RIP Joe, condolences to his family.
Good luck Frank! Great guy.
Over here girls play it and they call it rounders.
Same for Bastketball, except they call it netball
Couldn't help myself, sorry USA
Same for Bastketball, except they call it netball
Couldn't help myself, sorry USA
Hey Dean, can you check your pm from Gerdoner when you get a chance please?
Try updating the drivers manually, windows doesn't put in the best drivers. Goto your motherboard site and download from there.
Happy Christmas to everyone in LFS, and of course especially to all the great friends we have made over our 9+ years!
My advice would be to get to know some drivers by racing with them, the rest will come over time 
Who says LFS won't allow Track creation in the future? IIRC it was mentioned probably over 5 years ago that S3 would be the stage where they would introduce this feature. I guess it would be quite far along the s3 path, but I see no reason for them not to do it.
Kick everyone from the team, simples 
Rocklan, I think it is a bad move to ditch a 9 year old team...
LFS is not a screenshot generator but hell, when it looks this sexy, it would be nice
misiek, can you try nkpro too? Would be interested to see how your connection performs mate 
I used Chucks deal and it was amazing value compared to anything iracing have offered, but I will not be renewing... I think it was $48 for a year, but tbh, I have used it less than NKPro, which cost £13, which I have only had for a few weeks... And I don't have to pay for content..
I really cannot justify paying a penny more on iracing in it's current state than I have already paid, which was way to much. I would rather set up something with nkpro for the lfs community whilst waiting for the LFS updates than waste more money on iracing.
This is my opinion on the current sim racing situation for me (purely my opinion)
LFS (£24)=struggling on it's knees tbh, we could really do with those physics updates before 2012... Until then, we will play it, but without the enthusiasm it needs for us to be competitive..
NKPro(£13)=with the new updates, the physics seem pretty awesome, plus the fact that you can run any track (almost) makes this a serious option for us, and I would suggest any LFS team looking for something different. Whether we (SR) are able to manage a small league is still open to debate, but it is something that we will consider. The netcode is improved so I hear, but until we run it on a proper server I can't comment..
iRacing(£100's+)=Really hard to run a team using this as our main sim. There is no api to enable us to effectively monitor what is going on, and the fact it costs so much means for a team of our size, with differing financial situations with our members, it means we can only support a handful of racers. Also, with the release of iracing 2.0, I personally have lost faith in iracing altogether.
^^ I would like to qualify this above statement.
iRacing=IMHO, iracing physics are wrong. It only takes a few minutes looking at the comments from all the iracers saying how bad the OTM (original tyre model) was, to realise that they all agree. If you asked this question before the NTM (new tyre model) came along, they would say iracing physics were the best EVER... Now they are saying that the ntm is wrong also, but in a whole new way. I only know how it feels, and to me it feels wrong. Also, iracing costs a freaking fortune...
Live for Speed=LFS feels right. Not perfect in any way, but right. It really needs updating, which we are all waiting for. I can only hope Scawen does a better job than Dave K. Personally I think he will, as LFS seemed to me to have a better model from the beginning, whereas iracing's model was wrong from the start...
NKPRO=Only just started with this, but it feels right. It feels to me like a more advanced LFS, physics wise. It is pretty close to what I would imagine Scawen's tyre model will feel like. Some of the cars feel a bit shit, but some are awesome. It pisses all over iracing IMHO with some of the cars. The fact that it has unlimited tracks (track editor, plus loads of tracks already made by the community) is a massive bonus. The huge downside for NKPro is lack of online racing, plus it really feels like a beta game, with some really bad UI. I am not convinced yet that the sim is developed enough atm to support a community the way lfs does.
rfactor=not for me, like everyone waiting to see what rfactor2 offers.
I really cannot justify paying a penny more on iracing in it's current state than I have already paid, which was way to much. I would rather set up something with nkpro for the lfs community whilst waiting for the LFS updates than waste more money on iracing.
This is my opinion on the current sim racing situation for me (purely my opinion)
LFS (£24)=struggling on it's knees tbh, we could really do with those physics updates before 2012... Until then, we will play it, but without the enthusiasm it needs for us to be competitive..
NKPro(£13)=with the new updates, the physics seem pretty awesome, plus the fact that you can run any track (almost) makes this a serious option for us, and I would suggest any LFS team looking for something different. Whether we (SR) are able to manage a small league is still open to debate, but it is something that we will consider. The netcode is improved so I hear, but until we run it on a proper server I can't comment..
iRacing(£100's+)=Really hard to run a team using this as our main sim. There is no api to enable us to effectively monitor what is going on, and the fact it costs so much means for a team of our size, with differing financial situations with our members, it means we can only support a handful of racers. Also, with the release of iracing 2.0, I personally have lost faith in iracing altogether.
^^ I would like to qualify this above statement.
iRacing=IMHO, iracing physics are wrong. It only takes a few minutes looking at the comments from all the iracers saying how bad the OTM (original tyre model) was, to realise that they all agree. If you asked this question before the NTM (new tyre model) came along, they would say iracing physics were the best EVER... Now they are saying that the ntm is wrong also, but in a whole new way. I only know how it feels, and to me it feels wrong. Also, iracing costs a freaking fortune...
