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Well I'm sure they are enthusiasts, just not the type concerned enough with the nitty gritty of how cars drive. With all that budget you would think they could have someone with the experience to stumble upon these pretty glaring issues.

I would've been very happy with GT5 being Enthusia+. But somehow... it isn't. Boggles my mind.
Depending on the cars, #2 is the only way I keep the rear in check, whilst #1 helps keep control of the car in a situation. But then again I don't know what cars you've driven.
Quote from Mattesa :Well I'm sure they are enthusiasts, just not the type concerned enough with the nitty gritty of how cars drive. With all that budget you would think they could have someone with the experience to stumble upon these pretty glaring issues.

I would've been very happy with GT5 being Enthusia+. But somehow... it isn't. Boggles my mind.

I was being somewhat facetious.
Clearly the people in charge don't care quite as much about things which are really quite obvious, as we think the should.

The smoke is one thing, but the damped and often unnoticeable body roll is quite another. It even makes the tyres look like they don't actually have too much grip, because the car appears to weigh almost nothing, you don't get that fundamental impression of this heavy object being dragged around corners by the contact patches. Things just all seem a bit gentler.
There is a new seasonal event with the spa track. And apparently you don't need to own the spa dlc to be able to drive in that race.

The spa is surprisingly accurate too and compares well with iracing imho.
Quote from Hyperactive :There is a new seasonal event with the spa track. And apparently you don't need to own the spa dlc to be able to drive in that race.

The spa is surprisingly accurate too and compares well with iracing imho.

It is, i think it's even better, thanks to the great GT5 graphics (apart from the nasty sun reflection).
I got bit upset about the no-need-to-buy-dlc thing, a bit unfair, when you consider that Spa isn't used anywhere else than online, but as long as they keep it only in seasonals, i'm "ok" with it.
Does Spa look a bit clean? I mean the curbs and runoff I expected to have more tire marks. Anyway, beautifully done track. I don't have the DLC so I'm driving it through the seasonal but it's a deffo buy.

After-honeymoon report on the game: I've been totally taken in. Caught myself spending lots of time in between drives just poking around and drooling at the premium cars. Enjoying it lots... and the anal things don't bother me as much now.
Looks like the bastard child between an Audi R8 and an McLaren MP4/12c


But I like it, expect for this stupid hybrid crap.
I hope they're joking about that NSX... It looks nothing like an NSX, it looks like a SGC..
premium 1966 Beetle

Looks like the "test track" is back, which I feel should be free...
That Lambo. :E Oh well, more money down the drain... ^^
LOL at focus on better hybrid simulation.

The green agenda infects everything.
Not giving them a dime until they introduce leaderboards for all combos, which probably will never happen.
Quote from Boris Lozac :Not giving them a dime until they introduce leaderboards for all combos, which probably will never happen.

Yeah, i don't mind this one so much in particular, but there's just so much poorly done things, some are stuck there since GT1 (start animations), like Kaz is denying all racing games and doing it stubbornly his own way.. and main focus is still adding more cars, total opposite of LFS. Japs...

But still, so far so good for me.
It would be a bit of a waste from my point of view, if it's just a motor way type affair. Bit of a shame to do all that modelling and not have any corners to drive around. Hopefully there's some kind of complex string handling layout too, but I fear the worst.
Damn it, I'm having an absolute blast with GT5.

Throttle balancing does work when oversteer, it's different in terms of timing and extent, but it's there.

On G25 I've turned my FF all the way down to 1, with "power steering" turned on. This minimizes the weird wall of resistance just off centre. The FF doesn't communicate subtle oversteer well like LFS/NKP/iR. When steering back into the the turn (after countersteer) the steering effort goes to zero which is odd. Otherwise it's sufficient.

Different cars handle differently... they really do... and it's fun trying different cars. This is a revelation to me because everything felt dead in previous GT's.

The Infiniti G35 does sort of sound like that. And so does the Mk.1/2 MX5. Good job sampling the sounds.

Yes - this is as good and a better drive than Enthusia.
Enthusia is a better driving sim. It's more realistic.
No, it's not.

Enthusia is great, and far better than most driving games on consoles, but GT5 (even if still not a perfect "sim") is quite a step up in many aspects.

When was the last time you've played enthusia?
About a month ago

I just found the handling much better, drift transitions, simulation of how a open, limited and locked diff, plus it was also the first game I remember to model automatic transmissions properly, as in the slushy-changes. It also had a massive long straight on a never ending bridge, and featured wet weather (and it handles a lot more realistically in the wet than GT5 does) and dirt tracks!
There were loads of cars as well and a good variety of them. I found Enthusia to be more fun..

I'm not saying GT5 is bad just that with a gamepad I think Enthusia is a better sim. With a wheel GT5 is mega but still, for examle the fact all the cars on GT5 have rubbish brakes and you CAN'T UPGRADE THEM (wut)...lacking in many areas. Plus ability to upgrade bodyparts.

Golf Mk5 GTI on GT5 for example, there are no body mods, no racing conversion available, where as you could in real life put the ED30 kit on.
I think GT5 is a better drive than Forza 4. It also has nicer graphics. Forza 4 has more customising options for example tuning and appearance. Enthsuia well it's a bit old but for me in terms of outright simulations it's still up there.
GT5 brakes can lock the wheels whatever tires you put on, and there is no brakefade. What is the value of upgradeable brakes beside some text in your modsheet?
A bodykit I can understand, you see that in the replays, but brakes...?
Enthusia is laggy
Going to go drive them back to back once I get a chance. RWD road cars, no mods. Tsukuba circuit.
Quote from atledreier : What is the value of upgradeable brakes beside some text in your modsheet?
A bodykit I can understand, you see that in the replays, but brakes...?

Using that same argument. What is the value of pretending to drive a fake car which is in essence a bunch of coloured pixels & sound effects?

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