after reviewing all racing incedents and race-reports. i think i can close race 1 reports on monday morning and give out the standings at monday evening. you can see the race-statistics (which also contain most of the bonus points on the website already. in total it looks like this, without any penalty at the moment:

so this is unofficial:
Points Driver
1st____195___#8 | Rawex
2nd____180___#38 [FPR]Yankman
3rd____170___#11 [HR] SuLLy
4th____170___#42 Strokes>UK<
5th____165___#2 Becky Rose
6th____156___#9 [FM]^Ketil
7th____155___#55 Adonis BotP
8th____144___#74 Moo.Danny
9th____143___#5 GWADanny
10th___142___#455 Fin[UK]
11th___130___#07 [FM]^KeNi
12th___127___#79 J.B. BotP
13th___124___#18 [FM]Fischfix
14th___123___#14 [HR] HogaMan
15th___121___#50 TKS||Branislav
16th___117___#66 G.Gab BotP
17th___115___#3 bo duke
18th___114___#22 [FM]Byrney
19th___106___#999 [PWRL]james12s
20th___103___#13 DFH| LONT
21nd___100___#007Jack.McIntyre



included bonus:
Fastest Laptim: +5pts. for #11
Pole Position: +5 pts. for #8
Leading Bonus: +5pts. for #8, #9(review), #11, #38, #42, #74
Highest Climber: +5pts. #9
Qualifying Top 50%: +5pts. #5, #8, #11, #14, #22, #38, #42, #55, #66, #74


as far as i can tell now, we will have a lot of penalties though


Team championship looks like this (NOT official)

Team Championships

1st___Halfords Racing (2 Cars)___146.5
2nd___BotP (3 Cars)______________131.33
3rd___Fragmaster (4 Cars)________131

Last edited by Fischfix, Thu, 31 May 2007 21:02.

i probably missed that one, np.

hi, i like the tool a lot, and i use it for www.lfscar.com (in the results section)


but i get an error message when tracking this qualifying:
http://rapidshare.com/files/34 ... qual_20M_17R_23Q.mpr.html

Quote from J@mes :

Any chance we could have the graph in a higher resolution or something? its pretty hard to see whats going on there

i wish we could, but the graph and everything is done by lfstats tool, i might copy all laptimes into one excel file and see if i can render out a better lapgraph by myself. EDIT: I AM SO STUPID , there is a xml file to configure this thing... just hang on

Last edited by Fischfix, Wed, 30 May 2007 19:33.

i hope so too...

I have uploaded the first race statistics (inofficial results). You will find it in the "RESULTS" section of www.lfscar.com

for those who cannot access the website properly, here is the direct link to it.

you can read out most of the things: fastest lap, highest climber, leading bonus.

however, i need to check if the #9 car did a complete lap in leading position and of course all the penalties are not in that statistics.

i am still in need of a replay of the qualifying, as it did not save on my machine properly.

Last edited by Fischfix, Wed, 30 May 2007 22:44.

i still don't see any use in balancing the 3 GTRs. if they are all the same speed, and this is what most of the people here talk about, then everyone will drive the FXR just because it is 4WD and the easiest to handle. why not just letting them be as they are now and the league admins can define how they want to restrict certain cars. the track selection and length of a league will tell what car should be restricted in what matter to make it equal. a general equalization will result in a "body-kit" swap thing between the XRR and FZR. so you just choose one of those two cars which looks better to you. but then the use of two different cars is gone. its only body-kits then. every car should have an advantage on certain tracks/race-length. what i would improve to these cars is tire wear. they all use MUCH too less tires imo.

i am wondering how many different namings for this car exist whats next the "XXX"?

With this post i upload the actual version of the Special K layout.

Last edited by Fischfix, Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:00.

cheers, i will try it out tomorrow! keep up the good work!

As we had a discussion about this prior of the season we won't have any change to the ruleset and car for season 2 (only if there will be a real v8 stock car available) no matter how the result of this poll and discussion comes out.

the reasons are:
1. XRR is rearwheel drive which resembles more to nascar then the FXR
2. we had the FXR in season one which is much more stable, easier to handle with damage but not very challanging imo

i will reopen this thread just to see how your opinions are on this topic...

[quote=yankman;436122]@Fischfix:

I felt a bit guilty after the testrace cause I was complaining about serveral things in vent.
[quote]

to be honest yankman, at the testevent i did not expect that much criticism even from you and i was really pissed off, but it has a good outcome: everyone tries now to keep silence during racing.

in all evil is something good

Quote from J.B. :

Everyone else seems to go on a lot faster and usually one or two cars even overtake me. Was I doing it right? It seems to me that there would be less crashes under caution if people would go slower.
?

You did absolutely right just because there is no need for a hurry. if people overtook you (and you can bet on that i will look at any pacecar-phase closely) they will get a penalty if they don't give the place back.

