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STROBE
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Quote from moskvich3v1 :Don't flame him .He will get off yours stupid renders!I will make a new ones for him.And if the renders are private ,How he downloaded them.This is just the 1st BG site don't be soo cruel pelase

Renders don't have to be private for the owner to not expect them to be copied without permission and used on a website that carries ads. Nobody is being "cruel" because it's a Bulgarian site, it's because it's full of content and source code that apparently he has no permission to use.
STROBE
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Quote from Thunderhead :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6uURkWaWRI

had to.

Oh my, that's brilliant. I've got the sound turned off on my work computer but your sardonic text overlays had me chuckling and chortling all the way through. God that guy's review is appalling. And yes it never occurred to me that he might be using a crack since he talked about Fern Bay but never went online... which, if true, means he's not only wrong, and can't drive, but also a thief.
Last edited by STROBE, . Reason : Emphasis added for the benefit of the internationally respected and renowned reviewer and racing driver, Shamrock.
STROBE
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I'd absolutely love something like this. I'm lost without the HUD at the moment, but would like to switch it off if things like lap number, times, gap ahead and gap behind etc, could be contained on an lcd display in the car - and then I'd not have any overlay on the screen except when I use F9-F12.

The road cars could have a simple one that just tracks your lap number, lap time, gap ahead and gap behind. Visually, it could be designed to look like a portable unit attached to the dash of a car, like a small TomTom or other satnav.

The racing cars (single seater and GTR) could of course have something more detailed, and bespoke to each car. Full timing analysis, telemetry (would also reduce reliance on F9-F12), race ordering, race timing, etc. Would add greatly to the immersion by having controllable/customisable dashboard displays and read-outs.

Only concern is the visibility - on small monitors you may struggle to read it. So maybe adjustable font size would be needed too. A bit like the LCD display on my digital SLR has two modes - "simple" and "everything". "Simple" mode displays almost as much as "everything", but with bigger text and symbols, and combining some icons/readouts. Whereas "everything" uses smaller text and symbols, but has a separate one for each option.
STROBE
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Quote from flymike91 :Didn't we get rid of segregation a long time ago? This is a terrible idea. Cruisers I can see wanting to get rid of, but at least drifting is a competitive motorsport. Also what you are probably most annoyed about are the improvement suggestions from cruisers,which would still end up in the same forum. Even if racers and drifters are segregated, drifters will still be disrespected in the racing forum with ignorant generalizations like the word d0riftzorz (which i challenge someone to find actually said by a drifter not in regards to a racing vs.drifting thread) and will still end up in flame wars. Hell we have a whole little civil rights movement here!

I don't really understand, is it the discussion of upcoming drift events that pisses you off? what exactly is it? The only issues I have seen are in drift vs race threads such as "what the fascination with drifting?"

Last time I checked, this has nothing to do with the colour of anyone's skin, but merely their voluntary (ab)use of what is actually a racing simulator. The fact that the physics are realistic enough for alternative uses to be popular is testament to LFS, but that doesn't detract from what it's primary purpose is, and what we should (in theory) be here for.

I suspect that the idea for separating cruisers and drifters from the rest of us isn't the sheer volume of them, just that one cruiser asking for "police chases plz" or a dorifto driver saying "more lock on XRT, plz" causes approximately 8× more annoyance than a racer with a perhaps inappropriate but well-intended improvement suggestion.

Personally I'm sick of all the cruising and drifting aspects of LFS. I don't want to read about it, I don't want it taking up screen space that I have to look at or scroll past. And yes, I called it dorifto. Is that disrespecting them? Probably. Do I care? Not in the slightest.

Cruising servers I've used occasionally, albeit only when I'm too drunk to race without being a liability (and yet even with a bottle of wine inside me, I have better car control than pretty much everyone I meet on a cruise server). But the twelve year olds bossing people around like everyone else is ten years old gets tiring. Maybe they do it because that's how old they actually are.

So yes, I can see exactly why it's been suggested segregating the doriftos and cruisers, and I agree with it. It's not "disrespecting" them because of their preference (is it coz i iz black? [/AliG]) , it's just they don't have anything to do with the primary function of LFS.

Even better, give them their own, separate improvements suggestion forum, where all their silly requests can go, and the two forums can peacefully exist in a happy equilibrium of mediocrity and pointlessness.
STROBE
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:munching_

So is there anything on the site that's actually his?
STROBE
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Quote from aroX123 :Can we add this?

Hopefully not. If you're banned from a reputable, popular server, it's probably for good reason.

