That was bit of a C style, passing a pointer. It works fine, but in C++ it often customary to do it like this...


If you call it like...
UpdateStruct(mystruct);
...you can think it similar like writing the mystruct inside the function everywhere the it reads 'var'.

It is kind of a reference to a variable (or structure) of type _foo. That is not a pointer and 'var' cannot be an 'empty' reference like pointer can be NULL. So inside the UpdateStruct function you don't have to check if var is null or not because it cannot be kind of 'null'. Otherwise you would need to make it with pointers like (if you want to be safe)...

...and moving stars and constellations on the night sky...and real moon phases and faintly seen milky way and maybe galaxies and planetary nebulae if you turn all the lights off. Oh yeah and meteor showers coming from the right direction at the right time. Occasional random shooting stars if you are lucky...and maybe Santa Claus and his flying reindeers at xmas.

Quote from spacedskunk :

In which case 8800GTS > 8800GT, this graphics card is my choice

Yep, get that one (or similar). I have G92 8800GTS too. It's a damn fast card and for about half the price of Ultra. And it is often faster than Ultra too (except maybe in very high resolutions).

I never buy lot of games. But before I decide to buy, I read what is said in magazines, online articles and forums. If the game still feels good after trying the demo, I go buy it. So I get disappointed very rarely.

In 2007 I didn't buy any games bacause of my old crappy computer, but now with the new system I bought immediately one game: Armed Assault (and Queen's Gambit addon). It's a great game and I recommed it if you want some more realistic action. (It was published in some countries 2006 so not necessarily 2007 game).

Quote from neilmichaelcasey :

so a XFX GeForce 8800GT Alpha Dog XXX 512MB PCI-E is the best choice out of the 3?

What three? I wonder if it is worth paying extra for overclocked card if you can OC it yourself. If you get it for basicly the same price and/or do not know about OCing, then maybe yes.

Quote from spacedskunk :

8800GT > 8800GTS in performance, so yea The Alpha dog XXX definatly the best.

Only if you talk about the old (G80. i.e 320MB or 640MB) GTS versions. The new G92 (512MB) version is faster. It makes no sense getting the old GTS version (at least for the old price). Also getting G80 GTX or ultra is not wise imho. Only 8800s worth at the moment are the G92 ones.

Mmmm...I might have been bit too hasty. It seems to work if I wait a bit while keeping the mouse over the buttons. In Firefox it works bueno.

The host list, if it is bigger than what fits the screen, it cannot be scrolled in IE7 (there is no lift on the side bar, nor any buttons how to see more hosts). The only way to see more host is to select bigger zoom effect (like 400%).

I think too that the gfx card is the only probable weak point. It depends what games you play. If you play LFS only, 8800GT is bit of an overkill. Besides I don't think it is even best bang for the money at the moment. Large demand for 8800 cards (G92 especially) have kept the prices above the recommended prices (at least here). If I was playing LFS only I might get HD3850, which would be enough for many other games too. If you play some new demanding games 8800GT is good. HD3870 is good too as it is much cheaper than 8800gt - especially with smaller screens when it isn't that much slower than 8800gt. 8600gt is not that much more expensive than 8500gt, but still much better (but way slower than 8800gt)

If you use the quality slider in "Adjust image settings with preview" I think it should enable AA if it is maxed (see the rotating nVidia logo). But if you have games wich give very different loads to the gpu you should make game dependant settings.

How I set mine: If you have the normal nvidia driver settings:
- Adjust image settings with preview: Use advanced image settings.
- Manage 3D settings: Live for Speed. Then set the the AA and AF etc settings as needed. AA is easy to spot e.g. if you look at the wind screen wipers in a tin top car.

I think with AI players it is more dependant on the CPU. I have E6750, 8800GTS 512MB (169.21 drivers) and I noticed that the gfx card is not really the slowing component. Changing the gfx card options doesn't have so much effect on the fps count. Especially because I have only 1280x1024 screen the card can handle it fine.

IIRC, even the default nVidia drivers do not have that. I had to download some 'extension' to get that feature.

Try some 3rd party software. See if Speedfan can show it.

Quote from Töki (HUN) :

I would ban all of these members below, for instance. Well, there are more of these....I don't really know how to call them

All??? Why the heck? Is that a joke? For example the german name "fuchs" means just "fox" and "fuchsbau" is "fox nest". And you don't even pronounce them such a way that you would mix them with the english F-word

But to the point...I think it was mentioned somewhere (when you create a new account) that abusive names will be banned/removed.

I went buying a 1200 rev 12cm Noctua case fan. I put it to blow air in low front in the case (the only place where I can put it). There is also the default 12cm case fan blowing air out back of the case just above the gfx card. I can feel the air out, but I cannot say much about the revs as it isn't connected to the mobo (see the first post).

Now the automatic gpu fan control (nvidia control panel) seems to keep the gpu temps in 57/58C, when the revs are the default 36%. So I don't need to manually 'overrev' the gpu fan (I tryed to put it at 60% before). The case temps are now at 41C in idle after 30mins of testing. That is 1C lower than before without the extra case fan AND now even without the nvidia manual gpu fan overrevving. If I would do the gfx card manual fan control, the case temps would drop lower I guess...I need to do more testing in the evening

I wouldn't like to try anything which voids the warranty. I was thinking more like improving the case ventilation if it needs it.

I tryed a digital thermometer which gave 28C high at the case where 5.25 slots are and c 31C under the gfx card at the bottom of the case. Those are air temps when the case is closed.

