yeah, i am so embarrassed. you are not using it, you are not getting advantage of it, its not important at all, but defending it so crazily that as if you'll be lost if its removed in hotlap mode.
no worries how much you beg how much you bleed will not make sense, as my request is supposed to have no such ''crazy'' posts. and i simply want it to be removed while hotlapping and online races. and be available in somewhere like test environment.
if you were truly not using it, you would say ''its ok. i only use it while making setups, just make it available to us in single mode so we can create good sets with its help.''
seriously, why would i be stupid for requesting such thing? you must have been happy with that. but you call me stupid then eh
one guy did a good job showing the difference between normal & F mode, unfortunately, it was showing so much about what i am talking.
yes, that makes hell of a difference.
it does, really. it matters.
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should take this as a confession?
if you dont have an HD 100+cm tv then you lose some visibility. but you dont sweat, you dont feel the G forces, and you dont vibrate behind your wheel. and also you do have more tries than you have in real.
no F mode is not like restoring a visibility. okay, restore it with custom views. but F mode never feels right. custom views are realistic to a certain extent. but force mode is totally a bullshit and has nothing to do with reality. it should be only allowed somewhere like setup environment.
you can see much better where the tires are, and abuse the track to its very limits.
you can see the way better, with better sight
you can gain advantage in race with it. that you can see better, find places among cars to pass.
generally, better sight gives you advantage, it adds around 40% more sight. i myself did quarter of a second faster times with it.
one mouse player (lagger) told that he was gaining advantage with this mode too in this thread. he is s2 licensed and registered in 2008. but everyone ignored him and noone wanted to give him a hearing.
you talk as if i blame everyone that is faster than me of using Force mode. no, i do not. there are faster people obviously. and i am for sure not the fastest. probably will never be. but this is not what i am talking about. there are still some people who gets advantage from it. and i dont really understand what you are against when i say it should at least be blocked on ''hotlap'' mode.
this should make people drive without the mode on, if they want to upload good hotlaps, they will have to race without force mode, to get used to it.
O.K.
now back to topic
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i'd LOVE to be proven wrong and buy s2 the other day
one notice: i have been beaten obviously but ive got the potential. i have never got kicked from a server. and experienced people told me that i was catious and know what is happening around me.
logical fallacy. again
1-dont get mad, relax
2-i played demo as to get a clue. i'd buy s2, if there was no such mode.
3-games have demo versions as to give us a clue about the game. i wont have more clue when i buy s2 than i have now.
4- ad hominem. attacking me instead talking about the subject
and an example: all of you did it, your arguments are fail. like this;
1 Source S makes claim C.
2 Group G, which is currently viewed negatively by the recipient, also makes claim C.
3 Therefore, source S is viewed by the recipient of the claim as associated to the group G and inherits how negatively viewed it is.
ad hominem examples:
"You can't believe John when he says the proposed policy would help the economy. He doesn't even have a job."
"Candidate Jane's proposal about zoning is ridiculous. She was caught cheating on her taxes in 2003."
"What would Mary know about fixing cars? She is a woman." (an example of Ad feminam)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
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too bad for you that you can't simply admit that you are using it when you are hotlapping and when you are racing and killing the realism of the game, getting advantage.
@Becky_Rose, your signature gives me enough information about you. you could just ignore my thread
it doesnt really matter what relationship(!) you got with the force mode. players using it and getting advantage + killing the realism. thats what we are talking about. not your own likings.''i used it and i didnt like it, it really does not give me advantage, nor should it give to any other. so we must keep it because everyone feels, sees, controls like me. if i dont use it and if i dont get any advantage, this means noone is using it and nobody gets advantage''
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then you should not be against blocking the feature on HOTLAPPING.
in where you are not making setups and you dont have many cars to lag your pc.
