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NetDemon01
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I'm a mechanical engineer and didn't think getting the degree was all that hard. I've never studied medicine but I would think it would be harder. It kind of depends what subjects you're good at though. Engineers are generally well rounded and did good in all subjects growing up, possibly excelling in math and physics. I think medicine would lend itself to science and biology aces. If you aren't good with math then engineering would be very hard. So it really depends on the person to declare which one is hard or not. From my standpoint I'd have to say medicine though.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Quote from ajp71 :
Any evidence of said forces/details on the physics engine or is this just some bullshit you made up?


Use mouselook and stare at the handlebars. The bike doesn't seem to be leaning by countersteering. If I push the leftkey, the handlebars rotate counterclockwise and the bike leans left. If you have a bike in real life and it is standing straight up while your moving, and you turn the handlebars counterclockwise, it will lean to the right. So this game doesn't seem to be steering by natural forces, but by applying a force across the bike above the CG to make it lean. A moving bike will not lean without countersteering.


EDIT: I don't wanna make it seem like I'm completely dogging the game. It is extremely fun so far and I do enjoy it. I'm just trying to state my assumption that it doesn't feel like the steering is natural. It pretty much feels like a version of MotoGP 3 that I had installed on my computer for a few years.
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NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Quote from Shotglass :you mean those gyroscopic forces amn religious people believe in?

Congrats on being the comedian. And no, I wasn't talking about gyroscopic force.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
I don't see whats so difficult about it. I'm on keyboard and turned off all the aides. Turned a 56 second lap after just a few minutes of play. The bike holds itself up with fake forces. I guess I'm just used to mxsimulator.com where the bike will fall over if you arent steering properly at slow speeds. It's certainly got a ways to go before I'm convinced to pay any money for it.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
GeForce 9600 GT
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
I'm familiar with the Mastodon "Blood and Thunder" song. That's actually the only Mastodon song on my ipod so I'm not really familiar with them. Is that an original Mastodon piece or a remake from someone else?
NetDemon01
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Quote from Mazz4200 :
And who the hell is Jimmy Kimmel

He used to co-host The Man Show if that helps any
http://www.searchforvideo.com/img/pod/1163803846240.jpg

After that ended is when I think he got his own talk show.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Inventor 11 is what I've been using for quite a while now. To learn the software I started by attempting to replicate my bicycle. It's a really powerful program. It's great to be able to design something, add forces to it and see what moves, and check it with the stress analysis software.

These pictures are nearly a year old now from my bicycle attempt.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Hmm...you were talking about decreasing pressure so with this statement:
Quote :Pressure reduces the coefficient of friction though, so the tyre now has more grip.

I figured you meant to say "[decreasing]Pressure reduces the coefficient of friction though...."

I guess we are really on different paths. And it would be easiest to assume a certain state of system. How much pressure are we talking? For low pressures, friction and the pressure are directly related, meaning more friction with more pressure, less friction with less pressure.
So to sum it all up as my understanding, our increase in area causes a decrease in pressure. A decrease in pressure causes a decrease in friction.

But I have misread what you wrote ? You really did mean "[increase]Pressure reduces the coefficient of friction" ? I would need this indirect relationship explained. Basically, how much pressure are you talking about?
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Who ever said Friction = force times area?
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Quote from Bob Smith :
Pressure reduces the coefficient of friction though, so the tyre now has more grip.

I'll agree that the coefficient of friction can depend on pressures and temperatures and other aspects of a system. Considering the tire "weight" force, and the equal and opposite normal force, plus the friction force that allows the tire to roll across a surface; a reduced coefficient of friction(along with the unchanged weight/normal force) means the friction force is also reduced.

I don't see how you're figuring a tire has more grip with a smaller coefficient of friction.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Quote from Primoz : Less tread (when you just use it all up on the whole tire, uniformly) will even give you more grip - more surface area...

And learn to write in english dammit, your official language is not engrish.

Pressure = Force/Area

More surface area does not mean more grip. A larger contact area between two surfaces would create more grip, but the pressure between the surfaces is reduced because the force hasn't changed(note equation above for this). The increase in friction generating area is exactly offset by the reduction in pressure. The resulting frictional forces(grip) depend only on the coefficient of friction of the materials and the force holding them together. Now if you increase the force(vehicle weight) as you increased the area to keep the pressure constant, then the increased area would increase the grip between the two surfaces.

