Quote from PMD9409 :

Never thought downloading a patch was that complicated. Maybe now they will just use the patch system to patch their game each year, instead of trying to make us pay for a new one.

this is blizzard. In a couple of years customers will be forced to pay a monthly fee for every map, weapon, customisation.

Quote from Greboth :

Note sure if you are being sarcastic there or not Bose.

Definitely

Quote from sinbad :

Well all I'd say to that is that you don't have to buy it. A new game coming out doesn't dissolve the disc you already own.

You asked why there is so much hate against MW3 that was the answer. I will most probably download the game to play the single player but I won´t give them more then 5€ for that.

Quote from sinbad :

Granted there isn't a great deal different from game to game, but it's cod: a popular game why should they mess around with a lot? That would be like fifa (ea) deciding for the next game that there will be teams of inter galactic aliens in the premier league and you have a romantic back story with one of them. They won't change it much if it keeps selling, but like I said, you don't have to buy each one, especially not at full price.

Well FIFA is also a money-cow but still since MW1 came out (5 years ago?) they upgraded the graphics, the physics, added collision physics, improved the AI.
It also sells millions of copies. It´s still a football game... but it develops.

BF also sells millions of copies and still they changed the game engine at least twice, introduced real destruction, improving that destruction, the ranking system thingy (free of course), the weapon and vehicle upgrades even while keeping balancing in mind, worked on the weapon feel, improved the graphics.
Just to name a few things.

MW... well in MW1 they had dogs in the single player, in MW2 they had dogs in multi player (and the awesome atom bomb), and in MW3 the dogs will even explode... awesome... (btw, I think it´s even still the same model and textures as in MW1).

Nobody bags COD having aliens in the game, but technology improving quickly so is SOME improvement should be made if they want to get 60€ from everyone every year (this year they of course get even more money with the least possible effort).

Fun fact: in 4chan people discovered what is missing in FPS games, the answer was dinosaurs... the first in game thing you see in the BF3 tank trailer is... a dinosaur. Dice just listens what people want to see.

Quote from danowat :

Or religous.....

I doubt that god lives on the earth.

Then again, astronauts are outside the earth.

Quote from Mysho :

I so wish there is not such a person stupid enough to buy this piece of crap.

It would help PC gaming in general, because Activision will understand they need to do something new.

Well actually im pretty happy if they stay where they are... I want to enjoy my gaming experience and not get screamed by little children. Look at the attachment, 13 year olds love MW3 18 year olds love BF3

Quote from sinbad :

It's just a bit of fun though right?

I guess almost everybody will agree with me that modern warfare is fun in a quick game but,

Quote from sinbad :

I I don't really see why people are so against the series.

Have you played the games?? Tell me ONE reason why I should pay 60€ every year for a new story and some new maps. It´s the EXACT same thing over and over and over again.

Dice develops, they look what works and what not, they don´t just throw something on the market like activision. If something isn´t right, they change it even after the release. MW3 will have map packs. BF3 will have them too, but must probably FREE. BF3 has also something like the COD´s Elite thing, but FREE.

When Dice makes something and people complain, they listen to them and change it so that everyone can be happy, Activision just throws something on the marked and if people complain... nvm deal with it.

Every game reviewer site I´ve seen was like BF3: WOAH AWESOME. MW3 yes it´s a nice game... again.... but expect ANYTHING new.

I´m really looking foreword to the release of these games. Let´s see if the kids realise that the cake is a lie.

Quote from CodieMorgan :

Expected does not garuntee anything other than people bringing up useless topics like this one.

the creator of the topic wasn´t bashing he was just asking if we can expect something or not

Quote from cargame.nl :

Yeah, why?