Live for Speed=LFS feels right. Not perfect in any way, but right. It really needs updating, which we are all waiting for. I can only hope Scawen does a better job than Dave K. Personally I think he will, as LFS seemed to me to have a better model from the beginning, whereas iracing's model was wrong from the start...
NKPRO=Only just started with this, but it feels right. It feels to me like a more advanced LFS, physics wise. It is pretty close to what I would imagine Scawen's tyre model will feel like. Some of the cars feel a bit shit, but some are awesome. It pisses all over iracing IMHO with some of the cars. The fact that it has unlimited tracks (track editor, plus loads of tracks already made by the community) is a massive bonus. The huge downside for NKPro is lack of online racing, plus it really feels like a beta game, with some really bad UI. I am not convinced yet that the sim is developed enough atm to support a community the way lfs does.
rfactor=not for me, like everyone waiting to see what rfactor2 offers.
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Why are American cruisers and drifters much harder to understand than east europeans, google translate and aliens?
Try putting the router in wireless g mode, i.e. turn off wireless n. I have to do that with my ipod touch 2g.
Session of Incident: Race
Lap AND Timecode of Incident: lap 33, sector 3, not sure about timecode
Your Car number: 05
Other car(s) involved: 88
Brief description of incident: Car 88 turns in on us, causing both to crash.
Lap AND Timecode of Incident: lap 33, sector 3, not sure about timecode
Your Car number: 05
Other car(s) involved: 88
Brief description of incident: Car 88 turns in on us, causing both to crash.
Got to say, this is the first version I have tried of NetKar and it looks like I joined at the right time. Feels awesome 
Very, very nice mate, good luck
Congrats Jarl for the win, epic race! Nice one Simon for pushing him all the way.
I appreciate this might be a nice sim for RC racers, and I'm sure that they are willing to pay the money, but for us sim racers, it is way too much. The demo costing money, and we can ask for a refund? The British just don't do that kind of thing, don't you know
Personally I would have liked to try it out, but there is no way I am going to pay for a demo (as I wouldn't claim a refund), and I certainly wouldn't pay the prices for the full game. I would like to ask a question. Who set these crazy high prices for the game? They are the highest of any game that I know of "IN THE WORLD", including iRacing.
Personally I would have liked to try it out, but there is no way I am going to pay for a demo (as I wouldn't claim a refund), and I certainly wouldn't pay the prices for the full game. I would like to ask a question. Who set these crazy high prices for the game? They are the highest of any game that I know of "IN THE WORLD", including iRacing.
It was meant sarcastically
And the trial costs money as well....Two words, HOW MUCH??????? As costly as iRacing WTF
Saw that Phil, but what would you want to hear from Scawen?
That he is working on REAL physics and not some BS PR?
We know that already. I personally cannot believe that the iRacing guys have promoted this release for the new NTM as real physics, when blatantly it is not.
I hope (and think) Scawen is working on a real mathematical model that represents how a tyre works. iRacing has developed a spreadsheet from more accurate data for each car that they think represents tyre behaviour better than their last attempt, which they think deserves the tag 2.0. Good luck iRacing but if your basic underlying principles are wrong, go ahead, don't change track, keep going and make your final results more accurate with better data. This for me is not progress, this is stupid, USA style.
What about changing the way you think about the freaking engine?
iRacing and LFS have completely different approaches to the way they see their physics engines working with a car.
LFS uses an engine that works out things using a mathematical model that works for all cars, all adjustments etc.
iRacing uses an engine that has lookup tables for values that they think is right for each car, under each condition.
It doesn't take a genius to work out that one way is just wrong. But the worst thing is, iRacing claimed for the release of iRacing 2.0 that they realised their old way was wrong, but they had learnt and this time they were programming the physics correctly from the bottom up... So why do they have to release the NTM (New Tyre Model) individually for each car?
I rest my case, hope to see your before Christmas Scawen
That he is working on REAL physics and not some BS PR?
We know that already. I personally cannot believe that the iRacing guys have promoted this release for the new NTM as real physics, when blatantly it is not.
I hope (and think) Scawen is working on a real mathematical model that represents how a tyre works. iRacing has developed a spreadsheet from more accurate data for each car that they think represents tyre behaviour better than their last attempt, which they think deserves the tag 2.0. Good luck iRacing but if your basic underlying principles are wrong, go ahead, don't change track, keep going and make your final results more accurate with better data. This for me is not progress, this is stupid, USA style.
What about changing the way you think about the freaking engine?
iRacing and LFS have completely different approaches to the way they see their physics engines working with a car.
LFS uses an engine that works out things using a mathematical model that works for all cars, all adjustments etc.
iRacing uses an engine that has lookup tables for values that they think is right for each car, under each condition.
It doesn't take a genius to work out that one way is just wrong. But the worst thing is, iRacing claimed for the release of iRacing 2.0 that they realised their old way was wrong, but they had learnt and this time they were programming the physics correctly from the bottom up... So why do they have to release the NTM (New Tyre Model) individually for each car?
I rest my case, hope to see your before Christmas Scawen
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