Then I suggest gettnig your line checked out or getting a better ISP, since that one obviously sucks.

I'd be tempted to say your router is acting up. 100ms to a LAN device is enormously huge, it should be <1ms in most cases. Do you use a wireless access point to connect to the router?

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

I'd be tempted to say your router is acting up. 100ms to a LAN device is enormously huge, it should be <1ms in most cases. Do you use a wireless access point to connect to the router?

I use wireless to my laptop yes. The router is a Thomson Alcatel ST780. And i have to say that it is a peice of crap. The strange thing is that i have no connection or speed problems eccept for this game.

Can it be a port forwarding problem or something? its really strange that some pings is correct but most is lost.

I feel like sending a small package of anthrax to my ISP...

You want to be careful about saying such things on the interwebs these days The ping is game independent, so maybe other online games just mask the lag better, dunno If it's easy, I'd borrow a mate's router for a couple of minutes to see if it helps. I don't see port forwarding affecting pings intermittently.

Get a netgear wireless router, 108mpbs wireless adaptor and away you go.

Hi there,

I bought the S2 licence and I can't unlock my demo-version, because lfs can't connect to the master server. I installed the latest version of the game.
I've read this long thread and I can't find a solution for my problem. I've seen many similar probs but the solution which was found was never told, so I put hopefully my tests here:

Ping master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2] mit 32 Bytes Daten:

Antwort von 213.40.20.2: Bytes=32 Zeit=185ms TTL=57
Antwort von 213.40.20.2: Bytes=32 Zeit=310ms TTL=57
Antwort von 213.40.20.2: Bytes=32 Zeit=136ms TTL=57
Antwort von 213.40.20.2: Bytes=32 Zeit=438ms TTL=57

Ping-Statistik für 213.40.20.2:
Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 4, Verloren = 0 (0% Verlust),
Ca. Zeitangaben in Millisek.:
Minimum = 136ms, Maximum = 438ms, Mittelwert = 267ms


Routenverfolgung zu master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2] über maximal 30 Abschnitte:

1 293 ms 101 ms 101 ms 192.168.5.1
2 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
3 151 ms 104 ms 405 ms 217.237.155.210
4 107 ms 103 ms 108 ms 217.5.72.141
5 345 ms 292 ms 109 ms 62.156.138.178
6 212 ms 204 ms 207 ms ae-31-53.ebr1.Berlin1.Level3.net [4.68.108.94]
7 147 ms 204 ms 306 ms ae-1-100.ebr2.Berlin1.Level3.net [4.69.133.174]
8 224 ms 204 ms * ae-3.ebr2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.133.146]
9 102 ms 306 ms 116 ms ae-2.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.133.89]
10 144 ms 307 ms 102 ms ae-1-100.ebr2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.133.86]
11 50 ms 57 ms 50 ms ae-2.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.132.133]
12 316 ms 174 ms 132 ms ae-22-52.car2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.48]
13 156 ms 380 ms 98 ms PACKET-EXCH.car2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.151.98]
14 231 ms * 269 ms loncat01-ge-lon01.core.netline.net.uk [213.40.131.73]
15 176 ms 125 ms 43 ms lfs4.hosted.netline.net.uk [213.40.20.2]

Ablaufverfolgung beendet.

hosts-file
# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
#
# Dies ist eine HOSTS-Beispieldatei, die von Microsoft TCP/IP
# für Windows 2000 verwendet wird.
#
# Diese Datei enthält die Zuordnungen der IP-Adressen zu Hostnamen.
# Jeder Eintrag muss in einer eigenen Zeile stehen. Die IP-
# Adresse sollte in der ersten Spalte gefolgt vom zugehörigen
# Hostnamen stehen.
# Die IP-Adresse und der Hostname müssen durch mindestens ein
# Leerzeichen getrennt sein.
#
# Zusätzliche Kommentare (so wie in dieser Datei) können in
# einzelnen Zeilen oder hinter dem Computernamen eingefügt werden,
# aber müssen mit dem Zeichen '#' eingegeben werden.
#
# Zum Beispiel:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # Quellserver
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x-Clienthost

127.0.0.1 localhost

Thanks for your help.

Edit:
me firewall makes an exception of my lfs...

Can somebody help me please? Please! I will play this game with all possibilities, but I can't. LFS cannot find any internet-connection...

