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FGT at Monza, wets or intermediates?
Has anyone got something i can borrow for the DTM champs please! PSN: Pearcy_1991
Quote from pearcy_2k7 :Has anyone got something i can borrow for the DTM champs please! PSN: Pearcy_1991

Just use the Lexus IS-F concept in the Lexus dealership, I haven't bothered with that
Why does the Nascar have soo much downforce?

It just takes 2 eyes to see it clearly doesn't have much downforce IRL.
For the nascar challenge it may actually be easier to make the gears taller. That way you will get less wheelspin. Plus if you go gently on the throttle it will never get sideways. Especially on first gear. I used gear setup I used for daytona but made it even few steps longer. Nordy has few loong straights

I think next I'm going to try the zr1 and viper acr track records in the nordy. Already did the gtr one. Too bad there aren't special prizes for those other two.. Also got the penniless award yesterday
Made a little list of real life nordschleife lap times with cars that are in gt5 (year and specific model the same). Basically the idea is to buy the car, do nothing to it (not even oil change) and take it to the ring. EDIT: using comfort soft tires.

The first list is the lap times from here (link). The 2nd list is the specific car from gt5 which matches at least the year and model. Link.

I haven't yet checked that all times are done in the same track weather conditions etc...There were about 10 cars which had different year. I only included cars that had the exact same year.

All premium cars (P=premium, S=standard) are available from the dealerships in gt5.


Real life laptimes:
7:22.10 Dodge Viper ACR (2009)
7:25.70 Ferrari Enzo
7:26.40 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009)

7:28.00 Ferrari 458 Italia
7:29.03 Nissan GT-R '07
7:38:00 Lexus LFA

7:39.00 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
7:40.00 McLaren Mercedes SLR
7:40.00 Mercedes SLS AMG

7:44:00 Audi R8 V10
7:46.37 Jaguar XJ220 ‘92
7:50.00 BMW M3 CSL ‘03

7:52.00 Ford GT
7:52.00 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 ‘08
7:56.00 Chevrolet Corvette Z06

7:56.73 Honda NSX Type R ‘02
7:59.41 Subaru Impreza WRX STi

8:01.00 Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R
8:05.00 RUF CTR Yellow Bird

8:11.00 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX ‘05
8:18.00 Lexus IS F
8:20.00 Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010

8:22.38 Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R

8:25:00 Jaguar XKR (coupe '99)
8:32.00 BMW Z4 3.0i
8:34.00 Opel Speedster Turbo

8:38.00 Mercedes SL 500
8:38:00 Honda NSX ('97?)
8:39.00 Honda S2000

8:43.00 Honda Integra Type R (DC2)
8:47.00 Honda Civic Type-R (EP3)

8:52:00 Mini Cooper S



Use these specific cars in gt5:

P Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR ‘08
P Ferrari Enzo Ferrari ‘02
P Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) ‘09

P Nissan GT-R ‘07
P Ferrari 458 Italia ‘09
P Lexus LFA ‘10

P Ferrari 430 Scuderia ‘07
S Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren ‘03
P Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG ‘10

P Audi R8 5.2 FSI quattro ‘09
S Jaguar XJ220 ‘92
S BMW M3 CSL ‘03

S Ford Ford GT ‘02
P Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 ‘08
P Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) ‘04

P Honda NSX Type R ‘02
P Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI spec C Type RA ‘05

S Nissan SKYLINE GT-R (R33) ‘95
S RUF CTR “Yellow Bird” ‘87

P Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR ‘05
P Lexus IS F ‘07
P Chevrolet Camaro SS ‘10

S Nissan SKYLINE GT-R (R32) ‘89

S Jaguar XKR Coupe ‘99
P BMW Z4 ‘03
S Opel Speedster Turbo ‘00

S Mercedes-Benz SL 500 (R129) ‘98
S Honda NSX ‘97
S Honda S2000 (EU or US) ‘99

S Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC2) ‘98
S Honda CIVIC TYPE R (EP, EU) ‘01
P MINI COOPER S ‘05


I'm planning to do all these. So far I've done the new zr1, acr viper and the nissan gtr ones. The goal is to go under each time
In other news, the IS-F thing is a ****ing pig to drive... Minolta on a wet 24hr ring was fun, best lap was a 8:01
My GTR time on the ring is 7:23 something, with two minor offs.

