wow...... so many complainers about roll cages.

Adding a roll cage doesn't make the car not a road car. It's still not a race prepped car, i just has the safety features required to race.

In racing you either follow the rules, or you don't get on the track. If it comes down to mass and distribution differences, here's what a marshall will tell you: You'll either cage it and like it, or you'll take it home.

okay, done enough reading.

Live for speed is a video game. ipso facto. It falls in the simulation sub-genre, but it is in fact still a game.

In order for a game to be successful there is a basic criteria it must meet. It must be fun. When it becomes a chore to play, it will no longer be a game, and nobody will want to play.

The realistic physics make it fun. The close racing makes it fun. The availability of information to learn from makes it fun. In fact just learning the "rules" of the game is in itself fun and rewarding.

If you don't like Scavier's approach to developing thier game, you're welcome to go off and go make an rFactor mod, or start programming your own. When you've made it the way YOU (realism nazi's, yes all 6 of you) want it, try to market it. I'm sure that once you do so, very few will be willing to bother with your game as it would be a CHORE.

Last edited by KeiichiRX7, Sun 21 Oct 2007, 21:36.

Well, it would certainly get it's ass handed to it by an F1 car of just about any year after the introduction of downforce.

however it would deffinitely be an interesting drive in LFS combining masive power with an unusual chassis. I dare say many would welcome the challenge

Power wise the Espace F1 could have beat out the BF1. It was running the old V10 spec engines.

While I agree that a huge section of highway would be boring as hell, one must not overlook the possibility of the highway section only carying on till the next major exit, or using a set of high speed curves on the highway.

some of the curves on the freeway on my morning trip home (with next to nobody on the road) can be quite interesting at 110 mph

So youre too lazy to adjust your gears when you have the option?

actually i dont think they care what you do with outguage.
but hey

Quote from Shotglass :

outgauge is the interface that gives info like rpm and gas pedal position
i think hes talking about a car sound remixer type application with your engine sim to create the sound

Precisely, your engine sim produces quite a good sound, and I wonder how well it would work taking data from LFS

Todd, any chance we could get these simulations hooked up to OutGuage?

That would be pretty cool

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

Oh come on.. I dont like this Username too.

oh btw.. look at your own

Hmmmm You must be refering to the "Keiichi" part of my nick, and inferring a reference to Tsuchiya. A common mistake actually, but it's a tip of the hat to Keiichi Morisato from AA Megami-sama, a rather popular anime by Fujishima.

As for the RX7 part, who doesn't like art in motion? Besides I was workon on ressurecting an old FB for a few months. Sadly money ran out before just after I got the engine running.

Quote from Primoz :

I think there shouldn't be. And it would be a nice addition for Supra lovers but not for everybody else... If you want more GTRs, make a FZ50 Turbo and make a GTR version out of that. If you want JGTC cars, i'd prefer the Skyline (FXR is quite simmilar, appart from the engine) or the NSX. The latter would be better since it's mid engined and that's what we need mostly now - a mid engined GTR. But yeah, 700ish BHP AWD FZ50 turbo, that's the real deal!

EDIT: and i don't see a single racing supra on that site. Just Orido's RS*R drift car. JGTC Supras are much different. For one, they are limited to 500 bhp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra#JGTC.2FSuper_GT

Don't know what youre smoking but the JGTC Skylines are FR layout. As for comparing a JGTC Supra and an FZ50 GTR.... Engines at the wrong end. To be honest We coudl stand another Front engine Rear drive GTR, with a naturally aspirated engine. We could also use a Mid Engine GTR for sure, but lets be intelligent enough to stop slagging off cars just because of where they come from.

Quote :

Make your Rice request's when the future is near us (S3)

Says the person who takes thier name from Initial D.

Quote :

In this case it's not depending on the mark, it's just that Supra's are rice. Tell me, how many highly tuned drag cars are japanese? How many of them are Supras? Yep, more or less every one of them. It's also a big rice car for the wealthy people, simmilar to the Civic for the one that don't have as much money. How many civics do you see with body kits, wings, different wheels, etc.? Well, about half of them all for me. Maybe i just don't see the normal ones but mostly they are the new ones (which is too costly for the ricers anyway).

EDIT: Oh and yes, an M3 please :>

For you I suggest watching the following episode of VOD cars, In which a properly prepared Civic CRX dusts a Lamborghini Galardo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uG1roCjcca0

Last edited by KeiichiRX7, Thu 4 Oct 2007, 23:05.

Quote from Forbin :

Huh? The only car that has an intake restriction set for the global handicaps is the FOX, which only goes up to 11 lbs of boost. AFAIK, this does not affect the spool time.

As a matter of fact, the FXR is the only car in the GTR class without any global handicaps at all.

EDIT: So... if all the GT2 cars have the same intake restriction and it doesn't affect spool time*, what's the problem?

*if anything it's reduced because you can stay on the throttle more mid-corner

They Don't have all the same restrictors. The turbocharged require more restriction, as they are forced induction

Quote from DarinSRT :

Funny how a post can generate so many others in so many driections.

