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I think that this could be easily solved by increasing lateral tyre vs gravel resistance...

Quote from filur :

Wasn't that exactly what i said?

:doh: yes, i didn't read your first post properly

Yup I have suggested this before> link
I don't see a problem with current advertisements.. imo its not a problem to add a few advertising places on the tracks which would be skinable...

hmmm nice, can't wait when the time comes when will the tyres from different manufacturers have different characteristics

Quote from filur :

Quite alot of work to go through every race you've ever done to find out how many fastest laps you've got.

i ment that you wouldn't have to count it on the fly from a live race, the only thing Vic needs to program is a little script that goes through your online races results and counts the best laps...

Quote from filur :

Perhaps grab it from race results instead of on-the-fly?

no need for this when there is this page

Quote from SamH :

IMPORTANT: Someone please quickly correct me if this isn't true.

No need to correct you, because its true

exactly, this is why i have 5 different LFS directories from one of the earliest demo

Quote from Dcon :

Maybe I should return this and just get a DFP!

that would be the best decision

enough to continue the development

Quote from Razzone :

Well mr Orion, sorry to say that but:
- SMSing for sure delayed and will delay the patch release date (doesn't it involves some LFSWorld updating itself ?..don't think next patch it's simply some dbtable deleting about hotlaps from Victor's side). is it rock solid? I hope so, but unfortunately some debugging will be necessary.

- S3 was and I hope will remain the final goal of this MARVELLOUS project. But PLEASE don't sit down and watch off the window, thinking LFS is just so good at this stage. Hundred people publishers/software houses are not the only alternative, other "rebels" developers (not only Casillo & co) are facing the simracing scene. It would be a pity to loose "rebels" leadership sitting on road's milestone watching your beautyfull shoes and in the meantime the bus left.....

LFS: live long and PROSPER!

Well Mr. Razzone sorry to say that but:
- SMSing was done by Victor who takes care of music in LFS and all the website things (LFSW, forum, etc.) and reseting the hotlap charts is imo done in a minute... Scawen is the guy programming LFS - the simulation, so the patch has not been delayed by this...

EDIT> beaten by the allmighty :bowdown: Scawen

Quote from Frankmd :

Please don't call the police.

btw. seeing all those configs i have this idea which would require a bit of coding, but here goes> present the server admin with a blank map of aston and let him switch on/off particular parts of the track... i can see more than 6 configs there and with a little modeling even more... of course a check would be needed so that track would be driveable...

yes it is possible... set your control to joystick/wheel and then when assigning axes you can choose mouse...

Quote from sinbad :

Well I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I think balancing cars that are fundamentally different for ALL circuits is impossible, and balancing them so it evens out across all circuits is as much down to changing circuits as it is to changing cars.....

I don't say make them exactly equal, this is virtually impossible, but now there is not a single track (oval doesn't count) where the rwd IS faster... it's all fwd ownage and that is just not right...

Quote from spankmeyer :

Did you know the FXO has the widest tyres of the turbo class? Wider tyres = more grip = faster times. Or the FZR being only GTR car without handicap-o-bonus aka turbo. I'm really puzzled why there are such differences within car classes when logic says those kind of features cause nothing but unbalance.

yup I noticed the wider tyres on the FXO (front and rear same, while the GTT has only the rear tyres that wide), but when playing around with mecanik I found out that is seems that tyre width does not effect grip so much as I think it should (although I might be wrong...)

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

What S2 tire patch was that??

if i recall correctly about a month after the first S2 demo was released... i think it had to do something with temperatures on gravel and also some tweak for tarmac...

Quote from Rappa Z :

What's next? Kids???

the jumping smileys represent kids , i could not find any appropriate smiley...

Quote from Madman_CZ :

a story huh?

:bananadea :ambulance :tombstone

or a happy ending >
:ambulance :doctor: :nurse: :lovies3d: :couple: => :huepfenic

Quote from Gabkicks :

the next patch is supposed to take care of alot of suspension/tire issues.

the s1 > s2 physics upgrade should have done it, the s2 tyre patch should have done it and yet no results, so i'm a bit sceptical...

Quote from _rod_ :

Lets hope with this new patch the RWD will be better to drive with.

well i have hoped for over 2 years now...

Quote from WGooden :

I wouldn't mind some organized races with only the gt or gtt, since you never see them online and they are actually fun to drive.

yup they are, but only a minority of drivers likes them and the rest has no need to even try them since they are slower... and why don't you see them online? because most people (in demo) dont bother bother driving the GT (GTT in demo is another story, since its the only faster car, but on licensed servers where the TBO class is allowed, its almost always FXO), why should they when the gti is faster... i organise races for those without license and they just ignored the GT, maybe drove a few laps but had no motivation to learn it properly...

Quote from MadCatX :

In FXO you can simply floor the throtte at the Blackwood chicane, in XRT you have to do a liftoff on the exit.

You dont have to, but you have to get your line spot on!

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

Maybe the updated physics will affect this? :

Well I hoped for this 2 years ago (see RSC link in my 1st post) and it did not happen... exactly the opposite happend... in S1 the GT was faster than the GTi

I pray for removing the FWD ownage of the RWD cars...

This has been there since the days of S1 (FXO vs GTT)... Isn't it time to reward the drivers that take the harder car to drive (rwd) with better times? In S1 times everybody said wait till S2 when new suspension model comes, after the first S2 demo, I hoped that a better tyre model that will make them more equal... This has not happened, on the contrary GTi was given more HP bringing the unequality to the lower class too. You don't see a single GT on the track in demo and now on all tracks except the oval a fwd car is faster than rwd and in my opinion this is just wrong... There is no possibility to make a league with a choosing a car from a class. Everybody just takes GTi or FXO if they are given the choice and I would love to make a league where different cars appear. Is the driver not that experienced he takes the FXO and he doesen't have to worry much about keeping his car on the track, while at the same time the one who has the balls takes the GTT, wrestles with it and is rewarded by better times...
What do you think? I'm I right or completely out?

EDIT> Almost the same thread back on RSC... over 2 years old...

Last edited by Chaos, Fri 31 Mar 2006, 18:55.