NSX R 02' 7:50.5, a pretty on the limit lap I think.

Yellow bird 7:48.2 - note stock tire is sports medium.

Zonda R with racing hard - 6:27.6

gonna try the enzo later.
Quote from Mustafur :Why does the Nascar have soo much downforce?

It just takes 2 eyes to see it clearly doesn't have much downforce IRL.

I guess they did it to make the cars more driveable

The ones in GT5 feel a lot easier to drive than the one I tried in the older public demos! Those ones would spin on a whiff of throttle, and they felt really heavy and hard to turn....
I did the IS-F in 8:09 (Completely stock all aids off but ABS on 1) which is 9 seconds faster then the real life time but i will admit there is a few seconds more i could of got out of that.
try turning ABS off and lowering the brake bias to 2F/2R
Changing the Bias would be a little unfair would it not?
makes it easier (on a g25/27) to keep the brakes from locking without the ABS being on 1
9:12 with a 207 GTi (w/ oil change no aids 2/4 brake bias)
plenty of mistakes but i cbf doing another lap it takes too long lol.
Quote from R3DMAN :makes it easier (on a g25/27) to keep the brakes from locking without the ABS being on 1

im using a controller lol.
okay i have found the most enjoyable car to do the track in.

The C63 AMG, quite a difficult drive keeping it on the track expecially without TC but rewarding.

managed a 8:13

Edit: did it agian 8:03
Some more pictures:









btw anyone needs a nascar? I've got two right now. ^^
Quote from R3DMAN :try turning ABS off and lowering the brake bias to 2F/2R

4f/2r is more logical for sports cars.
Enzo laptime - 7:21.3

the thing has too much front end lift, lost a huge amount of time in the high speed section and generally very hard to put load on the front without some straightline braking, with some more front end aero it can easily shave 4 or 5 seconds off.

and 02 NSX on stock comfort soft - 8:27
Quote from troy :Some more pictures:









btw anyone needs a nascar? I've got two right now. ^^

Gift me one if you have some spare...I don't have one and I need one for one of the stupid challenges.
I want to make babies with my NSX-R :lovies3d:

I'm definately loosing some quality, don't know if it's because im looking at it on a HD telly or because im uploading to picasa... Some other pictures i see look alot clearer than mine do.
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You're probably doing pictures in the wrong mode pearcy, I can't say I notice a loss of quality when uploading to picasa, some pictures turn out a little darker then expected but 95% of them are just fine. CoolColJ posted about it somewhere in this thread, press triangle in photomode change mode to 2 or 3 and the cars look a lot cleaner, you can also change the aspect ratio to 16:9 there so you do your picture in real 1080p resolution.
Quote from Mustafur :I did the IS-F in 8:09 (Completely stock all aids off but ABS on 1) which is 9 seconds faster then the real life time but i will admit there is a few seconds more i could of got out of that.

I think I did a 7:45 or so with it. Didn't check what tires it has. The car drove quite well for a 1600kg lump imho. Did some mistakes in that lap too losing at least 5 seconds. Also tried the lexus LFA and it was faster than the nissan gt-r. Didn't check its tires either.

The zr1 is a beast though! At times I was afraid of going flatout into turns where I earlier had gone flatout without second thoughts in the acr viper. The corvette defenately has enough power as is .

And the viper has just as crappy gearing for nordy as in real life. Watching Tom Coronel hitting the rev limiter for couple of seconds about 20 times during the youtube lap feels awfully familiar now . Especially the first half of the lap you are constantly going into corners and having second thoughts about the gear you've selected. And with such tall gearing the car doesn't want to rotate into the corner which means earlier apex and less speed through the turn. The gearing probably hurts the viper's lap time too compared to the vette.

Anyone have any idea how much is the price of the jag xj220 in the user car dealership? I'm thinking about saving a bit just in case...
Quote from Hyperactive :I think I did a 7:45 or so with it. Didn't check what tires it has. The car drove quite well for a 1600kg lump imho.

Almost identical time here 7:44.8, on default tires which is the sport hard.

It is sporty in a very heavy footed sort of way, you feel the weight is there and it's very stable, but it stills respond to turn in rather sharply.

I guess the real time is done in worse rubber, gonna try once on comfort soft.

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