If you're banned from another server because some idiots vote banned you, or the admin is immature or rash, then you're probably better off without it.
STROBE
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Quote from AndroidXP :I'd rather see proper specular and normal maps implemented, to make the asphalt reflect the sunlight at certain angles, and for example to make the rubber line shinier than the rest of the asphalt

Well of course. We all would. But we can't have that, and at the current rate of development, won't be having that for a long, long time. So this is an alternative for those that want to see what LFS looks like with currently "fashionable" lighting effects. The biggest drawback I can see to this addon is that it blooms everything that's white, whereas of course if LFS was calculating it, LFS would know that only the scene outside the car could be subject to bloom. And not your driving gloves.

Personally I think this hack might be ok if turned down to it's most subtle levels, to the point where it's not actively making things bloom, but does reduce the dynamic range of the image. When you look at LFS at the moment, it's a bit like an HDR photograph. Everything is optimally exposed. You can see detail in the dark parts of the dashboard whilst also seeing detail in the bright sky. The human eye isn't like that - we squint when entering bright light until our iris reacts, we can't make anything out on the dashboard when driving into a strong, low sun, etc etc. In that sense, the modern "bloom" effects, when actually used in a subtle & restrained manner, are more realistic than the perfect crystal clear view we have now.

It's getting a bit tiring when the same people keep harping on about bloom and other currently fashionable lighting effects being unrealistic. Yes, we know, thank you. It's because they're usually overdone, or purposely used to enhance an effect. Yes, effects used in Bioshock make it look great and add to it, but they'd detract from LFS (although some of the plasmids would be quite amusing in LFS). At the end of the day this is about an optional, third party modification to LFS that will produce effects that many people want to see, so posting to say "it sucks, that looks nothing like what my eyes see" is totally irrelevant.

Because after all, LFS' current views bear little reflection on how the human eye works either.
STROBE
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Quote from Leprekaun :Also, next year, they'll be banning all the fins and weird pointy bits

Really? Source? Best news in F1 for a long time - sooo much reliance on aero these days that no wonder they can't follow each other closely. Less pointy aero bits festooned everywhere + proper slicks = much, much better racing.
STROBE
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Same thing on SS1. Was extremely laggy, disconnecting other people three or four at a time. Eventually it was my turn, and when I finally got back on it appeared the server had restarted as it was a new combo when one wasn't expected.
STROBE
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Quote from NathanRx-7 :I didnt start this topic so people could say 'you're the problem' or 'stick to drifting'
As I said before.. I know I'm not good jesus christ I started properly racing TODAY...

Nobody in this topic so far is 'having a go' at you, they're tryng to get you to see that you can't just jump in and expect close racing if you yourself are struggling to do a lap staying roughly on the racing line. Most "serious" race servers that you're asking for probably won't tolerate that, and you'd be racing on your own at the back. Choose a beginner server, and gradually feel your way around and pick up some speed. Spectate and ride with other cars to watch their braking and lines. Don't jump in the XRR or any GTR, they're too grippy and powerful. Use the XFG/XRG until you can race in the mid-field on CTRA1 or any "beginner" server that doesn't expect more experience or speed.
STROBE
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But the reason CTRA2 is better is because everyone you're racing against has gone through the learning curve of slower cars on a busy, hectic server - and therefore you can trust them more and have closer racing with fewer accidents. if people were allowed on Race2 that hadn't shown any competence on Race1, then it wouldn't be fun or good. As Sam said, your CTRA stats speak for themselves. I think you're just making excuses now.
STROBE
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I'm sure CTRA Race 1 has it's faults (I tend not to visit much, just what I've heard), but if you can't/won't handle the beginner CTRA server then I doubt you'll manage anywhere else. Race1 attracts lots of newbies and n00bs, but ultimately the licensing system makes people accountable for their actions, unlike most other servers.

Besides, I've just been briefly watching it on LFS Remote, and the racing on Race1 looks pretty damn clean and of a high standard right now. Get yourself on there.
STROBE
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Quote from TiJay :With the other couriers, I've always been able to track my parcels and I feel secure knowing it's actually going to arrive.

Royal Mail isn't a courier in the same sense as Citylink/UPS/etc. It's a postal service with a universal service obligation. Couriers are better for larger or heavier items, but a recorded delivery jiffy bag is way cheaper with Royal Mail.
STROBE
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Quote from tristancliffe :Which reminds me - Andrew is busy for the Spa weekend, meaning not only will I be short of a pit hand, but also of an official photographer. I could be pursuaded to take someone local (either to me or to Spa), as long as they are handy with a spanner (by handy I meant totally and utterly competent in a professional type of way) and cam wield a camera... Submissions on a postcard to...