LFS S3 still isn't released
Rfactor2 still isn't released

I see some similarities, nothing more than that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLH_8PxiD5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDyHAoHa1iE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrsILzyYHRQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZWeEoOxKKw

well looks nice, but I wouldn´t make bets on what game will be better

Quote from Mr_Lonely :

what about an progress relese from eric ?? about some content in s3..

its not like (i hope) its only scawen thats working.

eric should have done some pretty good stuff during thees years of completly silence,,

dunno probably also because of:

Quote from John5200 :

If he says "We PLAN to do [insert content here]" and things don´t go as planed or they realise it wouldn´t fit to LFS people will start spamming around like it "was" with the already mentioned S3...

But yes Eric seems to work on S3 content

Quote :

That is quite apart from the fact that Eric is working on S3 content at the moment. I think it is ok for me to say, that he doesn't like being asked to switch from one thing to another. Some people like to switch tasks all the time - I have no choice - but Eric does not like that, he likes to stay focussed on what is is doing. This is sort of "my" patch and I don't think he really wants to be involved. Not that I have asked him - I've already explained above, we don't want to put the hotlaps out of sync. I've gone into a lot of detail how one thing led to another on the road to this patch.

Quote from Cameltoe :

Releases? Oh wait, the ones that was supposed to be released 3 years ago?

^
Scawen already told that this is the reason why they wont talk to us. If he says "We PLAN to do [insert content here]" and things don´t go as planed or they realise it wouldn´t fit to LFS people will start spamming around like it "was" with the already mentioned S3...

And a progress report will be this: "I am still working on the tire physics, because they just won´t act the way I want. Now leave me alone I have to code"

The only thing I don´t understand why he doesn´t release a IMPROVED version of the tire physics. I mean are really THAT many people focusing on hotlaping? I mean he says the physics got a lot better but still has some flaws. Well the current physics also have flaws and I guess that would make most people happy.

Edit: and btw,

Quote from bunder9999 :

z28 to now is roughly 21 months.

We are since x month on 0.6B ^^

Last edited by John5200, Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:31.

Quote from vistaman :

75Hz but nvm.


I still hate it when the FPS drop down from high to low, it gives mili lags when its going up and down. With making a multicore support it wont happen.

As far as I know multicore stuff is insanely hard to make. And even harder to implement in an already existing code. And at 60 frames per second the only thing that could happen would be, that the wheels don´t rotate as blurry as usual.

Quote from sil3ntwar :

Creating a basic building in blender for an assignment.

The problem is that everytime i move the camera my objects move around randomly but then go back in place if i scroll in or out. The 3D model doesnt change as it renders fine its just the 3D view window doesn't like to render it properly when moving about. Anyone come across this before?

I had several times strange visual problems with blender. They appeared randomly even after I stay month with the same build and same graphic card driver. But when they appeared a driver update always fixed it.

Well, I gues the post you mean was THIS... well look at the date

+ 1: swear filter are good
- 1: don´t think developers need to waste their time with that since it is already done via insim
- 1: because you can´t really draw a line of what is a swear word and what not because of different languages. For example a friend of mine got kicked twice because he explained me how to drive a sector the best since the german word for "turn" is "kurve".

rofl

Original text:
"this translation is bad i want my money back"
...56 translations later we get:
"OK."

Quote from TypeRacing :

meh, look at the thread name

S3 has nothing to do with the game engine... S3 just shows what content you are allowed to use. For example the VWS will be available for S1, the updated tire physics will be for demo, S1 and S2.

It won´t be called S3 because it´s finished. It will be called S3 because a new set of content will be available. After S3 is out, the development will not just stop. It´s not even said S3 will be the final stage.

Nobody ever gave a hint that a new game engine will be used.

Quote from hazaky :

I love how everyone says "they must do it" while probably not thinking about how much work it requires.

woooooooooooot you don´t just open the dds folder typing in: change brightness x% + / -

Last edited by John5200, Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:21.

Quote from JJ72 :

those are vertexes, not poly.

damn I always mix them up:doh:

Quote from SHasGO :

and why they must change the engines value? it can keep up!

you know the witchcraft that tells a game how and when to add light and where to put shadows (and even tells the car how many hp´s it has) is called game engine...

and as far as I know this game engine doesn´t support any movable lights, dynamic shadows etc...

and I don´t know if scawen can even programm this since IIRC all the dx stuff was made by someone else

Quote from SHasGO :

But the car have lights :P

Well everybody would like to have some propper night races and rain but the current engine isn´t even made / able to have lights...

