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y2khippy
S2 licensed
In short..
Start off slow (less powerful cars)
Learn all the new Tracks (do this in the cars you already know)
Learn the new cars in Tracks you already know (Black Wood?)
Be careful of actual racers (faster cars)
Most importantly
HAVE FUN
y2khippy
S2 licensed
Shortend even more

Not Fault - Feature
y2khippy
S2 licensed
I would have joined you but

:color:I had a Migrain and Broncitus and couldnt get outa bed.
:doctor:I had no power at my house so I couldnt turn on my PC
:bluegrab:I someone stole my PC so the whole power thing didnt make much differance
illepallI was so sick I was helucinating to I was actucally looking for my PC in the bath room and wanderd why my chair was flushing.

Seriously
I just didnt know.. it was days ago now...

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y2khippy
S2 licensed
Sinko I'd just like to point out the Irony that you want to heal up for the "GentleFoot" Cup, with your foot so tender and ouchy you need to be gentle with it untill its all healed.

I am assumeing that you cant race due to having a wheel and peddle set up yes.. Try going back to mouse and keyboard.. you might not place but you will still be in it. Who knows there might be a massive pile up and you end up winning. It happened to an Australian Speed Skater in the Olimpics.

Hope you get better soon
y2khippy
S2 licensed
I think the MRT's are easy to drive. I know alot of people think they are twitchy but I have not seen it yet with my set ups. The give the sesation of speed with enugh time to turn it at the right time. I find these a great test car for learning new tracks as they have great breaking due to the low weight and good grip with the slicks.

But seriously all you have to do is find a car you like the feel of and suits your driving style and learn with that car. Just dont try and jump into the bigger beasts as you wont beable to control them. Start slow and work your way up in power.
y2khippy
S2 licensed
When I first started playing about three weeks ago I set up my car with a quick minumun ride height and etc and was driveing around poorly, so I asked for some set up Ideas and the set ups I was given all had a much higher ride height then i would have thought.

Cutting curbs is always dangerous when it comes to flipping the car and now you cant reset on most servers it could mean race over in an instant.

Personally I dont cut any curbs as I flip alot because of it. I have watched alot of fast drivers on alot of tracks (this is how I learn better lines) and see alot of it going on as with only just controlable sliding through corners to keep the speed up. All of this looks far to uncontrolable for me to emulate but I can see in there times why they do it. It also should be said that I have seem others beat their times in nice "Clean" Raceing Lines and that is the style I'd like to use myself.

If a new update improves the game so as to encorrage people to be clean that would be great but just remember that cutting curbs is just takeing the easy way to faster times. The "REAL" drivers are clean and neat all the way.

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y2khippy
S2 licensed
KM Speed has it right..

I downloaded as many MRT skins I could find as I love raceing offline in them and now ALL of my 20 AI drivers have a different skin.. it reminds me on being online again

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y2khippy
S2 licensed
Me I am so not fast enugh to go for gold in Hotlapps

I do use it as a warm up to going off line and getting my mind upto raceing speed.

I also use it to practice tracks I am not to familiar with and tweeking setups that I have no idea what I am doing.

I do profere raceing and if Im not upto speed with everyone else on the track will spectate on the leaders to find the lines and brakeing etc, and then next race after it has started join in when the actual racers are past me so I do not interfere with them at all. The bonus in this is sometimes a massive accedent happens and I end up on the podium.. Bonus, I has actually one once...

For learning.. you really need to spectate other peoples lines once you know the track. its the only way to get your times down. (and practice of course)

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y2khippy
S2 licensed
I totally Agree with you Critical

Its not.. I have seen the same things on S2 that I have seen on Demo.

The only difference is one GP track (+ Reverse) one Rally Cross and three cars. Oh and alot of servers and drivers.

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y2khippy
S2 licensed
Ok

First
If you have are overtakeing on the inside entry to the corner then you have the APEX. You need to be along side the leading car at the entry other wise what ever happens is your fault. You also need to brake harder as you do NOT have a proper line and cannot carry proper corner speed.

Second
If you are overtaken like this at the entry to the corner most people should concede the position and try and attack comming out of the corner by getting greater corner speed out of the corner as you have a better racing line once you concede.

Third
If the person on the outside does not concede and travels with you side by side through the corner you MUST give him room to do so as he has right of way on the exit and you MUST keep your car in close to the inside greatly slowing you down. (you must check your mirrors to see if your apponent is beside or behind, a nice note is if he is not in your rear view mirror he did not conceede and is beside you so you cannot vear the car to the out side of the corner on exit)

F1 is a horrible example of passing due to the extreme amount of downforce, the way it plays havoc with the car behind and forceing only a single racing line with very little room for error. Making passing very rare among the sport.