Heh. I have lenses to cover all the necessary situations, and batteries and CF cards to last all weekend. Unfortunately my hands-on mechanical skills and experience are best described as "basic", and that would be being polite. Not that my bank balance could withstand it either.
STROBE
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Yes, I do know that. Thank you for spoiling my analogy.

Bastard.
STROBE
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Quote from Hyperactive :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PO1qeWMfTM

I'll never complain about James Allen again. At least he's slightly more descriptive than "ayeayayayayayayayayayayayayayay" when something of note happens.
STROBE
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Quote from Mackie The Staggie :OK, I have sat on this for far too long and is now eating away at me for so long, but any more and I'll explode.....and that ain't good for my health.:mad:

1. The New Citroën C5 advert.

That C5 advert is awful. It's everywhere, and it's shamelessly trying to rub off the reputation of its' more successful German cousins. No, it's still a Citroen, it's still made in France when they're not on strike, and the value of one still plummets faster than a lemming with a lead coat and no parachute.

Quote from Mackie The Staggie :2. Skoda Fabia advert

Eh? That's a cool ad. The song gets on my nerves, but the idea is new.

Quote from Mackie The Staggie :3. Renault Megane advert

Better than the ad for the yellow Megane Sport where all the components race each other down corridors and fling themselves at the car. All that says to me is "this is how carefully we build Renaults. We fling components at them and some of them break on the way there."

Quote from Mackie The Staggie :4. Even the sodding chocolate bar ... it!!!!!!:irked::banghead:

That's a shit ad. This one is one of the coolest ads ever made though.
STROBE
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Quote from Luke.S :I could contact kia motors through my local dealer.

Kias are wonderfully reliable but they're so boring that I think they should be paying Scavier to feature their cars in the game.

Something like a warm Suzuki Swift would be a neat addition to the game though. They're supposed to be good fun to drive.

Me, I'm not too bothered about real cars in LFS at the moment. Maybe in the future when the sounds and physics are improved, it'd be worthwhile. But a real car in LFS at the moment wouldn't sound right and would be subject to the same physics and differential/drivetrain quirks as the fictional cars. So we may as well stick with fictional cars for now.
STROBE
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Well I do have to agree that development speed is... well rather leisurely these days.

Scawen has given his reasons for this, and many congratulations to him on his beautiful little girl. It's up to us whether we accept these reasons or not.

Personally, I both do and don't. I can accept that serious physics improvements, such as ground force/undertray aerodynamics and engine damage and aero damage are major projects that require research and careful implementation. It's understandable that these are saved for major reworks of the physics stuff. It's understandable that kids and family are also a priority. He'd be daft to ignore his kids in favour of sitting infront of a screen for 12 hours a day.

What's not understandable is still waiting for GTR interiors, finalised S2 car models, and the obvious lack of new content. I know we all paid up for S2 Alpha knowing what the content was. And some of us paid for S1 Alpha knowing what the content was, and we didn't get anything new except the MRT until S2. I suspect the same will be true this time around too. But something is needed to rejuvenate the game.

I've taken quite a break from LFS recently, but have also started racing again in the past couple of weeks. The break has done me good and refreshed my appetite for driving LFS, but jeez... the tracks aren't half feeling tired these days. Same old Aston, the most used environment of all... same old Fern Bay that we've had for so many years now and feels really quite dated... refreshed Blackwood is a bonus, but rather than refreshing existing tracks, can't we also have a new one? And I agree with the comments that no way can it take a talented graphical artist like Eric this long to finalise the new interiors. There's either something else in the pipeline, or he's working on other projects.

LFS still feels the best, and yes I enjoy driving it, but I also can't help but wonder where we're going. If we were to get radiator and engine temp damage (which will have a revolutionary impact on online play), an improved engine/mechanical damage model in general, refined aero simulation, more realistic consequences of tyre temperature, and a new track environment, then I reckon you could put a stamp on S2 and call it "final". I'll live without shinier graphics or a half dozen new cars or day/night transitions or dynamic weather - they can wait until S3 as long as we get some core upgrades and a new track environment soon.

John Penn asked for packed servers with clean drivers. True, you can't code for that. But I bet a lot of the 'old timers' have fallen by the wayside due to lack of new content and features, to be replaced by newer, younger drivers. And newer, youngr drivers by definition have less racecraft, less experience and less anticipation thna the guys that started driving LFS five years ago.

