I'm all for more cars to compete in the class. K-Cars are a blast to drive and even teach you a lot about vehicle dynamics before putting you in a vehicle that can get you into some REAL trouble.
A cappucino loolalike and a honda Beat lookalike woud be great competitiors.
Also a higher grade uf1000 that pust in lap times on par with the XFG and XRG, maybe the UF1300?
A cappucino loolalike and a honda Beat lookalike woud be great competitiors.
Also a higher grade uf1000 that pust in lap times on par with the XFG and XRG, maybe the UF1300?
The area where the straight line is drawn on the map across the oval to the infield isnt very steep actually. that's just the start of the banking,
I'm not against new things. I just don't see the point of a course that would be no challenge to drive. Lower speed corners equate to passing opportunities in the downforce cars. Braking Zones = Passing opportunity. Acceleration out of a corner is a passing opportunity.
Slow corners make for good racing.
Slow corners make for good racing.
Glad we made it this far, there were many times over the last year we thought we weren't going to make it.
I'd take a Complex String clone over this anyday
If it's as simple as eating a hot dog, go win a few races against the FM crew. Till then, shut your gob, you're making yourself look bad, and more than likely pissing off Iceman.
On second thought, keep shoving your boot in your mouth, and when youre done with yours I'll loan you mine. It would be great to have Mike drivng for me again.
On second thought, keep shoving your boot in your mouth, and when youre done with yours I'll loan you mine. It would be great to have Mike drivng for me again.
Running with a joke isn't neccisarily a statement of superiority you know.
Anyway, I don't get to really race as often as I would like anymore.
Anyway, I don't get to really race as often as I would like anymore.
Apparently I know more about LFS than Motordirex
Funny what different people think is a long way away. I drive nearly 30 miles to work every day so 120 miles for an event wouldn't bother me a bit. Too bad I'm not in the UK.
anyone notice that if you make a new setup, you're suddenly on the "Brakes" tab?
[quote=duke_toaster;404107][quote=KeiichiRX7;402358]the laptimes HAVE dropped a lot in testing, but the racing is more competitive.
There are some rules other than different engines - the GT300 cars actually have to be remotely like the road cars, you could probably put a Toyota body on a Nissan and no-one would be any the wiser.
Keiichi, how do these cars relate performancewise to the XFR and UFR? A league with restricted FXR and XRR, with the UFR and XFR as one class - if the balancing was right - would be good. It would loosely resemble the BTCC, with some bigger cars (The FXR would be a little like the Vectra, the XRR like the 3 series) and some smaller ones like the Civics and Rick Kerry's BMW 120d which in the right hands and prepared properly would be as good as the 320si but it's badly prepared.
The bigger cars would be better on the faster tracks, but put them somewhere twisty the little cars would shine. Like the days in the BTCC where there were Minis that got past Detroit's finest on the turns only to get gobbled up on the straights (ad infinium).
I have spotted a potential problem with ballasting the FZR - surely the extra weight could be stuck at the front to solve it's weight distribution problem.
Another thought. The MRT has an air restrictor (FSAE rules), would it be possible at some point to take that out? It would get 260 HP IIRC.[/quote]
Actually by JGTC rules the basic engine (pre tuning the hell out of it) has to hail from the same manufacturer as the unibody. Thus Nissan could build a skyline that sports the big nasty V8 from the Titan, but not one with an old supra engine.
We actualy tried dropping the GTR's down to the level of the CGTR's, but it turns out with the big downforce and wider tires that the cornering speeds of the GTR's are a bit faster, while with similar lap times the compact GTR's tend to pull away on the straights.
There are some rules other than different engines - the GT300 cars actually have to be remotely like the road cars, you could probably put a Toyota body on a Nissan and no-one would be any the wiser.
Keiichi, how do these cars relate performancewise to the XFR and UFR? A league with restricted FXR and XRR, with the UFR and XFR as one class - if the balancing was right - would be good. It would loosely resemble the BTCC, with some bigger cars (The FXR would be a little like the Vectra, the XRR like the 3 series) and some smaller ones like the Civics and Rick Kerry's BMW 120d which in the right hands and prepared properly would be as good as the 320si but it's badly prepared.
