Congrats JayHawk! Nice to see a fellow American get a home! Enjoy!

Another thing you can do is to create some custom tracks by making some chicanes and course diversions in the existing rally courses. I have a couple layouts we used, if you are interested.

Hmm...sounds pretty similar to what the League Of The Americas has already done!

LOTA RallyCross Championship - Winter 2007

Just a note....do NOT include FE RallyX Green.....especially if you want to include pitting.....'cause you can't do it there.

Also....don't plan on anyone running the XRT or the FXO. RB4 AWD FTW!

Has there been anymore development on this, since LFS Stats is no more??

With that attitude, methinks it won't be long before we see "No Longer Welcome" under phoretwenny's forum id....

Since LFS Stats is no longer going to be updated, Live For Stats is currently the only app to gather stats that still seems alive. Stats are a huge part of many leagues, and it would be a shame to have this valuable tool fade.

Please please please say you'll update Live For Stats for InSim v4.

http://setupfield.teaminferno.hu/

Increase tire pressure, decrease camber (on most of those setups), learn as much as you can about the track and car, then start to push.

Do it Jayhawk! Nice bunch of guys over there at LOTF!

Congrats! Nice to see more teams celebrating anniversaries! :balloons: :drink:

Quote from evilgeek :

there seems to be some confusion and/or lack of willingness of pro-oval racers to understand what anti-oval racers are saying, so let me simplify it.

although i obviously can't speak for everyone, i don't think it's fair to say that oval racing requires NO skill, or that that is what anti-ovalists are saying. if that was the case, the finishing order would be completely dependent upon setup (like drag racing) or random (if using the same sets). obviously this is not the case, as the best drivers will tend to win, and drivers who aren't as good will not be able to keep up. it would be silly to claim that skill doesn't matter when cleary it does.

that being said, however, the fact remains that ovals are boring, and that is the real complaint of most people. in a road race, someone who is good at late braking but no so good in other areas can have an exciting race against someone who brakes like a girl but has good rhythm through twisty sections and sweepers. but in an oval race, either you have the small set of skills required or you don't, and once the better drivers start to pull away, there is no catching them unless they crash.

i'd also like to add that everything good about oval racing can also be found in road racing. if you like to drive lap after lap, perfecting your line through 2 or 3 turns, imagine how much more fun it would be to drive lap after lap, perfecting your line through 10 or 15 turns (not to mention perfecting your braking points, and a load of other things!).

No, not fact. Still an opinion. The oval in LFS is certainly a lot less exciting than something that requires braking and more car control in mid-corner. Hopefully, we'll see something like that in LFS soon. But until we do, we have to deal with these continuing misconceptions about oval racing. I think given the right configuration, the skills required on circuit racing (late braking, car control mid-corner, setup, etc.) will be equally important on oval racing.

Hey Boris!

Hmmm...nice changes there Scawen. I wonder if my P4 2.6 & Radeon 9800 will do alright.

Quote from IceMan31x :

Look guys who here has oval experiance? Nobody? Call it what you will thats the joy of opinion, But before you say anything, watch this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=hFXzDVzMPvQ <----thats my sport "COME JOIN" ill be waiting

Motordirex, my family combined (my father, 2 uncles, and myself), has 30+ years of experience of racing on ovals, in karts & stockcars. I am a college educated professional, not a mindless idiot. I don't appreciate your ignorant comments about people who race ovals.

When you have any real world racing experience, please come back on here and comment on how easy (any) racing is.

W11-W16 were InSim changes.

EDIT: Wow....I'm....slow.

Quote from Zachary Zoomy :

I think it would be a bit dull running the FXR for 20+ laps.

Not true....for the XRR at least, and I suspect the FXR would be similar. We've been doing 15 lap races recently while planning our own 100+ lap one-off races, complete with pace cars and caution periods. The drafting you can get with these cars is certainly part of the strategy. A lot of people get into the trend of draft passing every other corner and this usually leads to crashes. We've seen teams of two or three drivers getting together and either bump drafting down the straights or doing planned draft passing to get a time advantage over the rest of the field, and then they fight it out over the last two laps or so.

There are a lot of people that complain that oval racing is boring, but with all of the strategies that play into it like full course cautions and pitting, it really can be a lot of fun.

Relative to the cars, I think once the Patch X comes out that balances the GTR's better, this type of racing will be even more fun with the different cars.

Quote from Nine :

A lot of people carry a tag to show unity, to show organization, to show a sense of an established group of individuals, and that catches the eyes to players who wish to join a team. My message to those irritated about the players creating teams...don't check the team forums, simple as that, don't put yourself in a position where your only going to get frustrated, it's not worth it. I could join or even make a team of a solid six guys, that just like to race, just like to have the tags on, to like being within a team, and not race competively in a league but still gain that sense of friendship within the team, that's a successful team IMO, it's not about having the biggest team, hell, I could have four guys that could easily be out-numbered by the general public in a server, yet we all have a good time what were doing, and of course, advertising a team that only has four members may look in some eyes "pointless" or a "lost cause", but to them, it's a chance to make new friends, and all the posts that are made with a negative fashion towards these guys is basically saying, hey, you can't make friends here, find a group of people that you may/may not like and try and form a connection / friendship with them.

I think the comments you made about what makes a successful team to you are fine. I guess what I was getting at are the posts of teams that add guys that they don't know, only to see the team break up a week later because of that "stranger" factor, or because they got mad when no-one joined. The whole point of a team is to get a few guys together than enjoy racing (or whatever) online and get along. It gives you a sense of belonging to something, rather than just getting on and doing a couple pick-up races and then getting back off. Teams are great because for part of the time you are online together, it's not just about racing.