Well for some reason recently LFS will fail at connecting to a server. At 1st it will take ages to download skins, objects ect and then when (and if, most of the time it says it looses connection) I get on the server it lags out and looses connection. Meanwhile The internet, msn, xfire, other games are fine so it cant be the modem.

My results:

test 1

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ping master.liveforspeed.net
Pinging master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=43
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=43
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=43
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=43
Ping statistics for 213.40.20.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 19ms, Maximum = 20ms, Average = 19ms

test 2

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>tracert master.liveforspeed.net
Tracing route to master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 71 ms 99 ms 101 ms api.home [192.168.1.254]
2 11 ms 13 ms 12 ms esr3.sheffield3.broadband.bt.net [217.47.73.142]
3 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.47.73.13
4 31 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.32.96.6
5 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms 217.41.176.1
6 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms 217.41.176.66
7 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.41.176.142
8 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms 217.41.176.54
9 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.47.73.98
10 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms core2-pos1-0.sheffield.ukcore.bt.net [217.32.171.201]
11 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms core2-pos15-0.manchester.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.201.253]
12 22 ms 20 ms 20 ms core2-pos0-1-5-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.204.197]
13 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms transit2-gig9-0-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.17.82]
14 19 ms 20 ms 22 ms t2c2-ge13-0-0.uk-eal.eu.bt.net [166.49.168.53]
15 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms 195.50.91.161
16 19 ms 19 ms 28 ms ae-32-56.ebr2.London2.Level3.net [4.68.117.190]
17 26 ms 22 ms 21 ms ae-1-100.ebr2.London2.Level3.net [4.69.132.122]
18 25 ms 21 ms 32 ms ae-2.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.132.146]
19 21 ms 24 ms 22 ms PACKET-EXCH.car2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.151.98]
20 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms PACKET-EXCH.car2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.151.98]
21 19 ms 19 ms 21 ms loncat01-ge-lon01.core.netline.net.uk [213.40.131.73]
22 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms lfs4.hosted.netline.net.uk [213.40.20.2]
Trace complete.

Thanks for the help.

Ryan.

i am curious; can you try to reinstall LFS to a new folder (so you leave your current one untouched) and see if you can then connect as usual?

Quote from Victor :

i am curious; can you try to reinstall LFS to a new folder (so you leave your current one untouched) and see if you can then connect as usual?

thanks for the quick reply Im just downloading it now so ill post up results in about 5mins (600+ kbs = win :P)

EDIT

Just tried it and the same again. I also forgot to mention but it takes ages to complete the list of hosts and many no replys.

Test 1

Quote :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrateur>ping master.liveforspeed.net

Envoi d'une requête 'ping' sur master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2] avec 32 oct
ets de données :

Réponse de 213.40.20.2 : octets=32 temps=110 ms TTL=45
Réponse de 213.40.20.2 : octets=32 temps=117 ms TTL=45
Réponse de 213.40.20.2 : octets=32 temps=125 ms TTL=45
Réponse de 213.40.20.2 : octets=32 temps=123 ms TTL=45

Statistiques Ping pour 213.40.20.2:
Paquets : envoyés = 4, reçus = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),
Durée approximative des boucles en millisecondes :
Minimum = 110ms, Maximum = 125ms, Moyenne = 118ms

Test 2

Quote :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrateur>tracert master.liveforspeed.net

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2]
avec un maximum de 30 sauts :

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 8 ms 11 ms 9 ms m0n0wall.local [192.168.4.1]
3 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms 236-33.cgocable.ca [24.226.236.33]
4 20 ms 72 ms 69 ms 172.18.16.1
5 30 ms 78 ms 33 ms 172.30.13.1
6 30 ms 39 ms 39 ms 172.30.9.234
7 47 ms 72 ms 37 ms if-13-21.icore1.MTT-Montreal.as6453.net [206.82.
135.49]
8 28 ms 30 ms 35 ms if-2-0-0-29.mcore4.MTT-Montreal.as6453.net [216.
6.115.69]
9 44 ms 54 ms 89 ms if-3-0.core2.NTO-NewYork.as6453.net [216.6.115.2
2]
10 44 ms 123 ms 41 ms Vlan13.icore1.NTO-NewYork.as6453.net [216.6.97.6
]
11 38 ms 106 ms 39 ms ix-6-1.icore1.NTO-NewYork.as6453.net [216.6.97.2
2]
12 39 ms 67 ms 52 ms vlan79.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.16.126]
13 39 ms 50 ms 50 ms ae-71-71.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.69]

14 121 ms 129 ms 105 ms ae-42-42.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.137.69]
15 105 ms 110 ms 108 ms ae-22-52.car2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.48]
16 107 ms 113 ms 110 ms PACKET-EXCH.car2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.151
.98]
17 125 ms 119 ms 123 ms loncat01-ge-lon01.core.netline.net.uk [213.40.13
1.73]
18 114 ms 132 ms 108 ms lfs4.hosted.netline.net.uk [213.40.20.2]

Itinéraire déterminé.

