Nothing in this thread is a fact.
Self-reflexive statement FTW.

By efficiency, I mean energy in vs. usable energy out. By economy I simply mean MPG.

Do you mean efficient, or economical?

I just imported it into Virtual dub, used a sharpening filter, cropped all the undesirable stuff out of the image while maintaining the same aspect ratio, and then re-sized to 320x240 and exported to a gif.

A pair of powered studio monitors?

After using ubuntu for a while, I decided to move back to windows. I have a 500GB hard drive with an NTFS partition. I've always used the 500GB drive to store files and my 250GB for installing OSs to. Anyway, the 500GB drive is only 5GB large and has 0bytes free space according to windows. But in reality it has like 100GB free space or so. Has anyone encountered this problem?

I was bored.

Quote from ussbeethoven :

I think he meant sidemarker lights, which are required on cars sold in the US. They aren't that common in Europe.

Yes, I meant these:

Shouldn't the side markers be illuminated when the headlights are on?

The steering wheels of different vehicles in LFS can be steered different amounts.

Quote from george_tsiros :

no wait...

um

it would still tilt to the side, no?

By "it would still tilt to the side" do you mean "it would still roll?" I think the answer would be no, because the forces are acting upon the center of gravity, and the roll center is the point that the center of gravity rotates around. If the two points are equal, then there shouldn't be any body roll, or that's how it would seem to me.

I think that's why many people will install springs that are shorter, because it lowers the center of gravity thus shortening the distance between it and the roll center. Since torque is force x radius, and the force is the same, but the radius is decreased, then the torque acting upon the center of gravity is decreased.

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Quote from tristancliffe :

Stiffening the rear springs to give the required roll rate would work, but then you'd end up with excess ride rate...

So, stiffening the rear springs would reduce roll in the rear, but also affect the longitudinal load transfer (possibly adversely)? Where does the longitudinal load transfer come into handling, anyway? There's alot of talk about lateral load transfer in general, but not much discussion with respect to longitudinal load transfer.

Is an anti roll bar really necessary to make a car handle well? On a car without a rear anti roll bar, wouldn't increasing the (bump?) damping of the rear suspension have the same effect as having a rear anti roll bar?

A friend of mine got a reckless driving ticket for pulling someone on roller blades using his moped. That's how strict cops are where I live. Up to $2500 fine and up to 12 months in jail if you drive recklessly. Also, supposedly you get a day in jail for each MPH over 80mph. So if you're pulled over doing 100mph, you're going to be in jail for 20 days.

What an awesome sport!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OneSDUB_TLE

Quote from tristancliffe :

In real life you correct it about 90% and the 'snap' does the rest...

Unless you're counter-steering too much while it snaps, or don't turn the wheel straight fast enough when it gets traction, then you just start spinning in the opposite direction, right?

Like the Evo at 8sec in this video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1005361050205599754#

Also, why is it so much more difficult to correct oversteer at all in an open-wheeled car in LFS then in road cars? Is it like that in real life too?

I definitely agree about traction loss being too gradual in LFS with respect to what I have experienced in real life. Not too long ago I crashed my car going a bit too fast into a corner. My shock absorbers probably need to be replaced, who knows if that contributed. Anyway, a small bump in a corner caused me to lose traction. But I didn't understeer, the back end of my car just decided to come out. I stupidly slammed the brakes, and then what I ended up doing is over-correcting and spinning the other direction. Then the front end of my car hit the guardrail and the back end of my car swung around and hit the guardrail. It doesn't seem possible to get LFS to act this way in it's current state, though there's no corners like the one I crashed on in LFS.

I live near where that car is! Maybe I'll see it on the road! I can always hope, at least.

Quote from jwardy :

its not that hard

Then get a prescription for Viagra.

Quote from Fuse5 :

excuse the artsy person, but how on earth are you supposed to calculate that force anyway, when you are bound to apply different amounts of forces in different directions when pushing the crank (around, presumably), and not linearily?

Torque = r * F

Somebody call 911 shawty fire burning on the tire yard

Quote from Electric Eye :

Is there a big difference, division between richer and poorer people?

Depends what you mean by difference.

Quote from DevilDare :

Stop trying to bring up needless arguments you idiot......

Anyone else misread that as "needleless"?

Sell it on ebay and say that when you spray it with ammonia the face of Jesus appears on it.

EDIT: As for the paper boat idea, I guess it works: