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STROBE
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A few unashamedly touristy snaps from me, which will all be rubbish because they were taken on a rubbish Sony, and everyone knows the only good thing Sony makes is the playstation.

One of the more interesting show gardens at the Chelsea Flower Show



A quick'n'dirty destauration job of some, err, blue flowers (as you can tell, I'm a f*cking genius when it comes to gardening)



No surprises, Canary Wharf



Doesn't even really need explaining, does it?



Because Canons are better than my rubbish Sony, I didn't take this shot handheld at night after a few beers and the rubbish built-in image stabilisation certainly didn't help it come out superbly sharp at 1/4s exposure


And looking back the other way, at the National Gallery
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Quote from JO53PHS :So I go to the Sony shop, just because I happen to have an hour to kill in a town with a Sony shop...

They have the a350 on display, and sure enough.. the man takes it from the cabinet, puts in the battery, and hands it to me. I switch it on, and a lovely message greets me "Battery exhausted". :rolleyes:

And then he tells me that's the only battery he has :doh:

And then he goes on to give me the brochure for the a200, but I only realise this once I am on the way home. :doh::doh::doh:

Silly salesman.

Sounds to me like you went to a Sony Centre. That's your first mistake.

Sony Centres are, in fact, not part of Sony at all. They're all private franchises, and while some might be brilliant (although I admit, based also on my own experiences, this is highly unlikely), it's also possible for them to be utter shite. Find an independent camera shop or even a decent sized dept store and have a play there. Sony Centre staff have zero expertise or knowledge about their products, they tend to be pure salesmen. As such, whenever I happen to find myself in a Sony Centre, I consume as much time as possible and get them as excited as possible ("Have you got an A900, CZ24-70 lens and the 900's vertical grip in stock? I'm itching to buy one"), then saunter out having "changed" your mind.

Quote from james12s :this is why you shouldnt by sony stuff really lol bacause even their salesmen are idiots

the only good thing sony make is the playstation.

although canon are better...

Well, thanks for your pearls of wisdom on this topic. Obviously, everyone should go and buy a Canon. :rolleyes:
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Quote from JO53PHS :Do you think THIS is good value for money. It's a rip at £529, but Dell Business can do it including VAT and Shipping for £416 . I've read a few reviews and this seems to be a good camera. I was also drawn to it because it was the highest rated in the £350-500 range in a list of 2309230* DSLRs

As an A700 owner I may be biased, but as mentioned above, there's so little to differentiate image quality between most cameras that it really comes down to ergonomics, lens selection, and personal preference. The Sony ergonomics are carried over from Minolta, and are simply superb. I've used Canons and Nikons since adopting the Sony DSLRs, and while they have their merits, I've instantly hated their ergonomics. So a vote here for the Sony.

Also depends on what you like to do. Stick a high quality wide-ish lens on that A350, keep the ISO low for bright days, and you'll get some remarkably crisp, sharp, detailed images, with an IQ arguably superior to any other APS-C camera. But if your idea of photography is arty, low light shots with high ISO, or sports and fast moving things, then I'd steer you towards a Canikon.

Quote from SamH :I wouldn't have much faith in it working if I dropped it or got it wet (and it rains buttloads where I live). Perhaps that's because it's very light, I dunno.. it just felt very "consumer level" and not all that sturdy.

That's because it is consumer level, and it is plastic. Like most camera families, if you want all-alloy construction you need to move up to the A700/40D tier.

Don't be deceived by plastic bodies though. I once dropped my Sony A100 from neck height onto a concrete carpark floor. Lens was twisted on the mount, one of the shoulder dials was badly scuffed, but after removing and reattaching the lens, it was fine. I was astounded that such a seemingly flimsy plastic body could withstand such a sharp impact, and remember it has a moveable image sensor for image stabilisation, which survived too.
STROBE
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Lovely portraits - he does have an interesting face and you've captured the detail wonderfully. In the last one I'd prefer to have a touch more depth of field - it's nicely focussed but the thin plane of focus is a bit distracting. Still great though.

Like the gumball shots too. The processing you used works really well on most of them, giving them a very vivid look - which let's face it, is what you want for photos of occasions like that.

