Quote from och :

I got the Oculus last night, and tried it with Project Cars. After about 1/3 of the Nordschleife lap I got so motion sick that my brain was melting. I will try it with LFS right now and if it's the same, the Oculus goes back.

I was the same at first but it stopped after a short while. I love LFS with the rift and it revived my love for LFS, really good immersion and love with how effortless it is to use menu's ect in-game.

Quote from 5tag :

Wow, do you work for Electronic Arts, by any chance?



I think plenty of people consider this, but it seems naive to think it could make online racing crowded again. There just aren't even enough people looking for servers for individual initiative to take effect. And the ones that do, seem to dislike anything that isn't GTi or GT2 racing. I know where you're coming from, I've done this many times (hotlapping an interesting combo and waiting for other people to join) and it rarely works for any length of time. It's frustrating to me as well, but in this kind of thread we should look at how it is, not at what we want it to be.

I agree with you about it seems GTI or GT2 that seems more preferable. As in the numbers that look for racing ect if half the people who spend their time moaning about it here on the forums actually went to race online the numbers would be great, the same goes for those that complain about the scirroco like its much needed yet they have not even driven all current cars and will complain no matter what.

I think one thing we can get from this and that is the love for liveforspeed is present which is evident from the amount of people that are still here on the forums waiting for something to happen

Quote from 5tag :

When I join a server I say hello and if there's nobody I recognise then that's usually it. It wasn't a complaint, but more to illustrate how often even multiple (independent) people do not spark a growth of server population and it just leads to nothing.




I don't know how LFSW could even give you stats to such an oddly specific scenario, but I too am giving facts from personal experience. I meant it exactly the way I said and I don't just race four times a year.



I read your previous post initially, did you? Because yes, *some* are fine with sticking to single player stuff, but then again "some", and I'd even argue the majority, want to play together with other people. The same could be said about your conclusion; to some people it doesn't matter whether a track is real or fictional - as long as they are of good quality. And you could argue that the making of Rockingham has influenced and will influence the design of LFS's fantasy tracks (like ripples in braking zones and curbs on Westhill and Blackwood). So since we don't know OP's preferences, it's only fair to try and give a universal opinion.

So you can have yours, I can have mine. Just don't try to discredit experiences that other people made.

I only stated a fact about regarding something that you stated, its who i am and nothing meant on a personal level also a truth cannot be discredited! So many moan about the state of licensed online racing yet no-one understands that if everyone tried to do something about like going online it would not be an issue

If nothing gets said when you join a server with people on it then start a conversation
You're taking one bad experience(LFSW shows it as once it has happened within past 6 months) and saying that defines s2-s3 servers.
I am giving facts based on our servers and personal experience on them

Also if you would of read my previous post you would see that i said "Remember some are content with doing hotlaps or racing against the computer", which would then make it worth buying for a track that has been "laser scanned" and not a made up non existent track

Last edited by bishtop, Tue, 5 Mar 2019 23:08.

Remember some are content with doing hotlaps or racing against the computer for the moment also for iracing add all the other cost with that £12 for a track

Also it takes someone simply to get one or two people on a server and it soon gets racers joining. Happens anytime i use our s2/s3 server. No-one seems to want to be the first on a server or they have it set to hide empty servers

some crazy stunts in the video.

IPV6 is just bad for online gaming no matter the game. From Battlefield 4 and Fornite BR and STW along with others i have played, using IPV6 results in an unstable connection in the way of packet loss + fluctuating ping

As soon as its changed to IPV4 its stable and low ping

"if you have IPV6 turned on, DNS lookups are 2 to 3 times slower than with IPV4. That's why it seems as if your computer has "trouble connecting" to web sites. When you initiate a connection to any site, the first thing it does is look up the IP address in DNS.

DNS lookups are slow on IPV6 for several reasons.

First, DNS is currently handled in serial, not parallel. The IPV4 lookup is always handled first, then the IPV6, so it takes at least twice as long.

Second, because the IPV6 lookups are less frequent, they are not cached as often on the DNS server, causing further delay."

Also IPV6 is not supported by either many ISP's or as you say possibly the gaming servers

Last edited by bishtop, Fri, 1 Mar 2019 08:16.

Quote from klbbadd2002 :

I understand what you are trying to say. Ive been watching lfs "make progress" for 10 years, which does not amount to a lot for that amount of time.

have you given the current and previous versions of LFS any chance. I do not mean it in a bashing stats sense and not as any type of attack, but you have been a part of LFS for a very long time but it would seem you gave up as soon as you tried


@back on topic

Looks great, i agree with some of the other opinions, being that a system of either just Night or day would be sufficient

Quote from F.C.Barcelona :

only worth the demo better invest your money in some beers

And what do you base your opinion on if you do not own s3 or even s2 ?

@OP - Quite a bit of work went into making the rockingham track such as being laser scanned,so if you want something that is based on a real life race track and something that is graphically much much better than the other available tracks (except blackwood + westhill) then its worth the investment.

