This is not the suggestion forum... mates.

Quote from Jamexing :

F-1's TC is WAY superior to road car brake based TC. If only any of you here have any idea how brake systems are overtaxed, overheated and destroyed in road cars. Brake based stability control is an excellent safety idea, but brake based TC (as in brake-based control of power output of the engine)? Normal road cars are absolutely hopeless in that respect to actually controlling traction. Thank god Ferrari has perfected its E-diff and F-1 style power control TC for both race and road use for its roadable cars.

Oh, I know, let's ban brakes and allow more "skill" to shine! Oh hail to Formula irrelevant! Long live NASCAR.

Let's get one thing absolutely straight. F-1 is supposed to be the ABSOLUTE PINNACLE OF TARMAC CIRCUIT MOTORSPORT. How can you be the pinnacle of mototrsport without being the pinnacle of technology? That simply defies all logic. Not to mention how many engineering jobs are needlessly sacrificed to fatten the accounts of already financially obese jerks who run this circus. Death to the middle class (engineers and technicians that WORK for a living)! Oh hail to the financial monarchies! MUHAHAHAHA!!!!!

As if there aren't enough crazy, ignorant and passionless bafoons that want to BAN ALL MOTORSPORT. I get this "why don't we ban motorsports" crap all too often these days. Motorsport is supposed to be the ULTIMATE prooving ground for new technology. If all road car relevant technology is no longer used and perfected in motorsports, it just gives those idiots another excuse to ban motorsports.

The irony of all this is that NASCAR is going towards the F-1 spirit of things. I'm quite well aware of important trends in major mototsports and currently, NASCAR is taking more of an engineering instead of their traditional mechanical approach to problem solving. Massive increases to investments in wind tunnel and CFD testing attest to this.

If TC was banned BUT new, superior tech with much more potential such as 4WD was allowed to develop, then great, that allows both driver skill and technology to shine. Or we could simply reallow active suspension and active aero while maintaing current power levels. All these things are very road car relevant. And despite what some ignorant goons here will say, 4WD is NOT a driver aid. It simply makes better use of the available power by sharing the work among all contact patches instead of seriously overworking 2 overcooked wheels. And no, active diffs DO NOT magically make your car uncrashable. The simply maximise use of available traction and grip. If you step outside the tractiobn circle, you loose it just the same. If any of you here have real experience driving real high-powered 4WD monsters setup for NEUTRAL overall balance and no electronic stabilty and traction aids. Overcooking them just a little means 4-wheel drift (radially) that if judged wrong, will quickly land you into a pole or down a cliff.

Of course, spec racing has its place, but with F-1, there's no excuse for standardized anything.

I know I'll get a lot of hateful responses for this post and frankly, I don't care as I've seen more wronger than wrong statements and insults than most of you can ever get. Celebrate the death of technology in the supposed pinnacle of motorsport as long as you can for soon over 90% of the public will deem motorsports to be as socially acceptable as smoking. N

Peace man. I don't watch Nascar, and I know nothing about it. However for formula, making a to be a 4wd is extremely hard to do so. The chassis will have to re-design all over again. If F1 is made to 4wd, then all open-wheel car racing will have to be changed.

Most F1 drivers are promoting step from step, from kart to formula, whether Formula Renault, F3000, F3, etc etc. All these are rear-wheel drive, and that's formula.

For my personal opinion, banning TC is good. Too much technology or driving aids in these days to ruin one of the highest-level racing in this world. If you are selected to drive a F1, that means you're qualified to do so. There are millions of kart/formula drivers who are dreaming and working their best to be one of them. They are being selected out of millions of people. They should be able to drive the F1 without the TC. Don't get me wrong, I dun mean that they're good in all motorsports. However, their lifetime is dedicated to formula driving.

The TC of Formula 1 does nothing relate to safety of the driver. It does only increase their laptime and enhance their race in a technology way. People love to watch racers driving by their own skills. If you can qualify to be a Formula one driver, why can't you use your great skill to control the monster?

Well, just frankly speaking and expressing opinion from my perspective of way. We do need quality-discussion, but no flame war.

Hey buddy from OWRL This is indeed a good idea. For people like me that is seeking for a serious team, this method will help.

Well, see if I can join my favourite team (secret.. lol).. or else I will just see if I can promote this suggestion

Quote from undertech :

So there hasn't been any major change to your computer between V and W?

Lower LOD, which means ur computer should have a better frame rate thro.

I am in USA too. I paid my S2 license using paypal. It is calculated around 48 bucks

Quote from Blowtus :

Are there technical issues making it difficult to allow more? Going from 23 to 24 doesn't seem as exciting as some of us had been hoping for

now can only allow 20

Simply because of the best physics out there, also the extremely good netcode. The excitement of hotlapping, competing for WRs, leagues cannot be found in any other sim racing games.

Also, we have a good community and great devs here!

Quote from Jakg :

If you want to know which wheel to buy, have a look at the link in my sig

lol..faster than ya

Warm welcome to LFS!

Quote from pearcy_2k7 :

Sorry guys i am a newbie and am unaware of the steering options people use
I am now saving up for a steering wheel... but ive not decided which one to go for

Im using DFP.
Have a look on Jakg's guide
http://www.overclock.net/1369869-post1.html
pretty good

Tks Gentlefoot, I will take a look at the website.

