Quote from spiderbait90 :

Drag and drop the links into your address bar... that way it works.

That'll be it, I clicked on them then refreshed them.

Pity I won't have internetz this weekend, but as StableX said the videos after are great. I love Pikes Peak too!

No prob. For some reason I'm very google savvy.

http://www.autoracingdaily.com ... n_expanded_sebring_field/

Quote :

The last NASCAR driver to win at Sebring was Terry Labonte in 1984 in the GT class.

Here is a highlights video of the race.

And I believe he won in the GTO class in the 1984 24h of Daytona (with Billy Hagan and Gene Felton) in this very car:



http://alex62.typepad.com/imsa ... 6/10/24_hours_of_day.html

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Works here

Quote from tristancliffe :

A fantasic point, and well made.

Basically, in an accident, bits fall off cars. Sometimes people are just unlucky. Like Henry.

+1. It seems obvious now

And I agree, it really is luck that determines what bits fall of a car, where they go and if anything else is there when they arrive.

In a youtube video of the accident someone who works with F2 cars said that if there is a shearing force the wheel comes off really easily, the tether being practically useless. The video was 'Removed by the user' unfortunately, so I suppose this doesn't sound very reliable! I'm sure there is some more info on this somewhere though.

Quote from Jordan2007 :

Open wheeler's i think need a shell going over them for more safety. (Like a classic aeroplane cockpit)

I don't think that'll work. They will need to be easily detatchable for obvious reasons, and they will just fail at the fastening points. And that will be very dangerous if a car rolls over. And think back to the Wurz/Coulthard accident, had there been a structure like that in place it would have just snapped off.

Loads of money has been spent towards making fighter aircraft canopies impact safe with no success.

I shouldn't spoil the surprise with the title, but...Never Gonna Give Your Teen Spirit up

It actually sounds really, really good!

Last edited by Timdpr, Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:16.

Wheel tethers are made of Zylon in F1, F2, IRL and presumably other series that use wheel tethers. It is very strong, but has no give. It stretches much less than steel.

What happens when the wheel gets to the end of the tether is that the energy of the wheel is transferred to the mounting points in an extremly short space of time (same as hitting a wall without a crumple zone to spread the load). In some cases, the wheel will reach the end of the tether positioned so that the wheel twists as the tether reaches limit, but I think that still only partially helps, as we see by the number of times tethers fail. F1 cars have 2 tethers iirc, one shorter than the other. The shorter one takes part of the strain if/when it snaps, leaving the main tether to take the rest. I don't know how it works in F2.

To improve tethers, you could build in a deforming section - either a more elastic section or slipping mounting points, such as they use in seatbelts. Or you could have lots of tethers of varying sizes, so they break in turn and each take some of the impact. Feel free to add more ways!

One question I have is why does the amount of detatched wheels differ so much between F2, F1 and Indycars? They all use the same material as I said, so why are indycars so good at keeping wheels attatched compared to F1, and why is F2 so much worse than F1?

Hope that made sense!

Liking the sig btw Jack

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Cheers

My laptop is just over a year old, and, well, crap. Actually no, it's okay, just not very good for gaming. You can't compare it to a 'proper' computer. Here's a review btw. I picked it up because it was cheap, even now you'd struggle to find it at the price I paid. I got it for around £150 less than it is on the above site.

My 15.4" does 1280x800! Is that really a good thing?

Yeah, what MAGGOT said. If you don't want to type all the code, basically type the words you want, then highlight them and click the 'insert link' button (the one with a picture of the earth and a chain). Then paste in the URL.

F2 cars are supposed to have wheel tethers, so I think there's an issue with them if wheels are flying off that easily. (I don't just mean this incedent, check crashes from the races before.) But this was a freak accident, you can't go around saying Henry was killed because tyres fly off too easily. Of course there are things you could do to the track and the cars to prevent this from happening again, but as it was a freak accident, how likely is it that it'll happen again?

R.I.P Henry Surtees. God that's horrible, 18 is way too young. I haven't been following F2, though I've seen him in other series, but I know he was a very good and very likeable driver, and as someone said, he'd achieved the best result of his motorsport career in the race before. It could have happened to anyone, and while I wouldn't wish this on anyone, I do wish it hadn't happened to him.

Such a high class european single-seater death hasn't happened for years (last one Marco Campos in 1995, correct me if I'm wrong), and a lot of that is down to safety advances. It is quite hard to die in anything other than a freak accident these days, and that is what happened here. I've seen Henry walking around the paddock when he was in Formula Renault, but unfortunately didn't get to talk to him. Now I never will, nor will I get to see him race again.

Again, R.I.P Henry Surtees, and my most heartfelt condolences to his family and friends, including of course John. Just unfair. And 5tag is so right about the irony.



EDIT: Made a quick avatar, feel free to use it/share it etc.

Last edited by Timdpr, Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:20.

How could you miss lolchair?

Please accept my heartfelt condolences Ant, that's horrible, and way too young. I have a friend who has recently experienced a similar loss, but thankfully no one extremely close to me has died so young as your lovely daughter.

The best of luck getting through this troubling time, to you and your family. Don't bottle up your emotions, and remember time will heal, though I'm sure she will stay in your heart forever. R.I.P Tiffany May Watson.

But as Sheepyfun said, do keep your head up as much as is possible.

3rd baby!

But this means I can't take part in the next drag race, and when the next race of any sort comes along I'll be thrashed by maxed out class 1 and 2 cars. Harrumph.

This needs to be pretty big for it to work, and tbh I don't think the conditions are right just now. And if people need to pay, there will be even less competitors. It sounds like quite a good idea, I'll probably try to race if it looks like it wil succeed, but I don't think it will in the near future.

Also, just the words 'Formula One' will be enough to put off a good chunk of people!

Please go to Teesside next year, I'm an hour and a half away!

Oh god, more birthdays! Electrik Kar is 33 and MAD3.0LT is 27.

Happy 15th to oldnavy

Problem is, it's a class 3 car, so the weight limit is 700 Kg.

Here comes Timdpr, lashing out some HOT DICKINGS

Renault 5 Turbo '83

| Bhp: 299 | Kg: 701 | Watts: 0 | Drive: RWD | Class 3 |

I don't want to dominate, so I'm 1 below the BHP limit and 1 above the Kg limit

Last edited by Timdpr, Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:45.

Happy birthday Kev!

A Dream Of Armageddon by H.G. Wells. Well, it's a book of short stories, so The Plattner Story by H.G. Wells.