ATTENTION:
we are NOT TALKING ABOUT SHIFT+F mode.
we are talking about FORCE MODE. where you only see the car's tires and wheel. activated in game by pressing F
lol how artificial you are..
copying my message to have them read again then? why are you not so sensible enough to just write me a message or write in here without a quote of that ''bad word'' ?
those who say;
-i am not using it
-it does not give advantage
-it is not important
and defend the feature to the death showed obviously how they are racing.
if its not giving advantage, and its ONLY for setup research, then you can actually block it on hotlapping & online right?
one guy said it was useful while making a set, ok then, try to make sets offline
the other said it was useful online, because some other players have weak pcs that cant handle the game. hmm, then he should not be against blocking the feature on hotlap mode. after all, you dont have cars in there to lag your computer and you are not working on the set in there.
right?
i must be afk and i'll come tomorrow to discuss it hopefully with more respected people.
those who called me stupid, or kid, or called me newbie or without knowledge, or sent pictures describing me as a crying kid, went over the cliff. as there supposed to be no such responses if you really believe its not used + not effective. there supposed to be only logical answers and not kiddings. but i see the community in the track is probably better than the one here. ive just witnessed being called a moaner and a kid because i critisized the game and pointed out what this game is missing.
dont get too angry because your little secret is exposed.
those who called me stupid, or kid, or called me newbie or without knowledge, or sent pictures describing me as a crying kid, went over the cliff. as there supposed to be no such responses if you really believe its not used + not effective. there supposed to be only logical answers and not kiddings. but i see the community in the track is probably better than the one here. ive just witnessed being called a moaner and a kid because i critisized the game and pointed out what this game is missing.
dont get too angry because your little secret is exposed.
if that mode was not helping you, you would eagerly join me to remove it. if its so important to make setups then they can let it be in single mode?
yes, it gives you better sight, i tried it myself and i was quarter of a second faster than my general times. i was also better in races.
it allows you to abuse the track to the very limits of it to make better laps.
i dont really believe you would defend it as it allows the game to be played with weaker pcs.
and i dont agree with you on that a guy would not be advantaged with force mode. of course he/she would.
exactly, but not because i was beaten, i could use the mode too and drive, and hopefully beat more people. but then i'd not have fun with such car view.
its good that i made you smile. yeah i have driven little, like i said, and stopped driving since i saw such mode was available. i was always wondering why people were faster, and maybe that is the reason.
you are failed, i wasnt kicked from anywhere, ive had friends in game and it was silent but good environment.
i beg of you serious community reply me, not those rangers who get angry when their little secret is put out.
you talk like Eclipsed, going far away from what i meant.
about suzuki94
1-there is no proof of if he really uses it or not.
2-he can hold records with F mode off, if he is talented i dont see problem here
3-he could probably hold more wrs if force mode was not there. (if hes honest)
i'll tell you nothing but what you wrote is not different than what you had written. thats what we call ''same shit, different ass''
no i do not think it. i'd prefer a serious reply, not a kidding one with half an english.
if they are not using, (even if somebody is using) it should be removed.
to the people above that called me stupid with those little jokes that shows their brain capacities, i got nothing to say but just they are not racing with the cars, but with 4 tyres 4 sticks upon them.
why do you think you are in lower rows of the boards? because you are disadvantaged (if you are honest about not using it)
lol you know my point and you try not to understand it. or seem like it. you are trying to move the subject somewhere it was never intended to. if you contiune like this i'll stop replying you. i want the game closest to reality and that force mode is the biggest problem in front of reality.
if its used hardly, why not remove it?
ive played many games, rfactor too, i was able to play it with mouse and without force mode. and i was fast.
there are many other simulation games and none of them offers such weird mode to 'help' mouse or keyboard drivers.
so you want me to upload my karting races in here? what i want is to get this game better dude. why are u so disturbed?
what about the fake (in my opinion) hotlaps then? is there option to see hotlaps if force mode was used or not? check it and im sure 90% of the times made with F mode on.
ban the F mode on all of the servers for just 1 day and see whole timeboards are dropping.
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one more fake racer. i cant believe you guys. i'd rather leave than to play with this bullshit.
thats what lfs is missing, thats why so little players are out there (afaik).
instead of joining me to remove that bullshit, you press me as if i do something wrong. play the fake ''simulation'' game with your fake view, you are not using simulator, you are using some fake 4 tires with 4 orange sticks on them.
i'd rage more to see custom views + force mode :grumpy: after all i dont think custom view would give you as much advantage as F mode gives. and would not ruin reality, as much as F mode.
the mode that is activated with pressing F on the track. as you can see the guy posted before you uses it very efficiently
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