I have hardly raced on it but thats only due to sticking to one track at a time so i can improve my times then i will be shifting my focus onto it

It can be seen that the developers are working on updating some of the current tracks which means there is a possibility of other additional content which could be released as s3 licensed content]

Quote from Ghousse :

Hey guys, so this is my first edit (At least the one I'm kinda proud of..) and I hope that u guys like it, feel free to give me feedback about anything!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ ... 082/in/dateposted-public/

looks good, may i make one suggestion? add a little contrast, not too much so it keeps the effect of the glow enough for the where its supposed to be dark to be darker

Well done on a good first attempt

Id suggest reinstalling LFS, does it delete your full driver profile so it ends changing your racer name to unnamed. If so its obviously something deleting your driver profile from the lfs/data/misc folder, do you use CCLEANER or any other junk removal tool that could be causing it

Quote from F.C.Barcelona :

fix the exploits buttonclutch/handbrake/hybrid tyres on asphalt is most important than some stupid hacked hotlaps

love the logic.... not

Quote from ACCAkut :

Most users decided that after over ten years on the same content it was time to move on. Either from gaming in general or just this old sim. You won't get them back, even a content update would not result in that. The simracing market grew and competition is fierce, a over ten year old sim on a ~15 year old graphics base won't attract new blood either, if not those that lack machines to run the contemporary titles.

The thing is apart from IRACING which i have not played i can say that a.c and pcars do not yield much numbers in terms of players

Im still happy on lfs after 8+ years and if you check 9/10 racers stats they have/did not even give the current content a fair try, A few people get put off due to the fact that they get kinda lost in one of LFS great features and that is the setups and for some the main settings for the controller and as they cannot get insta good like NFS it stops entertaining them

In lfs then options set your wheel degrees to what you find best, if its fbm for example i set to 400 or 450 degrees, and set wheel turn compensation to 0(my preference).

I am unsure if your wheel will use the brake and gas as a combined axis or not which you will need to check in the controller options

Quote from Ped7g :

when even British people can't sense sarcasm ... :/ ... what has the world become.

Where did i comment on you saying it ? If you had read what i had said, then you would of noticed i had taken what you had said regardless of if it was sarcasm or was serious and made a statement about having had others say that in the past. :/

Quote from Ped7g :

Look, if Scawen does not like cracked master server, why don't you create your own game and release it for free for everyone?

All problems solved... Scawen can stay closed in his little pit of overpriced game, and you will have free servers for everyone.

Looking forward to try your own game soon... Xmass release maybe?

"his overpriced game" - Some have said this in the past but I have had more than my moneys worth from LFS, some of the best fun and met some great people and still after 124433 laps or 332826 miles i still have plenty to learn and plenty of cars/track combo's to conquer. I have got and tried pcars and assetto corsa and yes they are graphically better but they do not have that special something that LFS has which keeps bringing me back

Quote from three_jump :

I'd like to point out that this forum is the official forum for a product and therefor moderation policies are not really subject to a democratic process.
The devs provide a service here for more than 10 years and so far the only annoyances have come from a very very small group of people who, as far as I'm concerned, act like little kids with no manners. If you have a problem you can discuss it in a sensible way. If you are not able to do that, please stay away.
This is the internet, there are plenty of places where people can discuss stuff of any kind, but don't blame the moderators (or Scawen in this case) for doing the job as they see fit and have the right to. If you don't agree with them or the policies (which have hardly changed since this forum started), then don't be here. Nobody forces you to use this forum.

This post hits the nail on the head so to speak. Scawen accepts most things to be discussed aslong as the discussion is in the correct way without people resorting to insults and disrespecting others

Quote from Racer X NZ :

Try doing that in NZ !!!!!
Your only choices are new, or Ebay. And who wants to buy second hand from the other side of the world.
Here's Linus on VR. (4 Jan 19)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85DiHTpxGCo&feature=youtu.be

In NZ anyway, there is no VR. No real retail, competition etc. And if you read what I said, It's the fact that VR isn't NEEDED for gaming at the moment. Yes its nice, yes its still being developed, and yes, it still has a long way to go.

Clearly Codemasters feel the same and believe that they will sell enough product without the need to support a still emerging tech.

I'm just happy that they are still trying to produce a decent Rally game, with weather, good physics, and immersion.
I'm much happier with that being the outcome personally.

For those of you that feel that its VR or nothing, more power to you.

Using EBAY is not a bad option if you make sure to only buy from sellers with top feedback, I sell darkroom equipment on there occasionally and also purchase stuff often without problems

Quote from frnku :

good idea. ban everyone from everywhere that'll sure make them play on licenced servers. you act as you're on high ground while in reality this game can't afford to lose a single player

how about trying to fix the game instead of power tripping over bs? imagine being this retarded to actually believe piracy = lost sales.

LOL . We pay for our licenses along with pay to provide servers for others to use so it is rightfully not wanting such people to ever have the chance to use our servers

I understand that some people are unable to afford to buy licenses due to genuine hardships and i honestly do feel for them but it does not give someone the right to essentially steal money from the game developers by providing cracked servers

Quote from Racer X NZ :

Well, VR is just so mainstream as "EVERYBODY" runs it... NOT.

