I run LFS on a pentium 3, 1ghz, tablet PC (I dunno, 14" screen or something daft like that...). Frankly, you should be getting better frame rates than that. Online I usually get 20fps (+/- 5fps), except at the turn one bottlenecks, where I have to hang back because LFS becomes a magic lantern slideshow.
It depends what the competition is too: UF1s, XFG/XRGs - good frame rates; TBOs on South City - don't bother...
It is a pain in the arse because it does dictate race strategy - I can't even think about leading from the front, because there's no way I'll keep control of the car with a lot of polygons hogging the frame rate in my mirror. Pretty much every race has to fought from the back, picking cars off one at a time. But, hey, that's racing on a budget in a nutshell!
Geezer, you can't pick fights with people and then get upset because they respond. The only person throwing insults around was you (in the post you have now deleted)
And then to turn it into "America - the abused minority" is just plainly manipulative. Turning a news story, in which innocents have genuinely been injured, into some kind of personal drama is distasteful which ever way you look at it.
I, personally, do not think its a very helpful term. Its used by various governments in the way that you used it: as a buzzword to shortcut any rational debate and make ideological assertions about the world appear to be 'facts'.
All liberals do is bitch, and all conservatives do is bitch about liberals bitching. Useless sacks of blood and bone. Now go and take your lithium...
Sorry... I see that now... damn speed reading...
Unfortunately, yes. Same way that a hunting rifle is still a hunting rifle if you shoot your family. This is low tech stuff. You want to make yourself a battlefield weapon? Just mix some acid with some bleach.
2HCl + NaOCl -> Cl2 + NaCl + H2O
To put it in simple terms, if you are attacked with chlorine gas, there is a strong chance you will survive. No doubt you'll be injured, but you can survive. There are historical examples from world war one of troops fighting on without gasmasks whilst under attack from chlorine gas.
Conversely, if attacked with Sarin, the likelihood that you'll survive is significantly smaller.
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I know its nit-picking, but, horrible as it is, its a choking agent, and somewhat different in its effects to nerve agents like Sarin. Chlorine gas is not classed as a weapon of mass destruction.
Technically, Chlorine gas is not a WMD, its a tactical battlefield weapon.
Actually, its your choice: LFS is not your property and its not your decision what people do with it or what gets posted here. It is however within your power to ignore what you don't want to deal with.
But while we're at it, why not list all the the other LFS repetitions:
When is S3 coming out?
Why is LFS so expensive?
Can someone give me a licence?
Can I share my licence?
Can we have more tracks?
Can we have the Nordschleife?
Can we have real tracks?
Can we have real cars?
Some n00b wrecked me/stole my skin!!
Why is LFS the best thing since sex?
When is S2 coming out?
Hey! Demo user! Get a licence!
Ok, I'm bored now, but you know the list is endless... I have to say that if the drift layout thing is the only request that drives you nuts, then you're probably more resilient than you think you are.
That's because a) the virtual world is being recreated on the screen by a virtual camera and b) most game developers fancy themselves as film-makers
Disallowing the use of brakes completely would be a good way to add variety to the somewhat repetitive and tedious lessons as they are currently. The most difficult thing when you first try a simulator is judging speed. 'No brakes' lap times are a good way to get used to judging your entry speed.
(I realise this has nothing to do with drift lessons as such, but I'm now deaf to the futile LFS drift/race debate)
Obviously - I was just saying that the adult way to deal with this is to engage the posters when they post, rather than adding to the clutter with garbage like this thread, posted in the wrong place, and doing nothing more than reiterating familiar mantras.
1) Agreed - my bad wording, you and I both know that seeing is not the same as perception
2) Don't make me repeat myself.... Oh, ok, you're going to make me repeat myself.... I have no argument with your outline of depth perception, but with the idea that image and reality are interchangeable.
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I don't? Well, that's true, because I have no argument with your bluffers guide to stereoscopic imaging, but you seem smug enough to be worth baiting for a while...
My problem was really with Tristan's suggestion that image and reality are equivalent to the degree that it makes no difference. I agree that:
is a workable way of reproducing the way we see, at the same time, this doesn't make image and reality interchangeable.
It is still a framed 'image', except now the framing device becomes the limited amount of information that the image can contain. While, theoretically, the real world is finite in its content too, it will be a long, long time before any mechanical image is able to replicate the resolution of reality.
Perception is a rather different and more involved process than just the mechanics of seeing.
Without turning this into a philosophically vacuous "what is real?" type thing, no you don't.
What you see on a monitor is two dimensional. The monitor itself is palpably different - you can walk around it and see its back, you can see its sides. The image on the screen has none of these extra attributes.
If I move my head, what I see of the monitor changes, but the image on the monitor does not necessarily change in the same way. The image may be skewed a little, but it will reveal nothing more than it did before I moved my head.
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It was a straight-up revenge wreck - the LFS equivalent of a pub fight. Not desired behaviour and worthy of an STCC ban, but I wouldn't feel happy to extrapolate from just this replay that the drivers concerned make a habit of it, wherever they go.
Justice should always deal with specific instances; I see no reason for you to ban someone for an incident that didn't happen on your server.
As for public displays of shame; the stocks were abandoned as a form of punishment when those in power discovered that they made as many heroes as they made examples. Its not a very effective form of control.
I'm all for free speech, but within the rules of STCC I can't see a way of putting the word **** (for example) into a sportsmanlike exchange.
Language Filters
Not a fan of such things generally, but understand their use on STCC. Just suggesting that a few words from languages other than English might be added.
Was playing with the UF1s today and some of the language from our Latin friends was fruitier than was necessary. I mean, you don't need to be bilingual these days to understand the words 'puta' and 'merda'.
Was playing with the UF1s today and some of the language from our Latin friends was fruitier than was necessary. I mean, you don't need to be bilingual these days to understand the words 'puta' and 'merda'.
Having a bad day, so excuse my brusqueness, but its a car game... kids are going to be attracted to it, they aren't going to search for topics, they are going to ask the same questions over and over. That's what kids do.
Get over it everybody.
Veer off topic?! Thats more like some snap oversteer you've got there, mate....
""Our primary concern with the Car of Yesterday was safety," said NASCAR competition director Robin Pemberton. "The fans hate that shit. We had to keep that in mind when we went back to the drawing board, so we took away anything that increased grip, improved handling, or prevented a stock car from experiencing a sudden and total loss of control. NASCAR isn't about the cars, it's about the drivers. And the Car of Yesterday keeps the driver involved with the vehicle, whether he's just driving it or, ideally, crashing it."
:ices_rofl
Perhaps this should also be posted in the F1 TC thread....
:ices_rofl
Perhaps this should also be posted in the F1 TC thread....
The way simmers talk about 'reality' is almost quaint in its naivety. The idea that there is a right and true way to represent reality is overwhelmingly dominant, and frankly I find it infantile.
The perfect simulation would be indistinguishable from the 'real', but such perfection is (within current technological abilities) nothing more than utopian fantasy. Representation requires compromise and fudging; it requires improvisation and, ffs, it requires creativity.
LFS is a fiction that attempts to get close to the real, but its a fact of being a fiction that it will never be real.
Why is this in the improvement suggestions forum? Its more a howl of anguish than a constructive suggestion.
Sounds like a certain kind of 'democracy'.
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