I do think that new features are coming. It just takes a long time for one guy to code them. And we either need to accept that or go play something else, no matter how many of these threads pop up (which is a shame, as for example if an audio/visual specialist were added to the LFS dev team, it would free Scawen to concentrate solely on the physics and racing side of things). As for new content, your guess is a good as mine....
STROBE
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Quote from Waffenaffe :I love LFS and when i could be a Girl,i want to marry with u xD



Sorry to say that Scawen is taken.

On topic: gave Y15 a quick test last night, and couldn't find any problems. Just looking forward to this patch going official, so that my main LFS installation looks smooth and anti-aliased. Regarding the virtual start lights, I don't think they're really important, and can't believe people really think it's a significant issue that they've changed slightly. You only see them once per race for a few seconds (unlike the actual start lights, which you see every lap when you go past the start line) and as long as they're clear and do the job, then it's job done imho.
STROBE
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Quote from mythdat :ITV and Hamilton share the golden arse award - ITV for choosing to go to an ad break rather than show the press conference, and Hamilton for cocking up the start, driving into the back of Alonso and then making gestures at anyone who "dared" to try to race him... a true backmarker monkey drive today

Well said.

I don't think this one race is an opportunity to write Hamilton off - the real proof of his character & skill will be how well he bounces back (depending of course on how competitive the McLaren is). It was a pretty embarassing grand prix all round for the British drivers - all of whom seemed to manage to drive into someone. And what is it about Coulthard's car that makes other cars want to hump it every other race?
Closing CTRA chat box crashes Firefox
STROBE
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Just a heads up, there appears to be a problem with the chat box on the CTRA website. I made the mistake of opening it, and everytime I try and close it, Firefox crashes. It's taken multiple attempts at restoring Firefox sessions or starting new ones, to actually get back to the CTRA site in a form that won't crash Firefox again. :-/
STROBE
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Quote from Gnomie :Just an experiment: if, as we assume, 1/4 of the 200,000 racers actually bought a licence, that means 50,000 licences have been sold. Seems from the graphs that ~ 1/3 of these were bought in the S1 days. Assuming that half of these again upgraded to S2, the LFS team should have gotten about 1,1£ in total income. Let's say 1 million, then. So in the 5 years since the first release, each of the three developers should have had an average annual income of somewhere around 70,000£. Not too shabby. But of course they have to pay for all kinds of development related stuff. So I guess we could safely cut that figure in half.

Ummm... you seem to have overlooked the little issue of tax (business & personal), the overheads of running lfs.net, LFSW and the master server, and the fact that the profit from S2 isn't steady and guaranteed each month like a regular salaried job would be. Even though none of this is any of our business anyway.
STROBE
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Quote from amp88 :I knew there was more to your previous comment when you made it...

Have you had a bad experience with Overclockers and pre-ordering stuff previously?

I've only used them once before but a mate of mine pre-ordered a new Athlon from them a couple of years ago and got it the day of the release, so I was expecting them to be pretty good now.

I'm starting to wonder now though, because the RAM which was supposed to come in stock yesterday now isn't in stock and there's no ETA

And yeah, they have charged my card.

I'll just quote myself from another forum...
Quote from me elsewhere :I actually found OcUK to be really good (including for RMAs) when I used them - but this was many years ago, "back in the day" so to speak when they served up high performance hardware at good prices, when the two original founders were at the helm. Since then, it appears to have all gone horribly wrong - mainly due to greed, it seems. Admittedly that's not based on my own experience, but there's no smoke without fire. I think the horror stories, the racism allegations (which go hand-in-hand with the forum where many people think Hitler was a little bit too left-wing), the leaks from their appalling admin/staff forum, internet hate clubs/spoof sites, allegations of selling returned stock as new, tales of shockingly rude returns/technical staff, many mentions of "trading standards" etc etc all speak for themselves, should there be any problems with your order.

Personally there's no way I'll ever shop there when there's decent places like scan and ebuyer, and no penny of mine is going to Mark Proudfoot. You've got to be careful what you say about them though. It would appear they would much rather get their lawyers after a forum owner to remove libellous comments than spend those resources just sorting out refunds or RMAs and improving their reputation in the first place. I've also read enough stories to accept that Stoke Trading Standards have OcUK on speed dial.

My advice: wait as long as you're content to wait (if it's a 45nm Intel chip you're waiting for, they're in generally short supply and every retailer is subject to delays from their distributers no matter what the product). But if you ask for a refund and they're not forthcoming or they obviously keep lying about what they acually have in stock, ask your credit card company to do a charge back instead. Sometimes it seems to be the only way with them. It's bad practice of them to charge your card immediately anyway. Good retailers tend not to do that.
STROBE
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Still waiting on Overcockers, eh? Have they charged your credit card?
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