Good job on the update I'm waiting patiently for more information on what's to come next. All of the things mentioned: tire physics updates, track updates, graphics engine updates sounds amazing on their own.

Quote from Scawen :

A couple of weeks after the release of this full version, we plan to show some images of the new track updates Eric has been working on using the new graphics system which supports specular lighting and a new shadow system.

Oooooo exciting! Map updates for LFS feels better than christmas

Quote from gigapouch :

That's too bad, why can't the zero point be the center of the car?

You're right about that. And I'm not sure car position even affects the physics like they say. Unless Scawen confirms this I don't believe it. The main inputs for the physics are the velocities and tyre load. Tyre load might be slightly affected by large coordinate values but at that point, like you say, it's just a matter of localizing the calculations to the car.

It's not really a huge improvement or anything. Just the last little detail I feel would complete the suspension setup options. It's something you would be able to adjust with most decent coilover kits IRL and would go well along with the existing options in game.



I assume many already know what effect this adjustment would have on the suspension, but I will go trough it anyway. Essentially it will change how compressed the spring will be in the most extended position of the strut and it will allow you to change at what point the wheel come off the ground when it gets unloaded.

Again not a super vital idea, just something that popped up in my head that would compliment the existing options nicely.

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Quote from cargame.nl :

Never heard of it. The guy in this case, the sim does ring a bell.

I still don't understand why so many people watch this... Although my experience is that a lot of 7 - 12 year old children do. Must be some next generation thing.

Hm? He does BMX and drifting and he's currently building a 2jz. What's not to like about it?

Quote from Skinzinho :

Not very useful. Actually is possible to use character codes, like people use on InSim, to create servers. But some of then become a square, instead a symbol.

He doesn't want more characters, he wants server name presets. Like you can switch between different driver presets and have different names saved he wants the same for servers. And it can be done pretty easily by switching out between several config files in the dedicated server.

Quote from BeNoM :

Kyoto Ring is a racing track (I know the other tracks are as well, but this track is more racing orientated then the others that did get expanded), of course it's going to get updated, but I highly doubt they're going to add Japanese Touge mountains to a Nascar track...

Perhaps adding it to the race track is not the best idea, but adding it next to the race track seems like a great idea. Similar to the industrial area of blackwood.

Quote from BeNoM :

Umm.... Literally look at their post history lol

Fine, perhaps Eric did say he wants to focus on updating the existing tracks. But I'm gonna say this a third time if that's what it takes. Kyoto ring is an existing track in LFS which is still not updated. Kyoto, if you didn't know, is a japanese city and japan is known for mountains and beautiful roads. It's the perfect opportunity to add some road porn

Quote from BeNoM :

1. Dafuq do you mean "Don't say that"? It's a fact, so I'm not sure why you wrote that... The devs have already set goals for themselves (tyre physics, update current tracks, VW:S, Track Editors, Vehicle Editors, e.t.c.) so a new mountain track won't be happening for years, if ever.


2/3. It doesn't make any sense to suggest new content for a game, which you haven't even bought to get more content...

Oh and where have the devs specified exactly what goals they have constrained themselves to? People said open configs would never happen, and suddenly it happened. People said new content wouldn't happen and suddenly we got updated WE with miles of new roads + 2 new karting tracks. And then we got blackwood 2. So how exactly would you know what the devs are planning? Plus it seems you didn't even read my message. A track or even just a road as described here would fit perfectly within the backstage of kyoto ring.

Quote from BeNoM :

1. This has already been suggested multiple times, it's not going to be coming for years. If ever.

2. If new tracks do come to the game, they definitely wont be for the demo version of the game.


3. Previous comment, it doesn't make any sense to request content if you already have the option of buying more content.

1. Don't say that. Track after track is being revamped with new backstage environments which shows that the devs are interested in adding new roads / content for us. And LFS already have the perfect candidate to contain this piece of road; kyoto ring. Plus there is no denying that drifting is probably the most active part of the LFS community at this point in time, and a swirly mountain track is one of the most sought after additions within the drifting community.

2 and 3. It seems that your reaction towards this suggestion is mostly based in the fact that he doesn't have a license. Well, perhaps he would consider buying a license if such a track was added. I think the mentality of completely disregarding demo users suggestions is fair sometimes, but not when the suggestion is solid.

