I didn't bring up the comparison between guns and kinder eggs. I only commented that a child is statistically more likely to die by choking than shooting so it isn't really an example of bad policy, but bad parenting instead. I occasionally had kinder eggs growing up, but I wasn't left alone with them at an age I could choke on the parts. I also occasionally shot guns around age 9 but I was always supervised...like tens of millions of other people do without ending up a tragic news story. A girl who has good parents.

I find it hard to believe that modern society has devolved us to the point that a child in the 19th century had more personal responsibility and common sense than fully grown adults have today. Life is just so easy for us that we are angry and confused when we realize that we haven't erased everything that could possibly hurt us emotionally or physically, no matter how small the real risk is. Lets let facts and statistics drive public policy instead of our emotions.

You just can't see straight if you're surrounded by that mentality every day. Just like those tribes that still wear leaves as their undies and eat humans, that's perfectly normal to them cause that is what they're surrounded by every day, which doesn't mean that's fine.
OI! Guns were designed with one purposse only, to kill stuff. I'm a big fan of them and was a member of a shooting range (is that the right term) for years, but i would be scared shitless if everyone had legal access to them.

I can't help the fact that some people still act like animals, but I take reasonable precautions by having a tool to protect myself from predators. The fact is this: No gun control law in the US has ever decreased gun violence and murder. Never. Not once, and not in the future. The only gun laws that has decreased gun violence are ones that deregulate and liberalize gun ownership, which has been a part of the 50% reduction in gun crime over the last 20 years. Again, your emotions are valid in other contexts, but not applicable in the area of government policy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682JLrsUmEM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50 ... with-rifle-ky-police-say/

That is not saying I am for more gun control. Just thought this was relevant to the discussion.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50 ... with-rifle-ky-police-say/

That is not saying I am for more gun control. Just thought this was relevant to the discussion.

Thank god he didn't have a Kinder Egg, there's no telling how many more he would have killed.

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The fact is this: No gun control law in the US has ever decreased gun violence and murder. Never. Not once, and not in the future.

That's because you're deeply fcked now and something had to be done WAYY earlier.
Honestly, no law against selling guns to children, how the fck did it came to that point?

How strict and how long has those previous attemts on gun regulation been? I am sure that a countrywide reform over a longer periode of time would show some results. Results will not be big in the start, because a whole culture would need to be changed. But with time I'm suree there would be a significant noticeable change.

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That's because you're deeply fcked now and something had to be done WAYY earlier.
Honestly, no law against selling guns to children, how the fck did it came to that point?

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/serbia

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Minimum Age for Firearm Possession
The minimum age for gun ownership in Serbia is undefined

Note: I'm in favor of more/better gun control.

That's so not true lol Even if you have a licence you have to keep it dissasambled in the house, and you can't carry it around, only the police and military can have a loaded gun in the house fully assembled.
But i do love your self-defense laws though, here you have to shoot like two times in the cieling as a warning, then try to only wound him, but even then you're ****ed, burglars are like polar bears here.

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burglars are like polar bears here.

So they fumble around on icebergs and fall down and kill fish?

It is also not true that children can buy guns in the US, you misunderstood the story. The minimum age to buy a handgun is 21, 18 for long guns. Children can be taught to operate firearms safely at their parent's discretion and close supervision.

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burglars are like polar bears here.

Difficult to defend against without guns.

Agree, i fully support having a handgun in home for self protection, but not to be legal to carry it around, and definately not to be able to buy shotguns and semi/automatic rifles with that kind of ease. I mean c'mon. You've heard the story of that suicide on the airport yesterday i think? He started shooting first and POLICE OFFICER missed him, he shoots like 3 times a week, and he missed him.
So you buying a gun off of eBay won't do jack shit in a similiar situation. That's your main reason, right, in 'stopping' those situations...

We actually had ( and maybe still do) stricter gun laws than Canada. Its our news
Imo. Watch Michael moore's canada clip from bowling for columbine

About 10 years ago Canada started demanding licences for all weapons or you had to surrender them at a police station and if you're caught with weapons while not having a licence, you are liable to various criminal penalties.

As it stands now, I could not walk to Walmart and buy a gun or ammo, nor does Walmart sell those ridiculous items in the first place.

If I ever were brain damaged enough to want to obtain a firearm, I would need go through a licencing system to simply own and purchase a gun.

Yeah, America's laws are so much tighter. Wander in drunk to a Wal Mart and go "I want one of them boom sticks", and then on your way out, picking up a 64 case of Budweiser.

Canada had a national gun registry up until last year. They stopped because it cost too much money and was not set up to measure evidence-based outcomes such as reduced deaths, injuries and threats from firearms, making the registry useless in the first place. Basically a five hundred million dollar study of the gun buying behaviors of ordinary lawful citizens trying to navigate a licensing bureaucracy. We could have one just like it and pay five times as much!

That article is antiquated as there were some gun-related laws that were passed in 2001. That article keeps referring to 1977.

Never mind that article appears that it was written in the late 80s to early 90s.

Poor reference.

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Yeah, America's laws are so much tighter. Wander in drunk to a Wal Mart and go "I want one of them boom sticks", and then on your way out, picking up a 64 case of Budweiser.

No one else here is lying or exaggerating to prove their point. It makes me wonder why you feel the need to. Could it be because you have added no facts to this discussion? Your feelings don't make good laws.

I'm not lying or exagurating. American gun laws are looser than a seasoned Asian pornstar and Budweiser is so weak that you'd need 64 just to get a buzz going.

Dawesdust, fun fact:

There are some states were you can legally purchase a gun, cigarettes, and alcohol all without getting out of your car.

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Dawesdust, fun fact:

There are some states were you can legally purchase a gun, cigarettes, and alcohol all without getting out of your car.

'Murica.

I don't know what is a worse idea... drive through gun+smoke+booze stores, or delivery McDonalds.

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Dawesdust, fun fact:

There are some states were you can legally purchase a gun, cigarettes, and alcohol all without getting out of your car.

Sometimes you don't even have to get IN your car. Or even out of your house.

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ARIZONA: 3 YEAR OLD BOY SHOOTS HIMSELF IN THE FACE AFTER FINDING A 9MM PISTOL IN HIS GRANDMOTHERS BACKPACK. NYDN. #911BUFF

This happened not too long ago.. And by not too long ago, I mean in the last hour or two.