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Kunos Simulazioni - Assetto Corsa
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Quote from Funnybear :I actually own an e30. Absolutly love it. I've been reading about this game on steam. Is it worth a punt?

I don't want no ISI false sim. I want something that I can take as a spiritual succesor to LFS.

Is this that one?

I am sorely tempted.

If you own a netkar license you should still be able to try the pre alpha with one car and one track. There will always be people who like this and don't like that so I think the only thing you can do is try yourself or take the plunge. In my opinion the 35 Euro are certainly money well spent (at least so far, no multi player yet). There is mostly UI stuff I don't like, I guess we're spoiled with LFS where everything is so straight forward to set up but the actual driving bit I can't get enough of.
Quote from BlueFlame :12C is most definately faster than the 458 though I think.

No doubt. I did a 53.8 at Imola in the 12C in my first 5 laps. I reckon I'll go at least a second a lap quicker in the Mclaren compared to the Ferrari
Quote from The Moose :No doubt. I did a 53.8 at Imola in the 12C in my first 5 laps. I reckon I'll go at least a second a lap quicker in the Mclaren compared to the Ferrari

It's two seconds quicker for me around Magione, which I'm using as an out and out handling circuit.
Got to level 45 on first try, going for Level 100 drift on sunday :P
Quote from atledreier :The Evora is spot on too. I've been in one on track with a friend of mine, and according to him it's spot on in every respect. It feels and drives just like it felt as a passenger, and sounds pretty much right as well. It's my favourite car so far.

Yeah I liked the Evora, it felt, for want of a better expression: substantial, and probably it doesn't do it justice to be giving it only a quick go after the Mclaren, but I can see myself driving the Evora quite a bit.

MP4 has some slightly odd FFB vibration - I thought the bloody "skid effect" had reverted back to "on", but no.

Nice patch, the drift M3 is funny, and Silverstone-proper is much better, shorter configs are a bit pointless sometimes, but saying that the Vallelunga short config could become the new Fern Bay Club, it's a good little track.

Also, check your .cfg files. I had the input lag back and then remembered about the pre-rendered frames thing which seemed to do the trick.
Quote from Funnybear :
I don't want no ISI false sim. I want something that I can take as a spiritual succesor to LFS.

Is this that one?

I am sorely tempted.

We've all been waiting for that, and IMO this is exactly what it is.

When I first tried it the first thing that went through my head was "hm, this feels a lot like LFS in many respects - just more "solid".

The more I drive it (I've only had about 5 or 6 hours on track due to life) the more I realize how much depth there is, more than I even thought initially.
The d1 spec e30m3 is god not just for drifting, I did some comparison laps w/e92m3 @ Imola, changed the setup a bit, semi slicks and 29/31 tyre pressure. Its awesome to drive very natural handling, posted ~the same time as e92m3, 2:03:3x

Also the Z4 got s1 upgrade, must try that in a minute
Quote from Funnybear :I actually own an e30. Absolutly love it. I've been reading about this game on steam. Is it worth a punt?

I don't want no ISI false sim. I want something that I can take as a spiritual succesor to LFS.

Is this that one?

I am sorely tempted.

Yes.

IRacing, rfactor, gtr, netkar , LFS - all a little bit poo in comparison. Harsh, but true ( although netkar and LFS remain the closest rivals to it).
So...
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The Drift version of E30 was just released with the new 0.3 patch. I thought I'd give it a quick try on the new Vallelunga layout, and the good ol' Driftland.

Hope you like it, despite the few mistakes in my driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuOcsDoWxkw
Quote from BlueFlame :12C is most definately faster than the 458 though I think.

Yes, it definitely is. However, outright laptimes don't really mean much for high performance road cars (despite what Top Gear might want you to believe). What would you rather drive: a car with predictable handling, great front-end precision and sublime power delivery or one with a poor front-end, unpredictable high speed handling (ready to spin up that inside wheel even at 100+mph just because of the diff design) and peaky power delivery? Ultimately we may get the chance to race them against each other in AC and most people will pick the 12C simply because it's faster and despite the shortfalls in comparison to the 458. However, given the choice of which to drive a few laps on my own I know which set of keys I'd be picking up.

I really wanted to enjoy driving the 12C (because I think the road car is generally an interesting concept that's been executed well), but even from the first few laps it was clear something is wrong. I hope it's a problem with the simulation (I remain unconvinced that at least one of the systems in the 12C is actually simulated in AC) that can be fixed in future updates.
It was fun "grip driving" the drift E30 @ Imola
Quote from Kristi :The Drift version of E30 was just released with the new 0.3 patch. I thought I'd give it a quick try on the new Vallelunga layout, and the good ol' Driftland.

Hope you like it, despite the few mistakes in my driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuOcsDoWxkw

Good stuff man. What wheel are you using? Any settings recommendations if you on a G25/27?
Quote from jrd.racer :Good stuff man. What wheel are you using? Any settings recommendations if you on a G25/27?

I'm on G25, here are my settings:
Force 90
Filter 0
Damping 12

Kerb 60
Road 30
Slip 5


@McLaren, I tried the car on Silverstone and it's really fun, I don't understand how people get about 1 sec on me in mid sector and 0.2 in 1st sector, but I guess that's up to some practice. I set the car up so it slides a bit (with 4 wheels) in nearly every turn. I just didn't get the feeling most of you describe. I could catch every slide, and the accelerations didn't feel awkard. It's a solid version of 458 Italia, in my opinion.
@amp

Honestly, spend some time with the McLaren.. It felt fun but weird to start with to me, until i realised i was completely over-driving it.

