Don't worry. I think the problem is more you appear to have seen the word LAG and assumed it means something different than the context it is used here. We do not mean there will be an effect on your net connection or that it will effect your FPS.
The CPU power required to play the animation of the arm moving is tiny and will not slow down anything at all.
Most people that have questioned what we are talking about say, whats the prob. Just play the animation when you press the gear change button. Yep that is simple and easy to do.
The trouble is that when you press the button the gear changes but then the animation will start. So you will feel all the effects of the gear change and after that has happened you will watch the arm reach for the gearstick and change the gear.
The situation is worse for those of us with H shifters because we will move our arms to the shifter, change gear and as our arms move back to the wheel the drivers arms on screen will be moving to the gear stick.
By lag me just mean the animation of the driver changing the gear will happen AFTER the gear has changed.
Does that help
I didnt. The Skyline is RWD (In most formats anyway) and is a very popular drift car. And one the whole drifters DO like Turbo cars.
The Skyline might be a good car, I never said it wasn't, but it gained the name Clit (See earlier post) because of the people it attracts.
I Never said the EVO and WRX were drift cars, I just said that the Skyline, WRX and EVO all have a VERY VERY bad reputation because of the people they attract. You see one on the road and 90% of the time you know it will be some wanabe street racer/drifter cnut behind the wheel.
The "general public" does not care if these poeple are drifters or street racers, they see them all the same. A bunch of cnuts with no respect for other people putting other peoples lives at risks.
Don't worry. I have been writing code for 30 years. I don't even deal with GUI's any more, prefer to work below that level. Because of it I can be very terse and direct with my words. Easy to read what I posted in many ways when I look back at it lol
That is what I am saying. The morons on the road acting like gits is what has given the sport of drifting a bad name. They are the cause of the problems and WHY there is the friction.
For many they hear drift and they just think about the hoons they see around them. Many would not even know that D1GP and the like exist. For them drift = cnuts on he street killing people. Is that hard to understand?
I assume you just saw the name the Skyline has gained and as you have one took offense. Sorry but you have to admit that cars like the Skyline, WRX and Evo attract the wrong sort. Not all owners are like that but that does not matter when it comes to reputation does it, all owners gain the reputation. Does not matter if its fair, thats how society works I am afraid.
Again, it was not a put down it was saying WHY it is popular because to many it is more easy to get into than an 8 hour enduro race.
I can enjoy watching a good battle or just a good solo drift, as I stated. You have to admit though that the "public face" many see IS the problem and why drift has gained a bad rep. Just like the Skyline for many has a bad rep. Not the cars fault but that is how sterotypes work
It will change but its a new sport and this always happens. I was snowboarding from very early days and you should have seen the shite I experienced on the mountain because the association with the majority of boarders which were as much a bunch of young cnuts with no respect for other as the street are racers today.
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I am not a fan of drifting and hate its most visible face, the rice boy street race/drift cnuts. Here the Skyline has the name of clit, because every cnut has one
That said, watching people who know what they are doing in a close twin can be great to watch, in short doses.
The reason it is popular and the fasting growing motorsport at the moment is simple, twin battles are short bite sized things that appeal the the short attention span of the MTV generation. To the Y generation something like the 8 hour marvel that is Bathurst is just too long for them, they need the quick fix instant gratification that something like drift gives.
Is it really that hard to understand
That said, watching people who know what they are doing in a close twin can be great to watch, in short doses.
The reason it is popular and the fasting growing motorsport at the moment is simple, twin battles are short bite sized things that appeal the the short attention span of the MTV generation. To the Y generation something like the 8 hour marvel that is Bathurst is just too long for them, they need the quick fix instant gratification that something like drift gives.
Is it really that hard to understand
Its not people don't want it its more working out how to make it happen when you change the gears and not after you change the gear, otherwise it looks a little daft.
There will be lag between when you change and when the virtual driver changes gear, Its how to minimise that lag.
Most techniques require prediction of when a change is most likely but then this creates situations where the driver will reach for the stick when gear change is not required.
Just use XP and then disable the services you do not require. These will then not load and you will have a lean mean fighting machine
Sorry but was the way you were talking.
Yep, the world has started filling up with the idiot boy racers. Here in NZ we have just as many. Just done a road trip up north and had too many people sit 3mm from bumper down hill with blind corners.
