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horrgakx
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Thats the issue then. I'm running 169.21 and LFS looks (technical term here); sh!t.
Definately an AntiAlias problem, it looks HORRIBLE.

Does anyone know if there is any news on a fix?


PS - no, I'm not going back, other things benefit from the new drivers.
horrgakx
S3 licensed
Yep I agree, you'll not notice any drop.

PS - please stop showing off, I'm very jealous
horrgakx
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Thanks all - and to answer (screenshot follows).

> which version of the drivers are you using

nVidia's v169.21

SouthamptonFC, I tried those, mine were slightly different in the control panel - are you using the same drivers? Anyway, I've posted mine below.

> Did you change negative LOD to clamp?

Yep tried that.


Ok, here's a screenshot of the settings, this is everything I could find turned to max. Its worth noting that I've tried a few combinations of these settings also;


And here is the result of all those settings;


It looks horrendous. You can't see it in this screenshot, but when the screen is moving the patterns that emerge from those lines are incredibly distracting.

WHY can't the programmers of LFS put all this stuff into the game???
horrgakx
S3 licensed
I did get it to look great at one point, nice and smooth and very detailed.
However my PSU packed up and at the time I was diagnosing what was wrong I reinstalled WinXP and LFS and I can't get the great look back.

The "jaggies" are seriously hurting gameplay
horrgakx
S3 licensed
Not having much luck. I don't suppose anyone has the settings for the 8800GTS control panel do they? I've tried loads of different combinations and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

Here are the setttings for the un-modified control panel settings;
horrgakx
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Don't suppose anyone has the screenshots to use for the new nVidia 8800GTS driver Control Panel do they?
horrgakx
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My nHancer woulndt do this either but i did get the control panel to work. Perhaps its the chipset?

You could post screenshots of your settings
horrgakx
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That looks very very nice indeed.
Though bear in mind that I could *buy* a track car for that money and still get some back if I sold it.
Anyone expecting G25's in the post-Christmas sale?
horrgakx
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I need a new wheel at some point, and something with a clutch and better quality all round will be the way to go. I can't justify £150 at the moment though - so where will be the best places to look? (UK)
horrgakx
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Have any dates been mentioned yet? I know its "before Christmas" but there are 19 days of nail-biting to go before Christmas!
horrgakx
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Back on topic for my post <SHOCK>
The new car and new features will be very welcome.
Looking forward to it immensely, I've gone a bit stale on LFS and that will kick-start me back into it over Christmas.


PS - sack the camera man in that video.
horrgakx
S3 licensed
nHancer allows more than; SuperSampling, MultiSampling, 2x, 4x, 8xQ, 8x, 16xQ, 16x, Gamma correction...
I didn't realise there WERE more options! Not sure if I'd be able to see these anyway
horrgakx
S3 licensed
Can you give specific examples? I got great results through the nVidia Control Panel - something nHancer wouldn't do.
horrgakx
S3 licensed
I've had issues with nHancer and the latter version of the nVidia drivers, ie. certain functions not seeming to work properly, but using the nVidia control panel DOES work. I've uninstaled nHancer.

See this thread for screenshots;
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=31388
horrgakx
S3 licensed
I assume you like the top picture but the bottom one is the result of nHancer tweaking?
Go back into your LFS profile in nHancer and set everything back to "application controlled".
horrgakx
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Thanks - sorted.
horrgakx
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Here's a graphical representation;

First way is this... you should have an icon in your system tray;


Second way is through your desktop;


A pity this forum doesn't actually display the pictures instead of linking to them :/
horrgakx
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Yep, of course, here you are;
(this works with my 8800GTS)



You can obviously play around with the values until you find a compromise between quality and speed. I run LFS in 1280x1024x32
horrgakx
S3 licensed
Yep thats a common problem, because LFS doesn't have advanced filtering options built into it, you have to create your own with the nVidia Control Panel (my personal recommendation) or nHancer as in this thread; http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=30474

I suspect a bug in the new version of nHancer and I managed to get it working via the nVidia Control Panel.
horrgakx
S3 licensed
Interesting comparison.

I think I found a bug in the latest 163.xx compatible nHancer. My nVidia 8800GTS card has the latest 163.71 certified drivers.

even though I'd done the recommended changes in nHancer, LFS looked awful. I opened the nVidia control panel and looked at the LFS game profile. By changing one of the options from application preference to forced it now works - this was set in nHancer but it simply didn't work. Seems one of the options in nHancer doesn't work as it should. If you want more info and screenshots I can provide.

I've now got only very slight jaggies which are nolonger distracting.
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horrgakx
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Has anyone else found nHancer plain unstable? Crashing at startup? Changes you make not being reflected in the game? I'm having a nightmare with it
horrgakx
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Guys, I've updated to the nVidia 163.71 WHQL verified drivers and now my LFS looks sh!t again. I've checked the nHancer AND the nVidia Control Panel show the improvements, but its just not happening. See the screenshot for what I mean.



Obviously I've not shown the other screens, but the improvements aren't showing. I've got a league match in an hour and I'm really needing some help if anyone can please...
(by the way, I've just upgraded nHancer to version 2.3.1 which is nVidia v163 compatible... no difference)
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horrgakx
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Just a note, in the Multiplayer screen, it is REALLY hard to read the text at the bottom right as its black text on a black tyre...
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horrgakx
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Quote from GrandlHuber :
2. U need an trackIR with vector expansion (trackIR 4 pro for example)
3. It´s nice to watch replays or makin movies with TrackIR but for Racin in extreme situations (fast steering) it moves ur view to fast.

Not sure you do actually need the Vector Expansion, it just will only have a reduced functionality.

I use it all the time, it DOES take some getting used to however its so difficult to go back without it - it is an invauable tool. In 'extreme situations' it can come into its own
horrgakx
S3 licensed
Excellent work Some questions if you can help;

I'm a right hand drive driver, should I install the LHD pack now and then simply over-write it with the RHD version when it is released?

What's the difference between Demo & Full versions - thats for the Demo & Full S2 licence version of LFS right? I read it as being a Demo and Full version of your pack...

Finally - is there an uninstaller to return textures to standard if required?

Thanks.
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