Sorry, but my mechanical engineering senior project included machine design that took advantage of a rubber gripper, so I had to clear up that misconception.
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NetDemon01
S2 licensed
For hotlapping it should be invalid. Online however, I see curb cutting all the time. I'm guilty of it too as it is the fastest way around certain tracks. I am all for placing tires in areas to prevent this though.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
I don't have a mountain bike but I do own a bmx and used to race at bmx tracks years ago. Now I mainly stick to attempting flatland tricks. Search bmx flatland on youtube for some demos if you don't know what that is.
Picture of my bike:

It was originally a complete Dyno bike. But the frame was awfully heavy, so I opted for the aluminum Specialized FatBoy y-style frame.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
It really is. I drove S1 entirely on keyboard, back when they had the keyboard steering helps. My times were crap. I knew I had to change controllers to be competitive. After switching to mouse and getting practice, my times easily dropped seconds off my laps. Being able to fully control the throttle and brake make a huge difference. I suppose a keyboarder could be competitive, but it'd be a real challenge. I too use to think that the mouse would be horrible to use.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
From Scawen himself:
Quote :And just to add : the tyre heating and temperature vs grip characteristics on the tyres is not finalised. Those characteristics are too rough an approximation at the moment.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=674302#post674302

And:
Quote :The road supers are supposed to be actual road legal tyres, like track day tyres, not full racing tyres.

The rallycross tyres are real racing tyres, so they do have some good grip on the road. Though they overheat too quickly to be used in most situations on most of the road cars.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=674299#post674299
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Quote from samjh :The only thing you miss with a mouse is progressive throttle and brake control. You're either on or off the brakes and throttle, so that makes it hard to control cars with lots of power and can increase braking distance.

Steering is actually easier with a mouse, especially when catching oversteer and drifting, because you can adjust your steering inputs much quicker with a mouse than with a steering wheel.

Obviously you didnt read the first post on this page. Throttle and brake control can be analog with the mouse too
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Yep, three letter words are searchable. Just obviously not the popular ones like "the" or "and" ect.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Right now I'm addicted MX Simulator
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Quote from kABLiuks :please explain how to use Y axis? or how to enable it?

Sure thing, it is quite easy. Go to the Options menu of LFS. Click on the 'Controls' button. When you're in the controls menu, you'll see two buttons at the top; "mouse/kb" and "wheel/js"

Click "wheel/js" button. Set the Throttle/Brake axes to combined. Now about half way down the screen, you'll see a row of buttons "Buttons 1" "Buttons 2" "CTRL +" "ALT +" "Axes/FF"

Click "Axes/FF" button. Now is where you assign the axes to their function. Click the button that says Steer. Off to the right, there should be a column that says Available Axes. For steering, choose the X axis. Steering is now done by moving the mouse left and right. Now click "Thr/Brk Combined" button. Select the mouse Y axis. Now throttle/brake is done by moving the mouse up and down. Throttle being the top portion of the screen and brake being the lower portion of the screen.

You can set the centre reduction also. This sets a portion of the middle of the screen where neither throttle nor brake are applied. I have mine set on zero though. You can adjust the other sliders until it feels good for you. For reference I have wheel turn at 90 degrees, compensation at 0.72.


Just for a note, in multiplayer and on lfsworld you will have a W next to your name now since you're selecting "wheel/js" option. LFS doesn't detect that you're still using a mouse I guess.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
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NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Well I could almost join the club, except I use a WIRED optical mouse. Oh and the game is still fun for me, even if I do drive with the mouse :-)
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
Mouse works just fine for me. Though I do have mine setup differently than most, using both the X and Y axis, to control steering, brake, and gas all with the mouse axes instead of buttons. I get a fair amount of wins on the CTRA servers and podium most of the time. I think my stats are pretty good for a mouser.

Though if you look at my lfsworld stats, dont be confused. The controller column will say I'm using a wheel, yet I don't even own a wheel. I just have the 'wheel' option selected in LFS to allow both axes of the mouse to be used. Selecting the actual 'mouse' controller only lets you use the mouse for steering, and you're forced to have digital controls on throttle and brake, and you will not be competitive at all with that setup.
NetDemon01
S2 licensed
When you have saved a .doc file, go to that file and right click on it, choose properties. Look at the part that says 'Opens with:' and see what it says. Click the change button and choose MSWord. You might just need to re-associate each file type with a program if for some reason your association got all trashed.
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