@ Sam, earlier: cheers. It's from Beadnell on the Northumbrian coast. I just need to work out why exporting it to jpg with sRGB colour profile is losing so much richness in colour (especially greens) compared to the on-screen version within Lightroom - never noticed that happening before. :/
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Quote from teaz-R :Couple of artsy photos of my wheel from last night.

Although I have immense respect for your skinning and design skills, I'm afraid these photos are, for want of a more polite way of putting it, junk.

As Quiksilver put it, being poorly composed with no focal point and no lighting and poor focus does not make them "artsy".

As a professional photographer, you'd know that digital noise is to be avoided at all costs, and your best option with a static subject would've been to tripod it, use low ISO for a clean image and then apply a filter in photoshop to recreate film grain. I used to have a Sony A100 and they are wonderful cameras (wish I still had mine for landscapes - the low ISO quality plus the very weak AA filter on the A100 produces amazingly crisp results), but they are absolute noise monsters at high ISO - and it's not "nice" noise either.

Sorry to be so negative (hey, the third shot of the pedal is better), but I know fine well what talent you have with graphics and art and design, and I'm quite sure you can produce a much better stylised, "moody" photograph of a G25 than these.
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Quote from Migz :Not at all, i dont know where that is :/ Although some people have said since i asked.

Ah, right. I thought it was a pretty iconic structure that anyone would be able to place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne_Bridge

But then I noticed where you're from, so I'll let you off if you send us some of your continental weather.
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Quote from Migz :Those are pretty sexy Can i ask where they were taken?

Thanks. Is that a trick question though?
Quote from SilverArrows77 :oh look, its a baby Syndey Harbour Bridge how cute lol

F*ck off

hehe thanks for the comments though, I imagine it is a very different setting to it's big brother in Sydney. Colder and less glamorous! Didn't think I was going to be standing there so long waiting for the light to fade - was bloody freezing when I finally left!

Quote from (SaM) :For the kitchen, have you also thought of having that one print in true black and white (no blueish tint) and having 2 smaller close up detail shots to go with it? I always liked those combinations with several smaller detailed prints which add to the value of the master print. Kinda gives it an artsy fartsy museum gallery touch.

Hmm, no I hadn't thought of that, but cheers for the suggestion - might look into it.

The colours in the colour images are basically natural - just slight boosts to the vibrance and contrast, but nothing dramatic or distorting.
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Popped out tonight and took a few snaps. Didn't go far though as am still recovering from a knee op - the car was always close by.


Sony A700 & Tamron 17-50/2.8 @ 30mm, f/8, 6s, ISO 100


Sony A700 & Tamron 17-50/2.8 @ 17mm, f/8, 10s, ISO 100

And I gave this treatment to the first one, which I quite like. I'm looking for an image to hang in my kitchen (50×70cm), the room is grey and white and neutral in colour, so this might do the trick:



Comments welcome.
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Quote from Migz :Im guessing the image stabisilation is the "Super Steady Shot" switch in the bottom right corner?

Yes. Sony likes to give things really gay names.

Quote from Migz :I have left the camera on auto iso, as i said before i pretty much just leave it on auto, but from now on ill remember not to have over 800 iso during the daytime.

Keep it on manual. Not sure about the A350, but my A700 has the option to specify the ranges of auto ISO - eg you can leave it on auto but restrict it to 100-400 if you're outdoors for the day, or 400 - 3200 if you indoors or in low light.

Quote from Migz :Due to the camera being on auto i cant really choose whats in focus and what isnt, and i dont even know how to change it on this camera but ill have a look through everything for aperature.

Top left shoulder dial, set it to "A". Use the control wheel to change aperture. The camera will calculate the required shutter speed accordingly.

It's all in the manual.

Quote from Migz :Oh and the car isnt mine, its my brothers, ive told him to clean the bloody thing and go for a drive with me so i can take some pictures of it looking nice, but he's a lazy sod haha.

I'd still be more concerned with that crime against style called the bonnet.
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Quote from Migz :Anyways C&C are welcome about my photos.

