I agree , i was told earlier on in the topic that i was wasting my time, i just never listened. He cannot be blamed i know, its just very unfortunate
You though my friend seem like a very thoughtful and honest friendly person. Respect for that.
I have a a good deal of experience with some Ukrainian people, the only reason i post wikipedia or other links is for the chance for other's to read to get some context to what i say without me having to write a big post on here. My issue is i'm an analayzer/analyst but not a very good writer, as in id tend to write such a big post which would then lose the meaning i was intending to put across to others.
I know that with Ukraine there's some questionable things, such as the use of those with the idealogy of the Asov battalion and the example you gave with EeOneGuy ,we all have these type of people, the Uk, USA and Russia all have people with Nationalist beliefs, what i have always summed up though is they don't amount to the reason for war. If they went on to commit crimes like Hitler had done then it would start to be a different story.
I could see that its easy for others to also say glory to the heroes without understanding or knowing the link with the past, and with only being meant at honouring those fighting for them.
dfgjkl linking my glory to Ukraine to nationalism is like some are trying to link the letter Z being used on tanks as being half swastikas, whilst there may be similaraties, people will always try to find a link to something sinister even though they're wrong.
Yes i know that if glory to the heroes is also said with it then it can be linked to the nationalist, its something that i and others never add to slava ukraini.
dfgjkl was trying to imply that by me saying Slava Ukraini it was used in the same tone as by the nationalist, where it quite obviously is a different thing since it was used long before.
It first became popular during the Ukrainian War of independence between 1917 to 1921 , it was then used by Stepan from around the 1930s which then had the response Glory to the heroes.
Another variation dates back to the 1860s from a poem by Taras Shevchenko, with saying Glory of Ukraine
Not sure if this will be related but when you set the Arrow keys for steering and accelerating and brakes it does not show as having the keys assigned in the settings.
This could be due to them being already preset for something under the buttons 2 menu(image 2).
In the first image i have set the arrow keys for steering and gas and brake yet shows them as blank in settings
Because Russell does have a lot of people that follow him, being wrong can have a bigger impact than expected.
And i like Russell Brand for his comedy, he's a very good comedian and i've watched him on TV since around 2004 when he became a big hit on british TV due to Big Brother , an analyst though he is not though, even though he has the intelligence to become one.
The drones that Ukraine hold from Turkey had been sold over the past few years, the latest contract hasn't even seen the production start as of yet. And he does come across as hes saying that We or the West are selling them weapons when in fact we're giving to them out of our own security budgets.
Finally this isn't an argument, if i come across as arguing then i apologise as its not my intention.
Slava Ukraini , all the way. glory to Ukraine ! I don't get your point, i've made that quite clear from the beguinning
I want Ukraine to be victorious in defeating the invaders of its land, nothing more nothing less. Its just a shame that whatever the outcome is, many Ukrainians and Russian soldiers have and will die.
It boils down to what is right and what is wrong, and the invasion was wrong, just as the majority of invasions are.
First you say "you can stop repeating your mantra about children! 8 years you give a f** about children of Donbas" then you say "you speak with emotion, not common sense." Well which is it ? If i speak with emotion that means i care.
Wait, you're trying to tell me that the killing of innocent people is justified because of an image like that, you lack common sense not me.
I see that there's a few things wrong in Ukraine but nothing that makes it acceptable to attack the country. Its not like they're recreating what hitler did.
Maybe if you got in touch with emotions, you would at least see that the death and destruction is wrong.
First of watch your tone, keep it friendly/respectful ,and you see i am a compassionate person, i care about everyone and being a father especially the lives of children, are you saying that you don't care about other peoples lives especially childrens lives ? that would be a bad on your side not mine.
Finally thats one soldier wearing it , while i see thousands of images of them that don't show them with the name on there uniforms.
Guess you also didn't see or care about the destruction shown in the video.
That is one battalion so does that make it okay for the deaths of children and innocent civillians ? Does that make it justifiable for an attack ? No - Far from it.
Maybe its due to your broken english, not your fault obviously.
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The way that came across by saying you , in english is as if you implied that scawen does not like it, hence my reply. It was only after then you say you again but in brackets say the west.
I won't be a child and say you disappoint me though
Disagree with what ? . Please at least say what you disagree with as i've made multiple post
If it was my comment about Nato, then if it all was about Nato , then is the rest of georgia next for the very same reason ? then after that would Finland be next with the excuse that if Finland became part of Nato then it would be too close for comfort if Nato placed Hypersonic missiles there.
Or do you disagree with what i said to Cargame ? i only stated what it said on the page he linked, he said that it stated Ukraine had the Missile, but on the page he linked it said that it was Russia whom had it.
Certainly having a prize of some type would increase numbers, if the League/championships lasted long enough that people wouldn't lose interest if they didn't do so well in a few races, always giving them hope of a comeback then it would work great.
No they didn't expect it to go this way, Viktor Zolotov, chief of Russia's national guard and a member of Putin's security council, said progress had been slower than expected.
He also said "I would like to say that yes, not everything is going as fast as we would like," Zolotov said in comments posted on the National Guard's website.
Agree with you on that the issue was never really with NATO, but was a useful tool to use for propaganda, in turn attempting to make it justifiable
When you read the link to the wiki page you posted it says the following
"The responsibility for investigation was delegated to the Dutch Safety Board (DSB) and the Dutch-led joint investigation team (JIT), who concluded that the airliner was downed by a Buk surface-to-air missile launched from pro-Russian separatist-controlled territory in Ukraine.[3][7] According to the JIT, the Buk that was used originated from the 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade of the Russian Federation[8][9] and had been transported from Russia on the day of the crash, fired from a field in a rebel-controlled area and the launch system returned to Russia afterwards"
It states the missile was had been transported from Russia on the day of the crash and was fired from within pro-russian terrority.
"On 28 September 2016, the JIT gave a press conference in which it concluded that the aircraft was shot down with a 9M38 Buk missile fired from a rebel-controlled field near Pervomaisky (Первомайський), a town 6 km (3.7 mi) south of Snizhne.[126] It also found the Buk missile system used had been transported from Russia into Ukraine on the day of the crash, and then back into Russia after the crash, with one missile less than it arrived with."
All my post contain an explaination with the links. Sorry just slightly confused
No worries anyway i wasn't offended per say, i actually like to read a lot of what you say, and as i've said earlier on, i get the impression you're a decent guy
You're wrong on that, you see the majority of us can and do have a civilised discussion even when we do not agree with each other, it is only the few that come and ruin the discussion.
If you don't remove "bad men" then you're allowing "bad men", allowing them is just as bad, while i agree that in some cases they can be replaced by someone that is bad, thats a chance that has to be taken as its better than doing nothing.
Have you tried with a proxy, if you use firefox then anonymoux is a good one, just to see if its to do with your IP address being blocked for some reason.
Il refrain from reading past this part due to the FACT you're wrong. We're not arguing at all. Were having something that's called a Discussion.
Agree with you, he doesn't seem the type of person to bow in to pressure, and their is a story that Putin once told from when he was younger, due to a poor childhood they used to chase rats around for fun, one time he cornered a rat and due to it being cornered it tried to attack him.
He goes with this principle in life, things become dangerous and likely to attack if they're put into a corner with no way out.
Contrary to what Aleksandr_124rus seems to believe, we're well educated in geography and history in our schools and colleges and universities.
You do speak a lot of sense. I personally think this is Putins retirement plan though, so to speak. He is 70 years old soon and even though he may live quite a while longer, his actual intentions may be a slightly longer plan.
Heres a video apparently based from some Russian soldiers and their experience up to now.