Me so far...

Got up at 7.30am
Started the journey into college 8.00am (damn people going to work making my journey nearly double what it should be!)
Arrived at college 9.00am (bang on time )
Did some drawings of a model for 2 hours and got a break
After the break we came back, setup and the next thing I see when I look over the board is the model naked. Drew her for another two hours and went off for lunch.
Came back after about 45mins for a class on watercolour techniques and then off to my parents shop while I wait till 5.30pm for it to close. Then I drove home.

Thats it for now Now I have a long weekend Full time course = Mon-Wed

I really like Alonso's driving style. It's so different to everyone else, how many drivers have the car understeer so much yet go so quickly? It really worked well for him at Hungary in the wet.

In no circumstance would you take your team mate out when your as slow as Fisi Fisi is just hanging on by a shoe string in Formula One, he never performs and just falls down the order. So take out your championship contending driver you aint going to be popular in the garage no matter who cut who off. He is costing Renault the constructors championship, Alonso is the one doing all the work for both championships.

Schumacher deserved what he got, he messed up twice in the same corner on new sets of tyre during qualifying. He had such a huge car advantage but cracked under pressure, a common problem with him it seems. Alonso is keeping his head and doing a far better job in a car which is obviously not as strong as the Bridgestone/Ferrari combination.

If it goes down to the wire with something like a point in it will we see repeats of 94, 97 ...

Keiran

Quote from BigDave :

so wots stopping ne one from get a crack generator for that?
unless lfs only make a code up wen u pay for it, guess thats how it works

There is no code. Load up LFS, click `unlock .... blah blah` and you have to enter your username and password. From my understanding this is then checked when you try play the game online so if you have anything dodgy going on LFS will know

Quote from XCNuse :

lol wtf? how'd you do that?

look at the url carefully once you've looked at this http://mikeyskona.co.uk/news.js

I don't think there is much wrong with the grass. Real life the grass will usually bounce the car around a bit/lot more.

I'd rather have it like this than other online racing games where the grass is so grippy people use it as the race track and take shortcuts.

Keiran

Quote from ajp71 :

Time for a completely OT question, has anyone got laptimes for shifter karts (or any other karts for that matter) round UK (car) racing circuits?

I'll ask my Dad tomorrow and see if he can remember any for Knockhill. Although this is going back a good bit, 15-20 years at least

Even though back then gearbox karts were quick. They could seemingly out accelerate a F1 car obviously until they hit a certain speed when the F1 car got into its stride. I think that might have been a 210 or were they 250s can't remmeber now

Quote from 1James1 :

lol, but but but but, i aint lagged or anything i didnt even get warnings

You may not see other cars lagging because usually you have a higher download speed than upload. Problem is with the upload which is usually slower.

Keiran

I doubt it's 9G, more like 4.5, 5G from the stuff I've read. I'm pretty sure 9G was what Justin Wilson took when he hit the barrier backwards at a very high speed.

Keiran

Quote from antman2006 :

I think just a track editor would be awsome. The cars I think we should leave up to the LFS Devs. I would love to make some fun tracks for myself to blat around on.

Always wanted to make a more hilly track, like the dip in Ashton (North / Histroic / Cadet). To me thats good fun to go down / up lol.

I doubt they'll ever be such a thing as a `track editor`. Even with the tools you are going to most likely need to know how to 3D model.

I don't want to see mods in LFS unless theres a system in place. It will destroy the pick up and play of public racing.

Keiran

Last edited by keiran, Mon 28 Aug 2006, 19:37.

Ferrari are taking the piss here : http://www.motorsport.com/phot ... r/f1-2006-tur-xp-0286.jpg

I haven't read all the FIA rules but I can't believe there isn't a rule stating that wheels must not be covered. Even under BRCA rules for R/C your not allowed to cover up your rear wheels because of the aerodynamic advantage in a straight line. Okay this isn't quite the same as it's not covering the whole tyre but filling the wheel in ... Ferrari claim it's to improve cooling :/ More like improve the aero around the rear of the car. Clean the air flow up a bit.

Renault should cut some out of cardboard and glue them in if Ferrari continue to race them

How'd you say we control them? The key in riding a bike is leaning.

Quote from chopaholic :

Being only 16. Being at school 5 days a week is hard. Esp when i have to pay towards my own internet connection. Spare 25 quids dont come handy!

And the computer was a xmas present.... Its harder than u think to afford a s2 licence!

I was working my ass off at the age of 12 to fund as much of my karting as possible. I know exactly what it's like. Living out in a farmhouse roughly 3 miles away from the village made it harder but I managed. I helped my Grandad cut peoples lawns for £10, that was for about 4-5 hours or so of work. Did a Sunday paper round the weeks I wasn't racing, £7. I'd try do other things that popped up to make a little bit more money.

All that hard work and then £40 of that would disappear just for a race entry and sometimes we'd be doing 2 or 3 events a month. £100 for a club membership every year ... £5-10 of fuel ... parts if there happens to be any breakages ... I know exactly what its like but I'd never call myself `broke`.

I wanted it and put in as much work as I could to make it happen.

