your saving 300 per annum on insurance but surely the golf does better mpg and loses that advantage on petrol costs ?
Well, noone denies that Golfs, no matter what engine, are good cars. It's just that with the history that Golfs have in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, they are regarded as Chav Cars.
Being cheap, and available in abundance (Golfs are the most sold type of car in the countries mentioned) and the huge market for mofifications, Golfs became the chav car here.
Well, why does it need to look like a GTI then?
Again, to elaborate: Many chavs here like to pretend their cheap, not so hot hatches are sports cars by adding spoilers, lowering them and adding fart cans, and driving like public roads are racetracks. It's just mimikry.
I for one drive a 55 bhp Polo. I could've gone for a quicker car in my price range, but having to pay 300€/year for tax and insurance, plus good MPG, and being well equipped (pretty much everything's electrical, plus automatic aircon, etc...) was irresistible. I know it's not even remotely "sporty" and I don't pretend it is.
Well, I was referring to "nicer" than a 64 bhp Golf D (note: NOT turbo diesel), if you are after a sportscar. If you just want a reliable and cheap to run car, then it's perfectly fine... Just no need to "ruin" the main upside of being a cheap car by spending a huge amount of money on modifications which's sole purpose is to make the car look like a sports car, which it isn't and never will be.
And just to counter your shot at age and responsibilities: I'm 28, and I too have bills to pay, without getting support by my parents... But my choice of car leaves me with a tad money to spend on other luxuries.
Now, most modified golfs over here are horrible and very tacky, and are cheaply done. Also, it was rather an analogy: to make something "cheap" appear to be a more expensive product, just not as extreme.
Looks are very subjective. Even though I dislike making other Golfs look like GTIs, I do like the look of GTIs, they are very tidy and not overly flamboyant. I personally don't like debadged cars, as I think it does make the front and rear look empty. Also, as debadging doesn't serve any other purpose and making a car look "purrty", I think money can be spend better elsewhere.
My problem isn't with the car itself, but with the fact that that person had the need convince himself and others that his cars was something it actually wasn't.
Additionally, he wasn't exactly "happy" with it, as he mostly saw what it wasn't, and what it couldn't ever be, no matter how much effort he took. On a sidenote, that friend as aged and matured, and spending so much money on that car for those reasons is what he regrets the most in his life.
While I can understand the notion, I don't understand how buying and adding mass produces aftermarket parts make a car personal. Now having a true custom car is different, but just slapping on random parts so it doesn't look stock might make a car unique, but certainly not special.
Also, as I said, over here, GTI lookalikes are nearly as common as stock Golfs, so not really a good choice for individualists.
Nope, Austria. People are allowed to modify cars here
It's not narrow-mindedness, at least not predominatly. It's rather trying to prevent younger ones to spend lots of money on things that are useless in the grand scheme of things...
And a sidenote: I don't dislike you personally, even if you do seem to get a lot of flak in these forums.
Maybe a stupid question now with this subject, but what kind of paint do i need to paint my car flat black?..... with a roller. 
At the end of the day, putting your own personal touch onto a car is quite important imo.
I wouldn't give a monkeys what others think, more so if their view of a ricer is someone who changes bumpers to ones that are manufacturer made anyway.
Yeah what a terrible waste of money. Spending all that money debaging a car. Such a terribly expensive and time consuming modification
Carry on S14 - looking forward to updated pics
It's nice to look back over your own pictures of a car that's had changes, done the same with every car i've owned. It's good to see how much they've changed. Aslong as you don't go sticking mecano spoilers on n shit like that 
I would of sprayed the rocker cover red though, or stuck with silver for all of the bits you sprayed, only my opinion though
I wouldn't give a monkeys what others think, more so if their view of a ricer is someone who changes bumpers to ones that are manufacturer made anyway.
Yeah what a terrible waste of money. Spending all that money debaging a car. Such a terribly expensive and time consuming modification
Carry on S14 - looking forward to updated pics
It's nice to look back over your own pictures of a car that's had changes, done the same with every car i've owned. It's good to see how much they've changed. Aslong as you don't go sticking mecano spoilers on n shit like that I would of sprayed the rocker cover red though, or stuck with silver for all of the bits you sprayed, only my opinion though
er... I don't mean the dealers option of not having the car's name and type on the trunk, but getting rid of the VW badge on the grill. You need to buy a new grill and either modify or buy a new bonnet to get rid of the "circle" cut out for the logo...
Well why drive a car when you can take the bus?
You can like something asthetically and want to aspire to it, he's not putting GTi badges on (I hope), so he's not trying to 'trick' anybody. He's just wanting his TDi to get some TLC in the way the GTi has. Any mods he does, making his TDi look like a GTi won't ever be as bad as people in BMW's putting an ///M badge on a rock 3 series.
He's not going around telling his friends it's a GTi, like the aforementioned people in BMW's will tell people (or want people to believe) that they have an Msport BMW.
why would anyone want their friends to believe they drive something as shameful as a bmw? or a golf for that matter
What do you drive then?
and before you ask... yes its microscopic
Not a man with children in mind then.
no but why would i as a 28 year old bachelor worry about children?
either way id always have 9 month time to buy a secondary car or sell it if it came to that
the only thing i do that the car is rather rubbish for is rc flying
btw by your logic nothing says i want children more than a chaved golf then?
either way id always have 9 month time to buy a secondary car or sell it if it came to that
the only thing i do that the car is rather rubbish for is rc flying
btw by your logic nothing says i want children more than a chaved golf then?
BMW bashing while driving a Toyota. I am disappointed. 
he wont have children coz hes gay.simple as that. probably thats why that awesome mr2.. god...
U mad. It's an MR2 turbo, respect.
I'd rather have that MR2 turbo than my e30 320i, but I can't afford one
i would rather never have a jap car.
Oh well, tastes differ. Yours is quite extreme though
alright alright i take a supra mk4
yes makes total sense i drive an mr2 therefore i must be gay
thanks for the revelation
as for jap cars... im not aware of any other country that has made anything anywhere near as interesting (and affordable) as eg an rx7 fd or an s2000 in recent years
I have no problem with Japanese cars, I'd love a Honda NSX
I don't get the hate for BMW though, they're extremely good cars, which might have something to do with the simple fact that they're the only ones still sticking with RWD except the supercars.
I don't get the hate for BMW though, they're extremely good cars, which might have something to do with the simple fact that they're the only ones still sticking with RWD except the supercars.
Used to love my mr2 turbo. Had to sell when we had a kid
and also the fact about manufacturer's attitude - they don't produce minivans, commercial vehicles, 1.1l crapboxes and other shit noone cares about
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i woudlnt say extremely but yeah
anyway its a combination of things like most of their cars being too mundane (ie the somewhat sporty but still quite comfortable and sensible saloon) the fact that all their cars look the same (if they werent lined up in order and you showed me (or anyone who isnt a total bmw nut) a single car from that picture (minus the suvs) i wouldnt have a ****ing clue which is which http://cdc-img.ibsrv.net/cms/2 ... neup27482099525674495.jpg ) and the fact that almost all german cars are incredibly dull
on top of that the only slightly interesting cars they make (z3 and z4) are made for people half my height and at 184 im not exactly tall either)
but above anything else its the people that drive bmws and if youve ever been on an autobahn youd know exactly what im on about
oh yeah and that:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1598647#post1598647
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