Take it to Mugello, drive it really smooth, start by braking early,let it roll into the corners off the power, really gentle throttle control out of the corners... build up slowly over a few laps. When you drive it like it wants to be driven it handles wonderfully. Overdrive it a tad too much and it's horrible, Keep building it up slowly to its limits and it rewards you with massive laptime improvements and it feels great.

I wasn't sure about the MP4 at all to start with...it felt wrong. After 5 hours with it I'm convinced its one of the best cars in the sim.
Quote from amp88 :Yes, it definitely is. However, outright laptimes don't really mean much for high performance road cars (despite what Top Gear might want you to believe). What would you rather drive: a car with predictable handling, great front-end precision and sublime power delivery or one with a poor front-end, unpredictable high speed handling (ready to spin up that inside wheel even at 100+mph just because of the diff design) and peaky power delivery? Ultimately we may get the chance to race them against each other in AC and most people will pick the 12C simply because it's faster and despite the shortfalls in comparison to the 458. However, given the choice of which to drive a few laps on my own I know which set of keys I'd be picking up.

I really wanted to enjoy driving the 12C (because I think the road car is generally an interesting concept that's been executed well), but even from the first few laps it was clear something is wrong. I hope it's a problem with the simulation (I remain unconvinced that at least one of the systems in the 12C is actually simulated in AC) that can be fixed in future updates.

Actually I feel you could almost say the 458 was the XRR and the 4/12c is more like the FZR in the way that the FZR/McLaren is outright faster and harder to drive but the XRR/458 is easier to drive just as quick but not its not a quicker car outright.
Just fell in love with the MP4-12 and the Zonda. The MP4-12 does feel very similar to the 458, but yet the difference is it feels like its more planted and much more responsive under breaking than the Ferrari. The Zonda is just an outright monster!
Where are the Japanese Drift cars?

And when are we getting a dirft mode setup for the Lotus 49?
Quote from xtraction :Just fell in love with the MP4-4 and the Zonda. The MP4-4 does feel very similar to the 458, but yet the difference is it feels like its more planted and much more responsive under breaking than the Ferrari. The Zonda is just an outright monster!

Well the MP4-4 was an F1 car so I assume you mean the MP4-12c?

Anyways, even on iRacing that car is nice to drive. I bet it's awesome in AC.
Watching people going over fine details, I am beginning to think that the sim has set the bar too high for it's own good. I mean, come on, you know you can't find better overall physics out there. Simulating something as complicated as an automobile (a REAL automobile), well, I don't think it can get significantly better in the next years, given what happens under the hood every moment. I'd say we are approaching reality asymptotically, same goes for graphics.

Content wise, I am semi-dissapointed though, but this is so subjective I am not complaining. Hoping for some cool updates.
Quote from The Moose :@amp

Honestly, spend some time with the McLaren.. It felt fun but weird to start with to me, until i realised i was completely over-driving it.

Take it to Mugello, drive it really smooth, start by braking early,let it roll into the corners off the power, really gentle throttle control out of the corners... build up slowly over a few laps. When you drive it like it wants to be driven it handles wonderfully. Overdrive it a tad too much and it's horrible, Keep building it up slowly to its limits and it rewards you with massive laptime improvements and it feels great.

I wasn't sure about the MP4 at all to start with...it felt wrong. After 5 hours with it I'm convinced its one of the best cars in the sim.

Yeah, Moose... I strongly suspect this it the case driving the car for 1 hour today after work. First, I tried your 458 set, matched my laps with the first few and then realized if I pushed it hard enough I might get close to your time with the 458 at Imola - which I plan to try in the next week. However, that's the closest I've been to the neighborhood of your times in any sim, and I think it's because (humour me) AC rewards driving the cars like real cars for the first time in a sim (!).

So when I took that McLaren out tonight for a short bit, (despite being distracted a lot by the turbos and analyzing what was and was not happening with them) I could see exactly what you're saying - another level of depth. It's not as simple, from a sim-racer standpoint, as it is in other sims - jump in and learn the car in a few mins... there's far more nuance here and that's a good thing.

Looking forward learning more about this sim for sure - bright future ahead. Finally.
Quote from xtraction :Just fell in love with the MP4-4 and the Zonda. The MP4-4 does feel very similar to the 458, but yet the difference is it feels like its more planted and much more responsive under breaking than the Ferrari. The Zonda is just an outright monster!

Quote from BlueFlame :Actually I feel you could almost say the 458 was the XRR and the 4/12c is more like the FZR in the way that the FZR/McLaren is outright faster and harder to drive but the XRR/458 is easier to drive just as quick but not its not a quicker car outright.

That's quite a bad comparision to begin with. I wouldn't compare AC with LFS for sake, but if we take your standpoint, FZR is a lot easier to drive and is more rewarding thus Scavier not being able to balance 3 cars into the same category... The XRR is a lot harder to drive, gotta keep the momentum up with the turbos, gotta be a lot smoother going into the turns and is never gonna get the same pace as a mediocre FZR driver.
Quote from isamu :
And when are we getting a dirft mode setup for the Lotus 49?


Kunos Simulazioni - Assetto Corsa
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