My parents own a shop and are self employed, they work 9-5.30 6 days a week and even there day off will usually be spent working on the books etc. My Dad has been up till the late hours of the morning these last few weeks packaging things to be sold.

Sorry if your not the sort of person I'm about to describe but I can't stand the, "Oh, I'm so hard done by" attitude of some people. I wouldn't say our family is that hard done by but we don't moan either. My parents work harder than a lot of my friends parents do who have office jobs and drive around in fancier cars but that's life. Just get on with it and quit moaning.

Seeing what my parents have to do to make a living it made me work harder at school in the hope to do something which I can earn a good bit of money at so I can be one of them people knocking off at 5.30 in my sports car on a Friday with nothing to worry about till Monday

Keiran

Last edited by keiran, Fri 25 Aug 2006, 21:41.

Quote from Funnybear :

If you are trying to sell a game. And please feel free to burn me for this. I am after all going straight to the ninth dimension of Hell anyway. But shouldn't you at least try and let people read correct english. Particularily if the flag you are flying is the good 'ol Union Jack. I wouldn't go near your game just on the sheer dint of really poor syntax.

I know I ain't all that hot but this is after all netspeak but when you are trying to palm off you wares at least try and make an effort. It really does get noticed.

He hasn't made anything here No need to worry, but personally I've not tried the game as I have no interest in it. From the responses here anyway I haven't seen many people replying saying how great it is, just faster

Maybe faster111 is on a commission ?

I doubt your entirely broke since you've been here since Feb 2005. Internet connection about £15-30 a month so if you were totally broke I doubt you'd have a luxury such as a computer yet alone a internet connection

Quote from faster111 :

WAIT you know why its becuase the one who upgraded it dont belive YOU jakg

You really need to toughen up if you will let someone just dismiss the fact the card isn't working. They broke the fan off it for crying out loud.

What's the difference of me throwing a stone through your window and turning round and saying, "I don't believe you"?

In the end this guy just wants the money and if he walk can all over you he will. Which from your posts he seems to be succeeding, but then to be fair to him we have no idea what you're telling him.

Keiran

Quote from tweaK_05 :

Not sure if this has been mentioned before or what. I started getting tired of reading people yelling at one another.

Anyways, What could be done is exactly what the people at http://www.steambans.com did. Basically you can report a cheater and after review, they get added to a list. People on the list don't get to play on servers running the steambans mod. Where LFS doesn't nearly have the same amount of players as the cs/dod/etc, we could create a LFS:AC team (ac standing for anti-cheat). Simply anyone caught cheating on S2 servers, gets their account banned. Team could consist of trusted community members to take the load off the developers. And since you can pretty much instantly tell the difference between a cheater and a normal racer, I don't think it would be a very timely process. Only thing that would worry me is about the demo servers. The dev's would have to make it so you have to register before you can play on demo servers. And they would have to add some sort of anti-multiple account creation system aswell. Plus we could even use it to take care of idi and all the other wreckers out there.

But either way, that security loop should be dealt with first.

http://barricade.ukct.net/

Registering on the demo will never work. It should be easy to play to attract people to play it. If people want to wreck like iDi they'll just make mutiple accounts, what are you going to tie it to? E-mail addresses can be made in seconds for free.

Keiran

Nothing I've come across in MSA or FIA rules have stated that the meaning of the blue flag changes when you are in a battle for position. F1 drivers are penalised if they pass 3 blue flags no matter what.

Best thing you can do in that situation is let the quick guy through in a corner and then use him to help you pass the car in front.

Try find out the make of the engine and that will help you see if the class is still on the go.

If it has been sitting for a long time with no work then it will probably need a lot of work. Even over winter we used to fire up the karts every week for a minute or two.

Keiran

I didn't slag off TKM at all ... I just stated that one of the prokarts was using TKM tyres all round. Which are a lot harder than the sticky Rotax tyres that the rest were using on the fronts. All of them were using TKM tyres on the rear.

If I still had my Jnr Max I'd take you on. We were 2 seconds a lap quicker than the Snr TKM assuming the they are still the same as they were a few years ago. Even Mini max is about 1.5 seconds a lap quicker than Snr TKM.

Btw these times are not based on the fastest times they are bassed on times within 3% of the average lap.

The Rotax engine is still powerful without the power valve, the gain from the power valve is only 1 second between the Jnrs and Snrs. The Jnr Max to the Jnr TKM is only 16kgs of a difference. You have to take into consideration that the Maxs are carrying a radioatar, battery and starter motor so isn't all that much heavier.

Keiran

Surely that's how real life TC works though? Isn't the optimum traction when the tyres are just slipping? It also doesn't detect it needs to kick in until the wheels spin so you have to take into account all that is going on.

In real life F1 drivers aren't stamping on the throttle, they are pressing it quicker and harder than without TC but I'm pretty sure they aren't just flooring it. They like to try use as little TC as possible.

Quote from ElAbad :

I don't think so. If Kimi worked with his engineers just the 10% that Alonso did, probably he'll never blew off his engines as he did.