Hosts file is empty, I tried when disabling the firewall, nothing does it. LFS have been freshly installed about 10 minutes ago.

Anyone? Could it be my ISP? And what exactly is he blocking that disallows me to reach Master Server?

Well there's nothing wrong with your ping and tracert, so it has be a firewall / AIO antivirus / router / host file related issue (cancel as confirmed). I suppose it's possible, although very unlikely that your ISP could have blocked some port ranges. Your ISP should have no problems telling you what they block if you call and ask them, but I'd be surprised if the answer wasn't 'we don't block anything'.

Contacted my ISP. We'll see what he come up with.

Heres the results

test 1
Pinging master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

test 2
Ping statistics for 213.40.20.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

Tracing route to master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dslrouter.westell.com [192.168.1.1]

I checked it the version its LFS S2 ALPHA 0.5V

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Dion>ping master.liveforspeed.net

Pinging master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=49
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=49
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=106ms TTL=49
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=106ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 213.40.20.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 105ms, Maximum = 107ms, Average = 106ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Dion>

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Dion>ping master.liveforspeed.net
Pinging master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=49
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=49
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=106ms TTL=49
Reply from 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 time=106ms TTL=49
Ping statistics for 213.40.20.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 105ms, Maximum = 107ms, Average = 106ms
C:\Documents and Settings\Dion>

Quote from DKKen :

I checked it the version its LFS S2 ALPHA 0.5V

That is possibly why then. Patch V is outdated now. The current version is 0.5z. It may be unrelated but that is an old version you have there.

Desde hace un tiempo los usuarios de fibertel tenemos problemas de conexion,por favor si alguien puede que nos ayude gracias.
[url="http://www.FIBERTEL:COM:AR"]WWW.FIBERTEL:COM:AR[/url]
ARGENTINA

Haciendo ping a master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2] con 32 bytes de datos:

Respuesta desde 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 tiempo=241ms TTL=50
Respuesta desde 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 tiempo=244ms TTL=50
Respuesta desde 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 tiempo=243ms TTL=50
Respuesta desde 213.40.20.2: bytes=32 tiempo=248ms TTL=50

Estad¡sticas de ping para 213.40.20.2:
Paquetes: enviados = 4, recibidos = 4, perdidos = 0
(0% perdidos),
Tiempos aproximados de ida y vuelta en milisegundos:
M¡nimo = 241ms, M ximo = 248ms, Media = 244ms

Traza a la direcci¢n master.liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2]
sobre un m ximo de 30 saltos:

1 4 ms 5 ms 5 ms 192.168.1.1
2 15 ms 13 ms 12 ms 1-150-18-190.fibertel.com.ar [190.18.150.1]
3 * * * Tiempo de espera agotado para esta solicitud.
4

i have this version: LFS S2 ALPHA 0.5Q
is this version ok ? or it isn't supported anymore?

Not supported anymore. You need Version Z or higher.

Hi I know that I'm only a demo racer but I was very fond of your game, but since I've instaled Vista I cant play.

I have a Wireless router Thomson 585 v6, and I can play i any pc that its conected to my net but I cant i play in this PC that is conected to the router.

When playing I can see the List of Hosts but when i try to conect to one I get this message:



I did what you suggested on the first page and here are the results:



Help this poor demo racer.

Thanks in advance

Guys I have a little problem yesterday I have bought T-Mobile BroadBand 3G and the problem is when I connect to the server everything is normal but after few secounds the Lag counting is comming and cars disappear my lag bar is stable any advice???

hi I did what the beginning of this thread says. But everything looks like it works: see attachments

also I checked my username and gamepassword and this is correct

I keep getting the message ingame that the master server is not reachable and I must check my firewall and the 2 other things (server not reachable because of my isp and master server is not working)

is this because I am trying to unlock it in trinidad, I have downloaded the newest version and i have S2

can somebody please help me