To go into more detail on the MOE event.. I never put down MOE for allowing shift p.. Just pointed it out.. If you want my honest opinion of it though.. That takes away from the endruance aspect of it.. You flip a car or get it stuck in rF and you're done which in my opinion stops some people from driving over their head.. I had a good time for the most part and we're going to report on it..

Now.. a little more on my experience.. I became a member of the team I rean with a week ago. Was I unprepared for a 12 hour event.. Heck yes I was.. On top of that I was out of town from Tuesday thru Thrusday.. I was just commenting on it from my perspective..

Never claimed to be an expert on LFS and we'd love to have an official LFS correspondant.. Funny thing is.. I get all these people yelling at me for misreprestinging LFS (which by the way we are going to correct the Intel tour mistake on air) .. but I get no one stepping up to become the SRT / LFS rep. Help us out and we make sure to represent the community correctly..

You have to remember though.. Most of you are biased towards LFS so take things I say with a grain of salt. Just my opinion and yes I have a lot of people listening to me, but, I do my best to be objective, honest and tell my story from my perspective..

To the guy that said "don't think that Bawbag is the only one".. lol.. Believe me I know of lots of other really fast guys.. Just like over in my crowd.. Greger is the man.. but.. There's lots of guys that are pretty close. So.. I just used his name cause it came to mind.

And to Becky.. hehe.. If I told you the hurdles we went through to provide that coverage, you would understand why it is the way it is. We know it's raw, but we are very limited and have done all of that on a shoestring budget. You should see some of the first we did.. We're doing it with what rFactor has to offer, media encoder and a fat pipe.

You mention all of us coming together.. I'd love that.. Over in our world, no one shares technology secrets fearing that someone will out do them or try to take their business.. Flog TV was created only to provide coverage of our events.. We never really intended it for general spectators.. But.. After we started we got some great feedback about how we handled ourselves in the booth and that actually spawned SRT..

So that being said.. How is the quality of SRT compared to our broadcasts ? Lots better huh ?? Thats because we've put a lot more time and energy into it and we're not limited to rFactor short comings , media encoders and we're not in competition with anyone which means that everyone is willing to offer help and suggestions. We flew completely blind putting up the FLOG stuff. I think we did an ok job..

Lastly.. Becky, we would love for you to come over and help us put together the ultimate broadcast and vice versa.. I would love to be part of one of your shows as a broadcaster or doing behind the scenes stuff..You put it out there.. so lets do it !

I'll step up if you want, since ya already know me

Thats Not A Sedan!

I'll give that a go.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Well, a racing car is pretty special equipment.


As for pitspotters, the only racing that uses them are ovals, and ovals are mostly American. I'd love to be able to say it's because American drivers are useless, and that all other nationalities manage just fine without them, but I'd get flamed if I said it. Oh...

I'd just like to take a moment to invite Mr Cliffe to go screw himself(1)

Ok that taken care of, you know damn well what I mean. In a real car you have your full field of view(2), and if ya want to look left, you simply do so to your heart's content. There's no ackward mid corner button pressing, or requirment of additional equipment. Chances are unless you have the vision of the average trout you can still see whats ahead out of the corner of your eye, well enough to reflexively look forward again at least should anything sudden happen (not that you should be looking away from your direction of travel for extended periods anyway).

(1)I can think of a certain Ex Formula 1 driver with a few GP wins under his belt that is getting his ass handed to him in an American series. He's even got spotters!
More seriously though, what is your deal with American drivers? Did you have some kind of childhood shattering experience? One touch you in a no-no spot when you were a kid?
(2)In LFS, your view angle is significantly less (just a reality of having a monitor in front of you) even with FOV set at 120 (humans have nearly 180, not quite though).

Last edited by KeiichiRX7, Mon 24 Sep 2007, 10:20. Reason : Mr Cliffe seems more appropriate for an arrogant twat

Quote from haelje :

i only got this in my ATI Catalyst Control Center
version 7.9
OS: Vista 64bit

"Extend Main Onto Monitor"

because there isn't proper clutch or engine simulation yet. Without these two things it would go from "why can7 1 st4llzor teh car!?!" to "*explative* (insert engine or clutch) made me stall on teh grid! I hate you scavier!"

When it's ready they will have it

I'll try to screenshot the results I get, i dont think it likes ATI

Quote from herki :

We already have Fern Bay Club, so that leaves us with the following possiblities: Diamond, Spades and Heart. Fern Bay Heart would be great

Nice choice of naming schemes

The user that made the video however was using the CSR program, basicly an external sound engine for LFS that works via outguage

Uh, that would be a no go sir. It started responding, BUT seems to show my entire spanned monitor as the extreme left or right monitor.

tried to fraps some video of this behavior for you, but it didnt like it.

ah, the game minimizes when my dashboard software loads up, so i need to switch resolutions back and forth to make it work?

nothing changes when i press M.

Is it the way youre getting the Key?
Is it my 3monitor (2x on AGP 1X on pci) setup? I disabled the 3rd monitor, so that shouldnt be it.

I think I did all that stuff, but I'll have another go of it by the book

EDIT: no good, pressing M just doesnt do anything.

Last edited by KeiichiRX7, Thu 13 Sep 2007, 10:42.