Quote from J.B. :

A few more questions. Wasn't the actual race start supposed to be double file? Where can I get the layout files to practice the next tracks? What's the speed limit under caution when you are told to close the large gaps?

actually i did not gave out any speed limit for the closing command but closing it in reasonable speed should be common racing sense. however there will be some penatlies for causing crashes during Cautions becaus of unreasonable high speed.

you are right with the double file, but we did some test races right before the qualifying and the outcome was, lots of drivers had problems to follow the easy rule to stay in their file. i don't think it is a loss when we will have only singlefile starts and restarts in the future. it worked pretty good in the last event of season 1 but we can talk about it again in the 2nd half of season 2 to try it again.

the replay is online at: www.lfscar.com in the MEDIA section

yankman, i did not see that you wanted to talk to me sorry. i really did not see it. but you were right with that pacecar-situation it was too short. in the future i won't have anything todo with it, so the actual racing admin will give the RCM commands. if we will keep up the 20min. open qualifying there won't be bumpdrafting allowed, we had a small discussion about it. i think lots of drivers had a screwed up race... but overall you were 2nd. and what i can say for now, wait for the penalties there might be changes to the overall result anyway...

i get an "out of array"something message when using this program. it works perfect but in the middle of the race it just quits with a msg in the black window. it is a 130 laps race with about 20 drivers in it. i can send you the screenshot of that msg.

Last edited by Fischfix, Mon, 28 May 2007 23:30.

this is the inofficial race result so far. stay tuned for more in detail information.

everyone who is not sure about the starting procedure or pacecar procedure be on the server earlier, so we can do some practice starts/restarts.

i wish good luck to all drivers (including myself) and a great series. MAY THE SCHWARZ BE WITH YOU

LFSCAR 360degree.tk CUP SERIES SEASON 2: RACE 1
Hi gentlemen,

On Monday 28th, 18.15 UTC/GMT we will start with the first event of the LFSCAR 360degree.tk CUP SERIES, the KYOTO -130. We will race on the server:
"(FM) 360° EVENT!" which runs under the latest test patch available at 15.00 UTC. so make sure you have a copy of LFS with that patch ready.

Qualifying starts at 18.15 UTC/GMT.
1 outlap 2 fastlaps followed by a 6 lap sprint race with flying start

If we have more then 18 drivers on the server we will have a 20 min. open qualifying instead and no sprint race at all just to make the whole event not too long.

Track: Kyoto Oval Reverse
Length: 130 laps
Special: No car-reset, flying start under double file
Layout: NO Barriers at all, so keep your car behind the yellow line for pitting in and exiting. any crossing of the yellow line with more then one wheel while pitting in or out will result in a 5 point penalty. you are allowed to cross the line if you got wrecked.

Skins:
As not everyone has uploaded a skin so far, please make sure you have a proper skin ready for tomorrows event which contains at least YOUR CAR NUMBER BIG ENOUGH AND READABLE ENOUGH ON THE ROOF OF YOUR CAR.

Rules:
Please make sure you check out the rules-section again in the forum or on the website as we made some changes as a result of the warm-up event. the most important things are:

- NO DOUBLE FILE RESTARTS (but the first start is double filed)
- "GREEN FLAG!!!" means race is FREE , so you don't have to wait until finish line to overtake when you see the message
- Pacecar-Speed is 120km/h, 150km/h in last lap of the caution phase
- No caution during last 3 laps of the race
- "Lucky Dog" rule is still there
- Voice-chat isn't mandatory anymore
- Voice-chat: keep silence in the "Event" Channel

thanks to [FM]Blaster for being clerk of the course for tomorrows race and of course Orgi for doing the pacecar.

i hope to see as much as possible of you tomorrow
for the race.


This is the thread for any discussion to the first event of lfscar 360degree.tk cup series SEASON 2.

Last edited by Fischfix, Mon, 28 May 2007 00:06.

i know what you mean byrney and i will consider it depending on how many people there will be online tomorrow.

we also have to think about tracks like aston shich are 20sec. longer. we will have the standard qualifying (1outlap 2 fastlaps) on the autocross tracks just because there won't be a possibility for more then 16 drivers on those tracks.

i will send a reminder-mail tonight anyway containing all the information for tomorrows race (rules-changes, password e.g.)

Quote from Becky Rose :

Most Mac users will replace a faulty Mac mouse with another Mac mouse.

This is what i never will understand with mac users (and i am a grafic designer, so i know what a mac is

Qualifying:
depending on how many drivers we will have either the normal qualifying as it is in the rules. OR if there are that many drivers we will have something different.

the normal qualifying is:
1 outlap 2 fastlaps, 6 laps sprint race


if there are more then 16 drivers the alternative qualifying will be:
20 min. open track qualifying, any kind of drafting is allowed, you are allowed to do as much laps as you want. Wrecks HAVE TO shift+s as soon as possible. there won't be any sprint race. right after the qualifying we will set up the grid for the main race. use this time for your cigarette or peeing brake after you are set to your starting position.
this format is because in the warm-up heat, the whole qualifying procedure needed too much time.

Last edited by Fischfix, Sun, 27 May 2007 09:51.

HEY ORGI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO GO GO ORGI!!!
i didn't know you were the Jägermeister team!

DRIVE HER HARD!

not sure on that, i think the first crash was a minor accident (max. 5 points penalty) and the overtaking before pit-road was about the same issue. the first crash causing the pacecarphase may be analized more in detail, maybe it could be a normal racing accident..

it is a game. no matter if you are good or not, just have fun. if you don't have fun, play something else ...