Quote from geeman1 :

"Would like to have" and needing are two very different things. I wouldn't mind if real tracks would be added to LFS, but I wouldn't donate any money to get them.

Me either... All this talk about real tracks and money: well, if you chose a historical track (ie. one no longer in use) then you probably wouldn't need to pay anyone. But then GPL has that market cornered... If I want to learn something about a circuit, the GPL track database is approaching Googlesque proportions.

Frankly, this is only a problem for people who never drive anything but LFS. Talking of which, there are servers out there that never run anything but the same combination day in, day out. How often does the Kyoto GP circuit appear, or FE Black (for racing...)?

Why add another track if no one uses what we have already to its fullest extent?

Quote from Woz :

Finally a 60's F1 would up the numbers as GPL is still huge but I am sure that use base would love a the major physics update that LFS would represent.

We have our own mods, thank you And damn fine they are too.

Its sad news.

On the ten-tenths forum we were just recently discussing the lack of sponsorship money attracted to MotoGP. You only have to look at the difference between the numbers on the 125 grid and the (less than over-crowded) main event to see that something isn't right.

Quote from XCNuse :

LFS has crap models, the cars in LFS have 1/4th the amount of polys cars do in today's gaming generation

Thankfully.

You only have to look at Racer's mesh fetishism to see why that's an advantage.

Funny... Was just thinking about skinning. Was looking at this, thinking about the bosozuko thread, and wondering, "How wrong is it of me to really want this car?!"

And should I just settle for knocking out a Calder skin for the XRT?


This is fun too: http://www.bmwworld.com/artcars/70_stella.jpg

Seem to be useful starting points, Petrichor. Cheers.

Quote from Gentlefoot :

One thing that most people overlook is the importance of brakes. I can be fairly quick in a car with bad suspension settings but a car with bad brakes is impossible to drive fast.

I think it was Mario Andretti who said that there are even F1 drivers who still believe that the brakes are for slowing you down....

Vienna Risk-Taking Test

So, they got a bunch of gamers, and made them play games to assess the degree of risk they were willing to take... I am killing myself laughing at that one!!!

Quote :

In the next subtest, the Blue ball, the respondent has to steer a ball that moves from one side of the screen to the other. The ball must not touch either side. By determining the ball's change of direction, the respondents can either minimize the risk to lose points or, if they delay the change of direction, maximize their score, provided the ball does not touch the sides.

ZOMG!!! HIGHEST SCORE WID DA BLUE BALL!!!

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Quote from sidi :

When you do a survey and only ask complete morons then the outcome is pretty predictable

Yeah, its a manipulative and selective use of facts. Note that the study does not even ask whether a game can improve driving. Possible benefits might be: increased reaction times; improved hazard awareness; not to mention whether a simulation might enhance the understanding of general driving concepts.

Such results might indicate lower insurance premiums for gamers.... The study was an investment and asked not "How do people drive?", but "How can we make more money?"

This just in:

Quote from scientist paid by the insurance industry :

We are also examining the toilet habits of bears and have a year long survey in progress to establish just which religion the Pope adheres to.

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

The Earth will be ok no matter what we do because nature is cleverer than us, the thing we need to do is save civilisation and ensure our progress as a species is safe.

Yes, whenever we speak of an ecological balance, or of saving the planet, its not often aknowledged that what's really meant is a balance that favours continued human activity - not so much saving the planet as conserving an economy in which we are comfortable.

This is why questions of 'nature' are always political, cultural, and economic questions and why, Hankstar, you are so eloquently right to sound a warning over that documentary. There are no right or wrong answers to this conundrum, only solutions that benefit one class over another, one country over another, one ideology over another.

The planet will exist until the sun exhausts the hydrogen at its core and expands to engulf most of the solar system. Not being conscious, it doesn't care what we do in the meantime.

Quote from Albieg :

What should Parappa the Lapper do in this case?

What he should have done is rejoined the race with due regard for others still on the track, and carried on to finish. Starting a flame war would have been pretty much the last thing on my list of priorities.

Why people even bother chatting during a race is beyond me.

BTW. Agree with everthing you said, NotAnIllusion, but some observations about the first few points: If you're going to overtake someone in a corner, doing it on the inside, off the ideal line, has got to be the safest way. If they lose control, centrifugal force keeps them from wiping you out. Its annoying, but sometimes it has to happen. So isn't it best that they hold their line?

Actually, your post was a little bit difficult to read and I think this is in fact what you were saying?

Last edited by nihil, Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:42.

Quote from Madman_CZ :

But being a ferrari fan i would obviously like a ferrari but that has nothing to do how it drives.
mad

The Ferrari is one of the slower cars on the 69 grid, but since we'd all be driving the same car (and as I understand the itinery, doing a kind of virtual track day, rather than wheel to wheel racing) that wouldn't matter too much.

The reason I suggest the Brabham is that it seems to have a more planted front end than the other cars; once the tyres are warmed up you can really throw it around with a fair degree of confidence. I suggest the Matra for the same reason; its a sweetly balanced drive, to the extent that it actually lacks a bit of drama.