Garph: I do perfectly know well about this rule, so I set some criteria and I know how to choose among the teams. I've been in this forum for several months and I know which are forum teams. Personally I do hope I can join FPR thro, but they're only a German team at this moment.

th84: Tks. mate!

First off I will introduce myself, having started to play LFS for only 2-3 months, I am still a newbie thro. Here is my stats at the lfsworld.net

Travelled distance:5679 Km
Fuel burnt:1192 Ltr
Laps:1660
Hosts joined:138
Races won:25
Second:32
Third:33
Finished:186
Qualifications:10
Pole Positions:0
Drags / Wins:0 / 0

Here is my hotlap status
AS club rev / FOX1:01.920-0:00.477 99.24%1:02.397+0:01.340 102.21%1:00.580

BL gp rev / FOX1:08.610-0:00.791 98.86%1:09.401+0:01.230101.83%1:07.380

KY gp long / FOX2:17.060-0:02.330 98.33%2:19.390+0:01.730101.28%2:15.330

SO classic / FOX0:41.560-0:00.526 98.75%0:42.086+0:00.700101.71%0:40.860

WE interntl / FOX1:34.310-0:01.717 98.21%1:36.027+0:01.080101.16%1:33.230

-Totals:6:43.460-0:05.84198.57%6:49.301+0:06.080 101.53%6:37.380


I am mainly a FOX driver, being a real-life kart racer and having experience in formula racing, I can't say I am good at FOX, but I can easily drive within 101-102% of WRs with some practice. I am a clean racer, currently competiting in OWRL Div.B. Struggling to stay in grid 1 for every OWRL race, [http://www.lfs-tracker.de/quali_mode.php?league=100] I learn much in each race and qualification. Feel free to view my stats in thru lfsworld.

To be honest, being a serious racer, I am looking for serious team only. Serious regular practicing and exchanging sets (I am noob at tuning..lol, my mechanics do those for me) and active is my requirement thro. Anyway, thank you for any teams that shows their interest to a newbie like me first.

Cheers

Keithano

Last edited by keithano, Thu 29 Mar 2007, 06:52.

No one can give you a definite answer at this moment, even the devs, I guess. S2 still needs time to be finalize, I am sure the devs are working on some of the S3 content, as adding a new car or track cannot be done by a week or two.

Well, no one knows the future. Maybe the DP1 in the suggestion forum will be added to S3, who knows? IMO, I'm just still new to this game thro, I still please what I own right now, got tons of cars and configurations to be try out in the future.

Personally, I would like to have another open-wheel car, coz I love them

I really dunno too. I'm more newer to here than you, Blacksheep. Tks for the information. Well, actually I should know as LFS is so realistic, just I have never had a chance to try out or see any of these cases yet.

Probably... several miles before I bought the S2 license straight away,

Well, if the event can be successfully held, I can have one of my server donate for the event at that moment. Let me know if u need that.

Quote from Vykos69 :

well keithano, the biggest difference is the join date in ur profile, to those who answered positively to your question. Up to 4 years (O M F G) could make a little difference

O yea. That should be a huge difference. I'm just wondering after years, will I just stay the same as now...

Quote from chunkyracer :

I saw from your profile that you're from Macau and have a protuguese flag. So, why don´t you check the portuguese forum: http://www.simracingportugal.net/.
Altough I never met anyone personaly, I think I can consider some of the guys from the LFS comunity my "friends", specialy, of course, the people from my team, with who I talk trough MSN or Teamspeak.

Tks man. However, my portuguese is not that good I've grown up in Macau and now studying in USA. My english is way better than my portuguese

Just installed and so far it looks good. Tks devs. However, still notice a slightly drop in framerate thro. Doesn't matter for me.. 8x fps to 78-79fps.

Dunno if it's place to ask, will Scaven interested in help for translating LFS to Traditional Chinese? I'm up for that. LMK.

I updated from patch V to V3..
the guage display of FOX has changed.. is that a new change of patch V3 or ?

That's amazing for u guys.. most of u guys do widen your social circle thru LFS, either directly or indirectly. That's great though. Well.. hope that I have that day...

I've played for 2 months only. Personally I'm not an alien.. but proud to say I am a clean, consistent racer. Well, FOX is my favourite car thro. I partcipate in OWRL FOX league, being a midfielder, that is around 20 out of 70. In addition, other than practicing for OWRL league, I will hook on to the Redline Racing Server #2 to have some fun and races.

However, sounds like I can't meet any friend or hardly anyone will recognize my name thro. Somehow, practicing for league alone is quite.... sad for me. While others can do their PB with drafting and slipstreaming.. or sharing setups and experiences with friends or teammates.

Maybe you will suggest me to join a team thro. Well, I am not fast enough to join a team. I wanna join one if I consider I am fast. Also would like to join a stable and active team. Looking at the team forum everyday somehow is like a joke, watching teams founding and closing eventually, looks kinda funny to me. I would like to join a serious team in the future.

Anyway, just wanna ask if u guys meet any friends thru LFS? Do you have to be an alien in order other people to recognize you or talk with you? Or you have to be an active member on the forum? Nah.. I'm somehow a little bit passive thro, but I do try my best to chat with ppl when I'm spectating.
Well. I know LFS is not a MMORPG game, but it's always nice to meet more people, especially some serious racers.

Redline Racing and STCC

There ya go!

@ work

Quote from N I K I :

I don't understand what are you want to say! You are telling us this tread is crap?

lol..dun u think so?