I don't want to discourage you, but much better results should be possible with a nice shiny car and a Sony A350.
  • Ignoring composition which is always subjective, some of the shots look technically wrong. A couple of them are blurred, presumably due to camera shake and too long an exposure. The A350 has image stabilisation built in - no excuses!
  • One or two other images look way too noisy - as if you've left the camera on auto ISO and it's defaulted to ISO800 or more. The A350 has a lot of megapixels on a small sensor, so it does produce more noise at high ISO. Keep it under ISO400 for daytime shots.
  • Some other shots have part of the car in focus, but other parts blurred. Maybe this was intentional, but I found it distracting - make sure you use a small enough aperture to render the whole car in focus when doing the typical front or rear three-quarters shots. Keep the selective focus for detail shots like when picking out the headlamps.
Keep trying, there's plenty potential there. Just give the car a good wash and wax, and shoot it on a day with good light (I noticed your pics were taken on a typically bright but cloudy/overcast day, resulting in very flat light and blown out highlights everywhere).

PS. I don't know if you've noticed, but VW appear to have mistakenly fitted the wrong bonnet to your Golf - it doesn't fit.
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Quote from Migz :I would normally do that but A) I havent found anything that lets Photoshop read RAW files.

lol wot

Just opened a random .arw file in Photoshop:



In the past you used to be able to download and install the camera raw module separately, but a quick glance at Adobe's website suggests that it's now locked into the product version of Photoshop/Lightroom.
STROBE
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Quote from Migz :I need some help with the post photo stuff :/
I take my photos in the RAW/ARW format. And then i convert them to JPEG's using "Image Data Lightbox SR" which came on a CD which came with my sony camera.
I then convert these photos to a smaller jpeg using another programme.

In the end i have 3 folders.
A RAW folder with my RAW files in.
A RawJpeg folder with my Converted RAW files.
and A Jpeg folder with my converted RawJpeg files.

My RAW's look sexy, but then my RawJpeg's and my Jpeg's look crap, their not very sharp, and are slightly blurred, and its making all of my photos look shite.

Any fixes? Maybe a different programme to use? Or should i just start saving files in Jpeg format rather then RAW?

Fixes? Yep. Avoid Sony's RAW converter. It's shit. For some reason the first version of it, which came with my A100, produced brilliant images (one of the best RAW converters available for the A100's raw files) at the expense of a slow, clunky interface and no batch processing facilities. Later versions, like what was supplied with my A700, are still clunky to use but seem to have shit image quality too.

The best (apparently, this isn't something I've tried with) are SilkyPix and CaptureOne, although I just Adobe's raw converter which is ok for Sony.
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Johnny Corporate - Sunday Shouting (god I have some good memories of this tune... :nod

Taste Xperience - Summersault

Bus Stop - Kung Fu Fighting (oh the cheesy nights out at uni in the late '90s when we were all too hammered on cheap booze to know any better )
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Oh, and I heartily suggest people also follow this:

http://twitter.com/sniffpetrol

Hilarious.
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LMAO @ Brundle on his grid walk, squatting down behind two Brawn mechanics who are kneeling in front of a laptop with a shielded screen which is plugged into the car.

"So what are you guys doing?"

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Quote from Intrepid :Well the fact money can and is be created from thin air might be something to do with . It's called fractional reserve banking

I thought it was called printing presses, which the BoE and Federal Reserve now seem to have resorted to.
STROBE
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Lovely scenes.

Makes me very jealous. Wish we had that kind of light and grand landscapes here!

(EDIT) That second one is superb - and all that empty road! Heaven!
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STROBE
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Quote from Intrepid :It's to do with money being way too cheap to buy!

Correct - well, sorta. Technically I think you meant: "It's to do with money being way too cheap to lend!"

It's nothing to do with the BoE though. Bank A never went to the BoE and caused Bank B to go bust. It's all international. Both Banks A and B were able to take on debt very cheaply courtesy of some countries (like China) having a massive fiscal surplus. They then leant that money to you and I (well, the populace). Then when various insitutions and countries said "hey, we'd like some of this cake we're earning and you're consuming", Bank A & Bank B realised they couldn't repay it because they didn't have it - they had in turn lent it to us to make themselves more money. So the credit taps were turned off, and everyone goes "oh shit".
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Quote from Mackie The Staggie :Ahh yes the evil witch who... took as to war in the Falklands

Wait, that's suddenly a bad thing?
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Quote from Intrepid :On that comment I am going to COMPLETELY disregard everything else you've written because it shows a basic lack of economics and it's history.