V8 Super Cars In Australia is also a bad example due to this and the added lack of race craft in the drivers. As aer the V8 Lites and V8 Utes.

DTM racing is a good example, British Touring Car racing (though there seems to be ALOT of contact in the series) Leman (sorry for spelling) Endurance racing is a great example when a Prototype is passing a slower car.

A1GP shows a great mix of these passing attempts but due to lack of experience they usually end up in a CRASH like in here.

Radical Raceing World Series. (unknown proper name)

In Australia there are a nuimber of racing series that show proper raceing.
Aussie Legends Series (Mock bodys on tiny frames running with Large Bike engines.)
Thunder Sport Series (Many different makes or different power with alot of fast track day specific style cars, encluding Radical's)
Cams Production Car Series (Multiple cars or various levels or power and handling, set up in 3X reverse Grids alowing slower cars to set off first, then the medium cars and they are all chased down by the BIGGER engined cars so at the end anyone can win)
Kingswood Raceing is perfect (now under different name)

Motor Bike Raceing.

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y2khippy
S2 licensed
Im in...

Once again that you for the Information.
Its been very useful in navagating the Servers safely.

I've had a spin already and I think I need to learn some cars and tracks.
y2khippy
S2 licensed
A very nice and Informative posting.

Looks like alot of "research" (FUN PLAYING) went on here. But it will be used by myself tomorrow when I upgrade.

Thank you for the information and i am sure this will help alot of people after myself.

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y2khippy
S2 licensed
The Caterham Styled cars are nice but the superlights dont have competition. Instead of having the 4 and 6, I'd look into some of the other superlight track day cars that are out there. The Atom, The Radical and the New Lotus. These in there own little group could realy make an interesting series. They could be set for either road leagel or race. Ie with or without wings and slicks. A V8 Caterham would never keep up with the DTM style cars in S2 but a superlight is quick and nimble in its own right.

I am not suggesting the addition of the other superlights mentioned in the post, nor am I suggesting that this LX8 should be included. I am just makeing the point that the LX4 + LX6 are in a group of there own yet not competitive with each other.
y2khippy
S2 licensed
I have experianced across the board lag earlier tonight on a server.
I joined a race late and everyone was lapping clean with alot of close driving and not touching.

On the next race, out of the 5 people in front of me in the trip to BL first corner 4 disappeared in lag. There was a massive pile up as the people behind didnt know where the front runners cars were on the track.

My speed isnt to fast as I have to travel elseware to find a server that is not a drift server to race but it has been fine (mostly) pre patch.

I am just reporting an event and do not want to blaim this beautifuly crafted work that has been done. I am also linking the topic and OFF topic sections in this post as server lag will show up more in areas where many cars are in the same place at the same time.
y2khippy
S2 licensed
Oh my god..

I cant belive such a little thing could spark such a massive bitch session

Ok Im a Noob (obviously this is my first Post)
But if your doing serious racing and competition racing at that with the leagues then deffenatly No Resets like is now the standard.

This will take alot of the smashers out of the picture and force far more serious racing (though it will mean first courner crashes can be disarsterous)
I am still playing demo style and will be upgrading this week as I have seen that this game is for me. I still roll the car in blackwood (leading up to the streight) and this usually takes me out of the race with the damage it does to my car. I have only once "stupidly" reset with out looking on the map for racers coming behind me and took both of them out due to my rush to finish infront of them.

I also have never seen any of these Cruise Servers (as Im only in Demo) and do not understand the arguments. I also do not understand the argument about looseing your car and having to spend hours racing to get enugh money to get it back..(am I missing parts of the game here?)

That said if you have a problem with the current version, I have seen that small mods have been made in the past and you might wish to ask someone about a resetmod. But if you seriously want to reset with not damage on your car at all, play an arcarde game, as i dont think this is where Live for Speed is heading. Drifting also seems a big part of this game but I think that it is only due to the amount of detail in the set up and phyics engine being used allowing this type of driving.

For demo.. I would like the Reset and keep damage, as alot of people are still learning. Personally I spectate alot of faster drivers to try and pick up their racing lines, brakeing limits and etc. And while doing this I have seen drivers who i deffenatly wouldnt call Noobs (due to their lap times) roll a car due to being just a fraction off their line going into a courner.

I will be practiceing more this week and if i like the patch and where the game is headed I will be buying my S1 license and start learning some more car's, tracks and racing racing styles.
y2khippy
S2 licensed
This is taken directly from the desktop instide home icon under the tips tab.

6.Racing statistics from online play in LFS are only recorded if you have an S1 or S2 license and if you are racing on an S1 or S2 host (not demo).
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