The bigger cars would be better on the faster tracks, but put them somewhere twisty the little cars would shine. Like the days in the BTCC where there were Minis that got past Detroit's finest on the turns only to get gobbled up on the straights (ad infinium).
I have spotted a potential problem with ballasting the FZR - surely the extra weight could be stuck at the front to solve it's weight distribution problem.
Another thought. The MRT has an air restrictor (FSAE rules), would it be possible at some point to take that out? It would get 260 HP IIRC.[/quote]
Actually by JGTC rules the basic engine (pre tuning the hell out of it) has to hail from the same manufacturer as the unibody. Thus Nissan could build a skyline that sports the big nasty V8 from the Titan, but not one with an old supra engine.
We actualy tried dropping the GTR's down to the level of the CGTR's, but it turns out with the big downforce and wider tires that the cornering speeds of the GTR's are a bit faster, while with similar lap times the compact GTR's tend to pull away on the straights.
Ooh, Ovals take no talent? Ask your own team mate Iceman31X about that. Like any other type of course, Ovals are easy to make it around. That's a fact. Being FAST around them is totally different, like any other course.
I said it's retarded because none of the current layouts shoul dbe removed, like youre asking them to do. Slow corners make the racing better
What is it with people and thier hatred of low speed corners?
AndroidXP's hit the nail on the head. In reality there re in fact several different classes of GT cars. with the restrictions i've introduced, these 3 cars have been placed in a lower class, and could potentially be run alongside thier unrestricted counterparts in a dual class GT series.
A quick little list of sellectable classes in the setup menu would be quite nice for quickly changing a car between spec sets, and classifying them correctly. For instance to apply the correct restrictors and ballast for the GT300 class ive devised you woudl simply swith the class from GTR to GT300 in the same way you take the top off in a UF1
A quick little list of sellectable classes in the setup menu would be quite nice for quickly changing a car between spec sets, and classifying them correctly. For instance to apply the correct restrictors and ballast for the GT300 class ive devised you woudl simply swith the class from GTR to GT300 in the same way you take the top off in a UF1
You know, according to teh developers, LFS is supposed to eventually encompass all forms of motorsport. Stock cars are going to happen eventually.
wow... that's kinda retarded...
Stock cars at road courses is suprisingly common actually. Some times a touring car sanctioning body will invite some of the smaller stock car groups out to race with them.
the laptimes HAVE dropped a lot in testing, but the racing is more competitive.
It's a bit of a trade off really i suppose. When the next patch goes official i want to run a league with the 2 classes, the GTR's and thier limited counterparts (much like the JGTC has GT500 and GT300). With the ballast system we played with the racing got even more intense, with the success ballast handicapping the faster drivers.
In the end you end up with just another racing class, slower, but very very competitive.
It's a bit of a trade off really i suppose. When the next patch goes official i want to run a league with the 2 classes, the GTR's and thier limited counterparts (much like the JGTC has GT500 and GT300). With the ballast system we played with the racing got even more intense, with the success ballast handicapping the faster drivers.
In the end you end up with just another racing class, slower, but very very competitive.
Just a note from playing around with balancing for a slower class in my own server.
Maybe add a class list in the info tab, so the cars be be limited for different classes and classified accordingly.
For instance a class ive been toying with is GT300
each of the GTR's has been limited with the current ballast + an intake restrictor. The racing has become very very very competitive.
the total restrictions are:
FXR 36% intake restrictor, no ballast
XRR 36% intake restrictor, 50KG ballast (master server assigned minimum)
FZR 29% intake restrictor, 100KG ballast (master server assigned minimum)
racing is close and frenzied, cars gaining and losing in various sections, but no car with an obvious advantage over the others in short races.
Maybe add a class list in the info tab, so the cars be be limited for different classes and classified accordingly.
For instance a class ive been toying with is GT300
each of the GTR's has been limited with the current ballast + an intake restrictor. The racing has become very very very competitive.
the total restrictions are:
FXR 36% intake restrictor, no ballast
XRR 36% intake restrictor, 50KG ballast (master server assigned minimum)
FZR 29% intake restrictor, 100KG ballast (master server assigned minimum)
racing is close and frenzied, cars gaining and losing in various sections, but no car with an obvious advantage over the others in short races.
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