Do you believe a central bank setting low interest rates and a fractional reserve banking system is part of a completely unregulated system? Or do you even know what they are? This boom was NOT created by the free market at ALL....I could go on but really what's the point? It's not as if you will actually go out and try and learn about the history of economics and money!

and I will tell you this. It was the free market economists who PREDICTED and WARNED about this bust years ago! Now if the free market caused it why were their leading figures warning of this impending disaster?

Whilst I (shock, horror) agree with you on most things you say here, I think you're completely wrong on this one. Although it's a gross simplification, it's safe to say that a deregulated financial market and phenomenal amounts of greed and short-sightedness in the banking industry are the primary causes of the financial problems.

Anyway, the budget - what a joke. Hugely disappointing.

£15bn of "efficiency savings" in the civil service & public sector? If he can make £15bn of efficiency savings now, why didn't they a decade ago? Or even last year? Or does anyone find themselves reading "£15bn of previous wastage" rather than efficiency savings?

How about openly slashing civil service budgets and freeing the country from the shackled burden of a grotesquely inefficient, wasteful system? How about slashing benefits for the willfully unemployed who refuse to work? How about just resetting the entire damn system so that people know how much things actually cost? There's so many incentives, rebates, tax allowances & credits, and so on, that it's never clear what's what. Of course, if it were simple, we wouldn't need 60,000 staff at the Inland Revenue to work it all out for us.

More fuel duty is a joke. Or to put it another way, petrol is ~29p a litre, plus ~320% tax.

Car scrappage scheme is a joke. You can't artificially sustain an industry producing products that we now can't afford, and it's an environmental disaster.

More tax of fags and booze is no big deal. Too many people already live from paycheque to paycheque, spending every penny inbetween on getting pissed out their minds as soon as they have any money. If it stops more people from doing that, good thing.

50% tax above £150,000 is outrageous. Needless to say it doesn't affect me (I wish!), but if I'd worked hard to be in a position to earn that kind of money, I'd be livid. Half your income going straight to the government! We don't owe the government that much. They waste too much and give too many handouts and serve themselves too much to justify any tax rate like that. It's not just big CEOs and Wall Street type guys that earn that. What about self employed people who have built up a good business? Plenty company directors and senior managers can earn £150k, although now I bet they'll pay themselves £149,999, and good on them.

Over 50s have their ISA cap increased, with everyone else following suit next year. How about just letting everyone do it now? Oh wait, they don't want us to save. Well, they do, because it's us not saving that helped cause the problem, but now they want us to spend to help the economy. Barmy.
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Quote from sam93 :I can watch TV or go on various sites on the internet and stay glued to it for ages, but as soon as I have to do work, I just cant concentrate and go off task. I know there are medical type conditions which cause this, which I have, ADHD.

I think you'll find it's called discipline.

Or rather, lack of.
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Quote from SR BaCkFiRe :but oil-driven cars requires a lot of maintenance too (oil changes, filters, spark plugs, etc.)

Maybe you need to buy a better car. I put fuel in mine, apart from that it needs no attention between each yearly service. So far in five years it has had four oil changes, a new set of spark plugs, and two new tyres. I suggest that this is by no means a "lot" of maintenance. Not in anyone's book.

If you can quote some sources for the various random facts and assertions you're throwing around, then I'll believe it. As it stands, cars do not come anywhere close to producing 70-80% of our greenhouse emissions. I don't know the true percentage, but it's tiny compared to industry, homes, and even cows.
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Quote from mookie427 :this initiative will never work. Why? A G-Whizz costs upwards of £15000. For this to work there needs to be an electric car produced that can happily do 70mph and not need recharging after 40 miles.

Add to this the sheer laughable naivety of the government, thrusting these electric cars on us as a way of solving 'climate change' when they have no idea where the electricity to power the cars comes from - a coal or gas fired power station of course! And by the time the electricity reaches the plugs, going through all the substations and processing and that sort of stuff, it has produced more emissions overall than if you were using a petrol car instead!

Agreed 100%. It's utterly farcical, and to hear Lord Mandelson on the news proclaiming that it's going to be a revolution, makes you wonder whether to laugh or cry at the ineptitude of this government.
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Quote from Mackie The Staggie :Not strictly true, Communism is a political and ideological system in where everyone works for the common good, aka state

In a way, however the focus of this thread has nothing to do with communism, but rather the authoritarian tendancies of our govt. A highly authoritarian government does not make it a communist one.
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