And weather... ROFL

So either they make some engine updates or the leave me alone with night.

Quote from JBiturbo :

All i did was replace 2 triangles for a square

Hmmm if you convert 2 triangles to a quad you still have 4 polys. (you have one face instead of 2 and 4 edges instead of 5 but you still have the same poly amount or have I missed something?)

Quote from DevilDare :

DICE have said it will be the other way round this time. PC will be used to all its potential, and console will just have to make do with whatever they are capable of these days.

So no, it wont look the same.

"...would have failed wit ... th looked identical"

In other words, quit whining. The consoles are 5/6 years old, dont expect us to bring down the game on the PC just to cater to you. Thanks, bye.

lol...

I never said the games will look the same. I said they look very similar (look at the ps3 vid it´s the exact same animations, the same models, but with worse shadows, lightning etc) you can still see in the first millisecond: THIS IS BATTLEFIELD 3. That´s what I call very similar. And in the post I mad just after the one you quoted I even confirmed that the pc version looks better.

Sorry if my point wasn´t very clear I just wanted to say that the 360 version would never look "horrid". The difference between ps3 and 360 will be like always very minor. I know this game is made for pc (in fact BF3 is the only game, I know from that has better lightning on pc then on the other versions). And I love that since I love playing on pc and as posted will get the game for pc.

About "all it´s potential". What is all the potential of a pc? There is not the one and only pc that you can squeeze every bit of computing power out of.

And I´m not whining... I´m just saying how it will most probably will be.

Quote from Ki-Men :

this was is readme file before this patch

Nope it was 0.5Z28. He is right (although I don´t know the exact test patch they threw the alpha out)

Quote :

Live for Speed S2 0.5Z28
========================


Welcome to Live for Speed - www.lfs.net


Important :
-----------
This is Live for Speed S2.

Quote from Scawen :

One thing we discussed was the possibility of just calling the software "Live for Speed 0.6A" and forget about the Alpha / Beta tag. It's very stable software so doesn't really need those tags. There are several things that can be improved and added but that is beside the point. I hope that explains a bit more what we are thinking. The version number being less than 1.0 does express that it still has a way to go.

Btw why does it say on lfs.net "S2 6B" and not "S2 0.6B" :/

Last edited by John5200, Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:06.

Quote from Boris Lozac :

And what obvious differences do you see there..

The details. The smoke is a lot more low res, the textures are more low res, pop ups. So typical pc vs console
http://www.pcgames.de/screensh ... ginal/2011/06/PS3shot.jpg
http://www.pcgames.de/screensh ... iginal/2011/06/PCshot.jpg

Last edited by John5200, Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:52.

This is pointless. All games that release on several platforms will always look veeeery similar. I mean this game is called on no platform "Battlefield 2.5", so it will look on every platform very similar.

Another example is crysis 2. It had more potential but they had to limit the PC version because it has to look on every platform similar.

(will get BF3 on pc though because of obvious reasons )

Last edited by John5200, Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:40.

Quote from Bose321 :

True, but they just use several DVD's IF it doesn't fit on one.

that´s my point (for example on forza 3)

Quote from E.Reiljans :

Xbox version will look horrid cause it doesn't supports blurays, limiting to 4.7 GB for all of the textures. :3

CAUGHT: how many pc´s support blurays

Quote from RasmusL :

pic

the pic fails. even the pad is a motion controller and x-box will still promote kinect

Quote from MadCatX :

Now why would console need to run on battery when it needs to be plugged in a TV?

why would a netbook need to run high spec games

If you like to compare a new console that is build only to play games then compare it with a new gamer-pc (which can do a looooooooooooooooot more then just play games way better than any console)

Last edited by John5200, Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:37.