As someone who thinks VR is a massive **** only enjoyed by those with a large disposable income who will need to spend equally large amounts of money repeatedly until this either dies or becomes usable, let's see which, here's an opinion from a 1080 gamer.

Looks good, Codemasters seem to be focussed on an actually rally sim. As the last great rally sim was Colin MacRay, untold years ago, much credit to them for trying to create a great rally sim.

A rift DK2 is sufficient enough and cheap enough for most to use for racing sims, using the debug tool you can up the PPDP - Pixels per display pixel which id recommend setting to 2.0 which clears the image quality a lot and they can be picked up for around 120-130 usd or 100 gbp or cheaper

Quote from Racer Y :

I dunno.... Looking at the big picture, I don't see any massive amounts of new purchasers for LFS - especially in the Americas. Racing across the board is in decline. All you have to do is watch a race on TV and look at the stands. Well this extends not just to race spectating but the whole sport/concept in general. And while popularity is going down, the ratio of titles to potential customers has gone up.
For example 10 years ago you had - i dunno several hundred thousands of gaming enthusiasts for racing games with only a few titles to choose from. Most of those being crappy arcade style games.
Now you have only several thousand players - maybe - with a whole bunch of titles. They're not all gonna jump on one game.
Of course those numbers aren't anywhere near accurate. I haven't got the slightest idea of the exact numbers. There may actually be about the same amount of games to choose from and maybe more dedicated gamers to racing, but hopefully y'all get the point.
Tennis.... Tennis games are a good example. How many people play tennis? How many go out and buy and play tennis video games?
I'm thinking if you want more people on the servers, then some sort of marketing strategy aimed at more "experienced" sim-racer types would probably be a better idea than going head to head with the "pretty games" to get new people playing. This game has a pretty steep learning curve as it is. People that aren't into racing games don't really like it. It's "too hard to play".
And as much as I hate to see people taking video games too serious, I'm thinking that might be the best selling point: The realistic level of physics.
LOL definitely not the graphics. Even to this day, most titles out there can't come close to offering what LFS can with racing. They just look pretty.
But seeing that we're really playing someone's dream and not a video game, I'm guessing none of that really matters.

If y'all want more folks playing, then you're gonna have to do some leg work and learn the art of cold calling, selling something to someone that wasn't originally interested.
I doubt Scawen will spring for the ad space in YouTube videos.

Agree with the need for advertising LFS, The majority of people i race with in PCARS and A.C have not heard of LFS and after checking lfs out they like what they see.
As in terms of numbers of users i would say project cars is not doing so well while a.c is doing not to bad but neither seem to be doing as well as what LFS used to be like

LFS still has the potential to bring in more racers due to there being a demo/free option which then could bring in more licensed racers. The most damaging thing for LFS is the post that always surface of people moaning about new cars or tracks even though they have not given the current available content a chance and currently driven a few of the current available cars and tracks, they would continue to moan regardless of releases

Open up your Logitech Profiler and then the FFB (Force Feedback) settings window: either "Options" - "Global Device Settings" or if you are using game profiles "Edit" - "Specific Game Settings". Suggested settings are these (also shown in the screenshot):

Overall Effects Strength - Set to 101-105% (101% is good value). Due to problems inside the Logitech Profiler the FFB only starts to act linearly when set over 100%. You can always fine tune the level of FFB in LFS's Options > Controls or you can adjust it "on the fly" while driving with the FFB (Force Feedback) shortcut keys.
Spring Effect Strength - Set to 0%. It is Logitech driver based effect and practically LFS does not need this (confirmed by the game developer).
Damper Effect Strength - Set to 0%. It is Logitech driver based effect and practically LFS does not need this (confirmed by the game developer).
Enable Centering Spring / Centering Spring Strength - Uncheck the box (disable it) and set it to 0%.
Report Combined Pedals - Uncheck this option. Enabling this only gives you one pedal axis, meaning you can't use brake and throttle pedals properly. So disable it.
Degrees of Rotation - If your wheel provides this option, set it to the particular car's lock-to-lock angle (LFS lets you see this value in the car setup screen, under "Steering").

(Source - https://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Wheels)

These are the guidelines i use for my wheel setup

LFS was/is reported by many to have the best FFB, hope you figure it out soon. good luck

Last edited by bishtop, Sun, 20 Jan 2019 00:36.

Depending on how often you will be changing cars, each car has its own setting or amount of degrees if you want 1-1 steering. For example the FBM is 450 degrees while the xfg is 720 degrees or the BF1 is 400

Do you have the centre spring effect disabled and also set the spring and damper effect strength to 0 in the logitech profiler

il upload some setups and send you a link when i am back on my pc at home

I found Sony Vegas Pro better and more easier to use and add effects ect to the videos

Sounds more of an issue on the network adapter possibly just the settings if it has any, and if it lacks any settings to adjust you can either do them via the registry if you're confident or download speedguides tcp optimizer
Quite possible that the network adapter is still going into a sleep or low power mode among other things