the very last post in my sleep deprivation, which makes my post redundant and un-neccisary.

admin/mod, feel free to delete this post, or not, doesnt matter to me.

Guess that kills my team's slickmod server.... that was quitea lot of fun to run slick shod GTi's around the arena courses

*Snicker* If it's possible to texture in solidworks, I'd like to try to do a ZWR livery for it, it mgiht help with marketting later j/k

Keep in mind that one of the shining points of LFS is that it's beninner friendly. I can't think of anything more frustrating to a beginner than making a simple mistake and ending up with a car you cant drive anymore even back to the pits for repair.
moare accurate damage would be nice, but it really wouldnt accomplish too much if the car was in such a state that it could no longer at least be limped.

So i propose a compromise, realistic, but limited damage.

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Sure does Even without PIR, there is of course certainly the potential to fine tune the dp1 in game based on the GPS data, but having a real car and track would be fantastic for LFS, and hopefully useful for you.

As for timeline for the dp1 project, I think this can be compared to Live For Speed, as they're pretty similar in a few ways. LFS and dp1 are both an attempt to build something better than what is currently out there, by an individual/small group with their first product in this area, learning a lot as they go, and appearing to be pretty successful so far on a relatively low budget compared to the big guys. When people ask why things are taking so long in LFS, we're quick to say, hey, there's only one guy working on coding, etc, and obviously it's the same for the dp1! And this isn't a full-time thing for Dennis either...

Because they're so similar in concept, I have always thought that LFS and the dp1 would be a great match, and it turned out two of us got in touch with Dennis on the same week with the same idea!

Yeah, it's great stuff. and It's quite exhilarating to see someting come of an email. (I've written to a few american race car companies as well, but no response.)

The small companies with a lot to gain from popularizing thier vehicles, and enthusiasm for thier craft seem most apt to allowing the car to be reproduced in the sim world.

I would assume (ub abswer toa previous user's question) that the louvers were integrated on the prototype design and will be replaceable on the production models. I could be wrong though as the lines areand therefore aero is cleaner with the integratred parts


(forgive horrid typos its about 6am, and ive been up since 10 am yesterday

hmmmm..... accurately reproduced DP1 + accurately produced PIR + telemetry = posibility for benchmarking lfs direct to real data

IE use the control input telemetry and compare the results (compare the gloads from the real car, and the g-loads from outsim)

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It is cancelled out by the downforce.

I can second that. What you see in the Forces View are Vectors, which are the Net force in a certain direction. 1G left and 2G's right would produce a single vector indicating 1G to the right, as that is the effective force in that direction. You see lateral and acceleration vectors as well because these come from different sources and are forces of thier own, in thier own direction.

Support a local Raceway? I'm there. What people don't realise in some areas is that a legitimate raceway like PIR is the best way to fight street racing: Provide a legal outlet. From what I hear the track fees are to high to be effective though. If there had been a road-course anywhere near Corpus Christi most of the motorsports club I was part of would have raced there instead of the streets.

If PIR's a city park, getting support shouldnt be hard at all. This is especially true in the preservation aspect, since once you put something on the internet you can never kill it. I've been concidering approaching Mid Ohio Sports Car Course for the same reason.

Personally i wouldnt mind seeing an "FZ Cup" version for the FZ50 and and new FZ additions, similar to the carrera cup. a slight upgrade to the FZ50 but not outrageous like the GTR version. More like a Sportsman class.

wing, diffuser and brakes would probably be the main upgrades, complimented by a rather spartan interior for reduced weight.

Elandor, that's what the placeable mounds are for, to make your own elevation changes

Well, Dennis.. I think the first step in getting PIR would be to approach the management of PIR. Kind of like we approached you. As the others said though, S3 is a ways off still. Who knows though, we got the BMW-Sauber F1.06 in the middle of S2 development.

To be completely honest, when joen and I started this thread, I didn't expect such a warm welcome for the car, but once again this community has managed to impress me.

(PS, have you got your own CFD program or do you use someone elses?)

Well, i do have one more thing to add to this.

Budget: The larger the number of supporteres the less hard it becomes to raise the money. That's why Fund Raisers exist. If we have to we can sell candy bars

the SCCA sure like to race Legends at Mid-Ohio and other raceways a lot for it being an oval only car

Actually, let me see if any of my contacts are willing to help. dragster and stock car experience comes itno play here, becquse we have mentioned tubular frames, and that's probably the way to go for a team with limited funding and facilities