We had a member of our team that was having major surgery, and through the friendships we've formed on our team and with other teams/drivers, we made up a bit of a get well "card" (more like an image) that everyone "signed" with a get-well comment. That was great, because it had nothing to do with racing. It was all about friendships, even though none of us have ever met in person. I just don't think I would have experienced that if I wasn't on a team the valued our friendships first over racing.

Quote from Bladerunner :

...yet we started 3 years ago when TWO people decided "Lets make an LFS Team!".
Over the years we have grown, matured, and gained experience. The team has changed personnel in this time, some have gone, some have joined, but there has always been the feeling of 'THE TEAM'.

This is exactly how CoRe Racing started. Two drivers started a team out of a group of FPSer's and started racing. I raced with them for a while (about 3 months) and they asked me to join. At that point, there wasn't any website/forums or even skins! Just a group of people enjoying racing with and trusting each other. Just like [dSRC], we've had members come and go, and others go inactive and previously inactive members come back, but there was and still is a feeling of TEAM because we were friends on the track before we were teammates.

Nine, I think some of the frustration you are seeing is because we've seen, time and time again, these young people find one other person (sometimes not even that) and come on here and say "Here's my team". Now, that's fine. I don't have a problem with that. Good luck to them. Where it goes awry is when some of these so-called "forum teams" start accepting members nearly as quickly as they post their interest in joining. No "get to know them", no "let's race on track first". That's risky for an upstart team, because what happens when your new driver goes out and wrecks people and ends up on the Wrecker's Barricade with your team tag on? Your team gets a bad rep, that's what happens.

The other thing that is very frustrating is to see a guy start a team with one other person, and then a week later, when no-one has joined, they shut the team down, and the first guy starts another. These things don't just go from 2 relatively new LFS guys to 15 league championship caliber drivers over night. You have to have patience. You have to work, very hard, at it. I don't like people that bash on those that get the freewebs sites. It may not be the best choice, but give them credit for trying. After we got a couple more members by racing with them a while, CoRe started with a free "Proboards" forum. Not the best choice, but it gave us a place to talk outside of the game. Over two years (as of April 9 ), all that has progressed into 14 members, a hosted website & forums, a Ventrilo server, and two LFS servers, and active membership in the management of a successful league. The last few things came because the members were willing to help work on and help pay, and trusted a single person enough to give them their money to make the payments.

The point of all that is to show that it takes more than a week and hoping that people join your team to make said team a success. The people that love this sim and the community are voicing their opinions because we want to see these team do it the right way, and not simply post up team startup notices that eventually just turn into spam posts and online arguments.

The only thing that I know of is a potentiometer repair kit at Digi-Key. The other stuff I think you are on your own.

Since this is a series test-event, no sign up is required. Get the server and password info from the LOTA thread, and show up! First come, first race.

LOTF = Land Of The Free

CoRe server = www.CoRe-Racing.com

LOTA server = LOTA League Server 1 (racing there tonight)

Bones: so that's where you were. We had some more great (and I mean GREAT) UFR/XFR @ Westhill racing on the CoRe server with the Fluid guys, and Boris Lozac, and a fellow named Matt Blackwood. Great, competitive racing to be had in many servers in EST, Slash.

Gentlefoot, the League Of The Americas just finished it's second FO8 season, and I have one suggestion for you: DO NOT CHOOSE Fern Bay Green!

Other than that, try to choose wide open tracks that provide for plenty of maneuvering room due to the aero-push you get with the FO8.

Track layout:

Quote from Macels :

Not too many Americans play this game from what I gather.. I doubt there would be enough interest..

I'd love to see nurburgring, and my local track, lime rock..

Hmmm....the United States is only the 3rd largest licensed group of LFS drivers in the world: http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=racer_search&whichTab=stats

Get S2, and you'll find many North American drivers online in the evenings over here.

Since our first test event for this possible new series was encouraging and revealed some things to consider, we've decided to host another test event this coming Monday, April 23, 2007. The participating drivers in Test Event #1 recognized some issues and expressed their concerns, and track designer David "Le Kid" Sirois has gone back to the drawing board in an effort to address those concerns!

The next test event, will feature a layout that will be familiar to the Test Event #1 drivers, with some barrier changes, among others. This test event will test a few more series related items:

a) Race Night: We have a poll open to ask what the best day to race is, and Monday is the favorite so far. We'll try Monday to see if it works.

b) Race Duration: The first test event had 12-minute races. Because of the modified layout geared toward less barrier-affected races, we'll be trying 15 minute races this time around.

c) Larger Fields: David has invited some of the racers that competed in his recent LFSQuebec racing league, and his FLOG Racing associate, Frosty St.Clair, has also invited some folks, so we should have a much larger field this time around!

Server Info
Server Name: LOTA League Server 1
Password: See LOTA site for PW.

Race Day Schedule
9:15 PM EST - Server Opens - track loaded for practice
9:45 PM EST - Practice Ends - 5 minute break.
9:50 PM EST - Races start - Three 15-minute races. First race is random start, second and third races are reverse grid.

Please join us to help develop this possible new LOTA series!

For complete series details, please visit the MRT/Karting thread at the LOTA site.

I think the current master server based balancing is done by weight because they already have the weight thing built into the car physics model in the form of passengers. Scawen said that the weight thing is a temporary fix handled by the master server while they work on the more permanent solution in Patch X that will be handled by the program.

Gray and black? Look again.