Short fuse day
Because if you really do push a car and try to hold the edge of grip on public roads and only have one hand on the wheel that is more than just the problem of the driver.
If you can't see the the risk then you are stupid.
I have said before elsewhere
Track = safe(ish) with sand traps and crash barriers, no traffic coming at you on blind corners.
Road = dead people.
The person in question sounds like this is what he does on public roads. People need to grow up and if you want to push a car GO ON THE TRACK.
Yes racing is about "calculated risk". Driving one handed at speed does not help you win a race BTW, it helps you crash.
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Please don't say your seat is also low so you can only just see over the dash and your arms are at full reach as well just to hold the wheel.
If you actually really do push your car and only have one hand on the wheel you are asking for a MAJOR smash.
Guess its your life you are playing with. Just hope you don't kill someone that has nothing to do with your stupidity
Because this is not cartoon but a race simulation and if you han not noticed drivers normally hold the wheel when they do not need to change gear because they need to control the car.
*sigh*
Why are there so many STUPID PEOPLE that have no understanding of what words actually mean mean
All lag means is that an expected action occurs LATER than expected. Go and look it up.
Is that so hard to understand. When we say the animation will lag it means the animation will happen AFTER the gear has changed. You will change gear and then you will see the driver change gear.
We do not mean it will effect FPS, net connections or ANYTHING ELSE.
Why are there so many STUPID PEOPLE that have no understanding of what words actually mean mean
All lag means is that an expected action occurs LATER than expected. Go and look it up.
Is that so hard to understand. When we say the animation will lag it means the animation will happen AFTER the gear has changed. You will change gear and then you will see the driver change gear.
We do not mean it will effect FPS, net connections or ANYTHING ELSE.
I hate to ask but did you just read the first couple of posts and then post your huge post of wisdom.
It has been shown in this thread WHY the animation lags and there is even a timeline showing WHY the animation lags. If you have gone through the thread and still fail to understand you are a lost cause.
Please rewind to page one and read ALL of the posts. If you still need to ask please feel free so we can see the level of your stupidity and know how slowly we neeed to talk so that you can see.
Because the car might be geared to not require a change in a corner and you will then see the driver reach for the gears every time in that corner when the gears will not change
The only problem here is if you clutch kick because you will see the hand reach for the shifter each time.
It would also need subtle things like if you are in say the last 100M of a corner the hand should stay on the stick for something like 1 second after a downshift otherwise it will look stupid as you bang down the gears. Keeping the hand on the stick would look more realistic.
Not sure about you but whenever I watch this film I find myself humming that song that is always in the background for weeks
Must watch this again soon, not seen it in many years now
I guess its triggered by all the bitching that occurs whenever there is a physics change that closes physics exploits that people used
For then it becomes harder because the "cheats" (Read flat shifts etc) no longer work. Same happened when tyre heat came in and for all the people that pushed tyres too hard it became harder.
But yep, if you know how to really drive properly it becomes easier because it feels more natural
TBH I have never really changed a single aspect of my driving for physics changes. I know I drive right, which slows me down compared to people that exploit physics holes, but then after each patch I gain on them
For me the big tell is when you step outside of the grip limits of the tyre. Are what happens when you push beyond the boundary right and repeatable every time you try.
Not many "sims" are tbh.
For me its LFS, RBR and NKP (Although NKP should be considered a joke until they start to support it. All bugs and no dev support)
Many rate NR2k3 but is never did anything for me.
Not many "sims" are tbh.
For me its LFS, RBR and NKP (Although NKP should be considered a joke until they start to support it. All bugs and no dev support)
Many rate NR2k3 but is never did anything for me.
Yep Brazil. Great film
Almost forgot... IMDB link http://www.imdb.com/find?q=bra ... p;sourceid=mozilla-search
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Nope.
It is a real cult classic film. Only clue I will give. Anyone that has seen the film will spot in instantly
I HAVE.
Look at the timeline I posted.
If you dont understand how to read it. One side shows my actions and the other shows the virtual driver actions. The actions are listed when they happen. When there is an action in both sides on the same line it means they happen at the same time. If only one side has an action it means nothing happens in the other side while the action occurs.
Hopefully you will now understand what we have been talking about. You should NOW be able to see that the driver animations LAGS the real drivers actions.
I even edited the timeline to show the event that triggers the animation.
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