With the Brabham there are a few cons too: with the high-wing version, you have to drive with that wing in front of your nose, run with the low-wing version and the big rear-wing renders your mirrors nearly useless.

Quote from Bean0 :

Just because people have a higher license doesn't mean that they are unbeatable

LOL

I'm proof of that! I recently got my Silver licence after a long(ish) break from any racing at all (got it with a win as well, which was nice). But I'm still, most of the time, a mid-field to just-outside-of-a-podium driver on the bronze servers, and embarrassingly off the pace on the silver server. So far, in all the races I've had a peek at, even the mid-fielders are about four seconds faster than my PB! I haven't braved it yet... (1.39.XX for an XRT on Fern Bay Gold, isn't that slow is it?? )

I don't race often and I don't practice much offline, so I would always hope there's going to be space on a bronze grid for me to freshen up before going off to be lapped in my XRT.

Don't click this link if you are easily offended:

http://inokoshientotsu.hp.infoseek.co.jp/newpage201.html

I think its bloody hilarious and I'm glad such things exist. Good taste and practicality have their place, but it would be a psychotic world if that's all there was.

This isn't like 'ricing' - this is just excess of the most baroque kind.

Sounds a bit like cycle pursuit racing

Quote from Tweaker :

Best just to stay away from ovals and learn good racing etiquette on road courses instead :up:

Yeah, I'm fine on that - I just wondered about KY National 'cause its a road course with a bit of an oval... Taking the fast line seems to make people nervous as they meander along the middle of the road.

Now, I've no in depth knowledge about oval racing, but I do understand that its not all about cutting past the apex.

But this post is really about KY National... Quite often I've seen racers spamming "overtake on the left!!" messages (ie. on the outside). Is this just the usual spam-neurosis, or is there some inheritance from oval racing that I'm missing?

Frankly I find that video alarmist and vaguely fascistic - it seems to be making a claim for improved education, but if there's a reason for education, its not so that we can train our kids to be the bricks and mortar in a corporate barricade against everything "alien".

It makes the world seem smaller and more claustrophobic than it really is. Really manipulative and leaves a nasty taste in my mouth...

Goebbels would have been proud of it.

Quote from skiingman :

Michael Moore really annoys me, but he addresses this disconnect and some of the issues in his Columbine documentary...something to watch if you find yourself bored.

Yeah, he annoys me too... I like his angle on things and the blunt way he addresses them, but he can be a bit emotionally manipulative sometimes.

Quote :

Sorry - I really didn't realise that there was so much at stake.

That was actually sarcasm, but I'll convert it into a genuine apology ... you are both fairly intense characters and deserve to have the floor to yourselves

Sorry - I really didn't realise that there was so much at stake.








Hey, do you think if we added spoilers to all the guns, your government would step in and stop you shooting each other?

Quote from skiingman :

Here is an idea: take this enthusiasm you have for absurd ideas and apply it to something that might actually be neat. Build an ECU and learn about fuel injection. Build an exhaust and learn about welding. Build a cool bonfire in the woods and get laid. FFS.

I'd just like to say how much I admire you - donating your sense of humour to someone who could actually use it must have been a tough decision.

Who was the commentator? Think he was related to Murray Walker: "Stay on the track. Don't make any mistakes. OH!! There's contact!!!"

Quote from J.B. :

It was definately his fault ...

Six of one, half a dozen of the other... Pruett left the door open fairly late on that corner, Montoya really shouldn't have taken the bait.

Could you be a bit clearer as to what kind of synthesis you're after? If its general theory then I'd recommend a program called Pure Data (download). The download has a very thorough set of tutorials which will introduce you both to the program and to synthesis basics.

But by the sounds of your post, you're programming in some language or other... Which? If you google sound synthesis there's loads of stuff on various academic servers eg. http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/stk/

Some starters... :
http://www.harmony-central.com/Computer/Programming/
http://www.tobybear.de/dsp.htm

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Quote from Bean0 :

Seriously, why have a child that you know well before the birth will never be able to lead a normal life, will be a burden on the health service, and may not even live into it's teenage years.

It is not your or my place to impose 'normality' on anyone.

I have no ethical issues with abortion or euthanasia. I do however think they should be a personal decision, made in a fully informed way. Once such things are decided on a financial basis, by someone who isn't even involved, then we are only a few steps away from applying planned obsolescence to people.

Frankly, I'm very happy that my lifespan, or even my right to a chance at life, isn't decided by simracers on an internet forum.

Quote from Vain :

....then I'll do a pitboard via InSim.


Vain

If I understand you correctly, that's one improvement I'd love to have in LFS.

Quote from bbman :

It's not incompetence either... They just didn't know better because they couldn't be bothered to read what they're actually buying...

oh ffs, its a perfectly reasonable question to ask: can three people using the same computer save their stats seperately? The answer appears to be no. Their only problem was that they didn't realise that the self-appointed LFS constabulary get their knickers in a twist about such things....