Quote from Hakseli90 :

https://www.lfs.net/forum/39-Miscellaneous-Addons <-- I believe this is the right section to post your request

Did you actually read his suggestion? He wants a billboard object that can be textured on blackwood. It's not something you can mod into LFS legit

Quote from k_badam :

This doesn't need adding, give us normal cars that racers can use.

Why wouldn't racers be able to use the "XRD"? It's just a step between XRT and XRR.

Quote from carl1993 :

If rim design is not related to hardcoded files/features, it should be possible by swapping correct files to older verion (texture , 3d model or more). You can make multiple copies of game folder and experiment by replacing files.

Doesn't work like that. Rims in LFS are hardcoded but they can be changed using memory hacks (tweaks). This doesn't work on many online servers though. But why would you prefer the old rims over the new ones?

Ye well he is right that most of the world drives on the left.
All of europe (except uk), china, us, canada, russia. And RHD is mostly UK, japan and stralia.

That being said as people have previously pointed out the tracks are actually located in RHD countries and you spend most time on a race track without lanes anyway. That being said if you want LHD you can always reverse your steering axis and watch your screen trough a mirror

Mmmmm fresh grounds Good update guys. I like this trend of revamping the old tracks. Can't wait for Kyoto ring to get some backstage too!

Quote from Whiskey :

I know, but I don't really care, it's just a wish of a perfect game. Soft body physics should be the only realistic simulation in the future, but until then...

King of the road also "simulated" liquid movement when hauling a tanker (your trailer was just more unstable), and this isn't present in ETS2. We don't really need everything to be simulated, just use canned physics that are not too crappy for people to notice immediately xD

Ye well at this date, softbody physics is only good for inconsistent single player physics with occasional lag spikes

What I would prefer instead is that tweak servers allow for different engine settings for each clients cars so you don't get the jumping about when the cars get too different.

Yes, this would be great!
I'm also trying to play with Trinus VR

Quote from Whiskey :

I'd definitely would love if Euro truck Simulator had LFS level physics. And Beam.NG damage model of course.

I'm sorry but BeamNG and LFS are at the opposite ends of the spectrum in physics. LFS is 100% rigidbody physics, BeamNG is the much more computer intensive beam node / soft body physics which is essential to get the crash deformations they have. You can't just whip those two together and call it a day.

Onto the question; the reason why the LFS engine is what it is, is because of the priorities the devs have made so far. While it would be kinda cool to drive around in an open world (or just drive to work IRL) i much rather spend my time on a smaller track / environment with higher detail and more player density.

That being said, I would like to see more westhill style environments around the tracks. Perhaps a little mountain course next to KY. (mountain course is perhaps the thing I'd like to see the most in LFS)

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Just a heads up, it might not be a good idea to post a video with VOB mods on the official forum.

Quote from Forbin :

Generally you can't get new slicks (and I think DOT racing tires?) without a racing license. In theory, slicks are worse on the street than a high-performance street tire because you can't get the proper level of heat into the slicks on the street, and their level of grip when cold is quite low, even compared to a street tire. They're designed for a relatively narrow temperature band, versus the super wide temperature band of a street tire.

Whats your point? LFS is all about track racing.

+1. Not only do I want XFG and XRG with road super, I want XFR with rally cross tires. Could be a server option to unlock all tire types for all cars which defaults to disabled to keep things organized. And also ban certain tyres for certain cars on the hotlaps. I think its a great idea.

Quote from kingLF :

me too i am baned from this server Clucht Kickerz Drift Server
and i want to come back

No you very much deserve to be banned for life. I was the one who votebanned you!
You should have thought twice before you start votes for banning random innocent players.

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Quote from gigapouch :

Is there a way to make the Automatic realistic as in shifting instantly?

Nope, and that would be cheaty since it would make the car faster

Since you don't have a clutch, you can use the automatic transmission. That's why it's there. Like others have said, the automatic transmission is there for people who don't have access to manual shifter controls. That's why it simulates throttle lift and gear throw unlike a real automatic which shifts instantly. And why the automatic option still gives you a simulated ingame clutch instead of a transfer case, only that it's automatically controlled.

I do agree however, an automatic option which shifts based on engine load, while it doesn't make much sense in racing, could be a rather simple thing to implement for all the people who enjoy cruising.