More interestingly the gpu temps drop 2-3C to 44-45C if I keep the case open. Although it doesn't seem to affect the CPU or mobo temps. This is opposite to my old system which suffered keeping the case open. So I guess it would indicate the case ventilation could be better. I still don't know if the 45C or higher mobo temps is some sort of a risk, but I suspect it is the temperature closer to the gfx card and definately not all around.

Hi

I'm bit worried about the mobo/case temps. I've tryed different apps showing the temps and so far

(cpu/mobo in celsius)
Asus Probe II: 18/43C
Speed fan: 18/43
(system=43, core=43, ambient=39)
core temp: core1/2=26/30
Room temps must be around 21-22C.

I have 120mm case fan, stock C2D fan (case wind tunneled), PSU has 120mm fan.
Asus P5K, E6750, 8800GTS 512MB (default settings)
(the case fan is operated from 5V PSU connector and not through mobo so cannot control the revs)

Last night when updating the OS, the mobo temps went up to 45C, which was enough for AsusProbe to give a warning. Because the CPU temps are so low I suspect it could be the GPU heating the system. I don't know where the mobo sensor is. It could be straight under the gfx card, dunno.

Anyway I tryed download nTune to check the gpu temps and set the fan. In idle the gpu was 61C (auto controlled fan in idle). This was bit high to my taste, so tryed put more revs (60% for a test) and now gpu is 47C after keeping it there for some time. Now the mobo temps are getting down a bit and Asus shows slow decrease and it is now 42C (and seems to stay there).

So What do you say. Should I try to lower the mobo temps some way and what would be a good level. In my old computer the mobo was 10C lower around 33-35C. Also if I keep nTune fans manually set, does it undertand to increase the revs in higher load (playing games) if necessary?

Quote from Riders Motion :

It wasn't delegated to admin the race. I wasn't even supposed to do anything but be a marshall for SimRS. I did tried to save one event, but no one came in time...

Ok ok. Not blaming you for anything...or anybody else...at least not before I know what happened. Besides it will be more productive to fix this that blame other people.

It's just that for other races even the admins/mashalls didn't show up. But even that wouldn't help if sufficient number of racers did not show up. I understood it so that Xeno wasn't even supposted to be in most of the races and there was somebody who was admining the race. This at least to those races which were at bad time for his timezone. ...I could be wrong but that's how I understood it

Yep. I would like to know too.

Maybe it wasn't a good idea to delegate admining of the races to other people. I think we could still patch up some smaller event from this.

Quote from JTbo :

I prefer cutting corners with ovens, so if I just get another one and disassemble electronics of it, then put them to my original oven, so I have SLI oven, then get bit more power to it from somewhere.
Now if that does not fix it, what does?

I have to warn that the speed increase is not double in SLI oven. It is more probably under 50% and some foods do not like it. Besides somewhere in next May there are 3-way SLI ovens coming into market. So I've heard.

If you choose different manufacturer they have technology to make a 4-way Crossfry oven.

Quote from JTbo :

Yes, better insulation should help of course, but sometimes as now it worked fine, but once I used it 2am and then it did not get up to 300 at all

2am!? I know some people get up and go to fridge at night when they get hungry. But you start to bake!!!

Do you have a sound card?

There was almost identical problem in Dead Men Forum, except he got BSOD is every game. It turned out to be the sound card. He had to format Windows to get rid of the problem.

Doesn't Asus boards come anymore with an app called Asus PC Probe? It showed temps, fan revs, voltages.

EDIT: Beaten by few mins

Nice to see someone else likes good quality tracker mods too. Modarchive is one of my favourite sites.

I play mods (IT and XM mainly) with winamp. For rare mod types like used in old games or even C64 SID, I recommend Deliplayer2.

Last edited by Aquilifer, Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:05.

Picture won't do any good. We want a sound sample!

Now start digitising and come back then.

Quote from petercollins :

I know this has been mentioned before, but I personally would love to see the meeting room being used more often.

When I was active in GPL you are into the lobby before going to a race and through that I 'met' many other racers and had a chat often for longer than I would be racing...was great to talk about circuits, cars and race incidents with like-minded people!

It took me probably half a year before I even noticed the button. lol

Quote from petercollins :

In LFS (non-league races) as soon as a race is finished, another one starts and you hardly get a chance to discuss what happened...seems a shame - as LFS is not something I could chat about to my real life friends, it's a shame we couldn't make the meeting room a place for all of us fans to chat?

Come to Dead Men Racing server. The races are normally 12-20 min long and between them there is a slighlty longer pause than other servers. So people can go to toilet, fridge etc without missing the next race. Then you can also chat with bunch of friendly racers. Being slow or fast doesn't matter as long as you race fairly and any member is ready to share a set. (end of self advertisement :tilt

This is sad, because clearly there were players who wanted to race.

It should have been clearly mentioned in what server each race is supposted to be and hosted by whom. Then...this is not only to admins but also racers...if you promise something (list yourself into some event) you should be able to fullfill that promise. I understand that sometimes unexpected things turn up, but then you should inform that as soon as possible - so if a race is postponed admins should report it here. In team races if a racer doesn't show up it can be really bad as the team could be undermanned.

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

Any ideas witch motherboard would run fine on a E6750 and 8800GT (pciE 2.0)

Some P35 board (like Asus P5K or some of it's sister boards). I'm building P5K/E6750/8800GTS-512MB

It's true that you need a good CPU with 8800 or you won't get all out of it. But I don't understand why your 8800 is so much slower than the earlier card. Even if the cpu is holding it back I think 8800 should still be at least as fast as the old one