Kimi has a problem: he thinks he is a STAR. Look at what he did at Monaco: engine blew off and just 10 minutes later he was at a yatch drinking a glass.

ANY OTHER driver would have ran into his boxes to flame his enginners or to speak with them about what was the problem and how to solve it.

Kimi no. Kimi is far beyond the hard work that is needed from any racer that wants to consider himself as a professional.

Alonso is a professional and a very realistic man. He has his foot well on earth.

Cheers,

John

I admire Alonso for what he is achieving but really, get your facts right illepall

Kimi is an amazing driver and I for one loved seeing him and Alonso fight it out. You talk of him saying he still drives like he drives in karts, please explain that? Kimi did a season of Formula Renault before entering F1 if I remember correctly, in fact i think he won more than half the races. You can throw karts around a good bit but being smooth is the key to winning and smashing over kerbs to often can result in the chain breaking. Racing a kart which is pretty much the same as the ones following and in front means you the driver have to make the difference.

The engine did not blow up in Monaco neither did Webbers. The heat shields got so hot that the bodywork caught fire. To me Kimi is far more professional about things when it comes to failures. He keeps his head and doesn't start screaming out at whose to blame for what. Last year showed me that Kimi is a champion, fighting back from 10 place drops and not losing his cool. Alonso maybe a good drive but I've seen him crack under pressure more than I've seen Kimi.

How can you say that if Kimi did the extra 10% that Alonso does he'd not have engine blow ups? What is he going to do, head off to Mercedes and help them design the engine. The team has all the data, he can't tell them how to build an engine. His job is to drive the car and give the feedback necessary to set it up. He does that well enough that he can pull the results out of the bag.

McLaren have had a track record for car failures. Coulthard is as smooth as you like and he suffered from the same problems.

I guess your like the Schumacher fan of Alonso, no one can match him Like it or not but Kimi will be up there with Alonso for years to come.

Personally I think Alonso might struggle a bit next season even if the car is up to spec. That Renault has been very much built around him and always has a load of understeer which he seems to like. I think he'll probably find himself having to change his driving style a bit from what he has gotten used to.

Keiran

Quote from kidzer :

You starting this year aye?

Yea, starting this year.

Quote from z3r0c00l :

Update!

So I booked a quiet session this morning, only person on the track, so 3 marshalls jumped on too....

I've knocked a second off my personal best and can consistantly keep it there so they've offered me a place in a winter championship they're trying to get together! Certainly put a smile on my face.

Need to start some weights tho, my arms are killing me....

Well done

Ya, I'm in pain after being in them prokarts yesterday. Got a big bruise on my lower back and sides and bruises on my knees from smacking them off the steering column bolt a few times. Those big heavy rental prokarts weigh a heck of a lot and add some very sticky slicks it just makes it hard going. You have to remember in a kart your not only steering the thing your effectively lifting your body weight as it wants to life the inside rear wheel. Quite surprised my arms are alright Thought I'd wake up all stiff after not doing anything for a few years but not too bad.

Much better when you can fit a seat that fits you and position it and the steering column where you prefer.

Quote from Crazy Harry :

You are wrong again. It´s not about staying behind a car. I´s about drafting and changing positions several times a lap to use the slipstream to lower your pb and to raise your speed. Driving alone is much more easy as drafting with 1, 2 or 3 buddies. Try it, you will agree.

BlueSkunk: No problem. Just connect to the FM Junkies Server. There is written: Obey blue flag, get out of the line and let faster cars pass, don´t block. That´s good enough as a reason for me.

Quote:
"- If you are being lapped by a faster car: The car behind you is consistently faster than you and has managed to travel one more lap than you have. He is about to overtake you and the blue flag is displayed to warn you of his presence.
In this case you are hindering his progress and must allow him to pass you as soon as it is safe to do so (you can't be expected to yield while negotiating a chicane or high speed corner) Hold your line don't fight the other car, do not make any sudden movements left or right, ease off slightly and let him pass. He is a lap ahead of you and you are not fighting him for position. You must not hold him up."

You have to let pass faster cars on the oval, so you can´t hold your line, that is blocking, so you have to leave the best line. Same on tracks like Westhill. The track is so fast that it is nearly impossible to drive fast away from the perfect line. So best will be to leave the line if you are blue flaged.

Erm you've contradicted yourself some what. The part you've put in bold says the back marker should hold his line and not fight the car, like it's in any form of motorsport I know run by FIA and MSA.

You seem to think that backmarkers can't cost you time at all, that they should take all sorts of action to get out of your way. Well your talking a load of crap, part of the skill in racing is thinking about back markers and using them to your advantage. A la the best move in F1 Hakkinen on Schumacher, Spa back marker in the middle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YMC2_TfpsE

I lost two possible wins yesterday down to back markers and a couple of chances at passing for the lead but then I was advantaged by them as well at other times during the races. You think I was screaming in my helmet at the karts in front "GET OFF THE LINE", no because it's my responsibility to get pass them. All they have to do is hold the line and not defend.

To respond to your earlier comment, no I wont try oval racing. To me it's boring, I rather fight side by side through lefts and rights to put to test my skills at slowing the car down as late as possible.