Quote from Bmxtwins :

Redknapp set that the players at QPR are over paid. So I think the problem started well before him.

Yes, yes it did, but he's continued it to a new level of ineptitude. Awful "manager"

How can people actually think 'arry Redkapp is a good manager? QPR will go bust even if they don't go down, ala Pompy.

Getting a bit late in the day, but good luck.

The main idea was to stop it being what ever the **** Eric thought that corner was going to be. Just stupid.

Indeed. In the race I've always felt it was a moot point as you aren't going to gain much doing it. Hitting the tyres for me has always been a no no. I can only remember one person ever getting a penalty for it, and that was the great KoK who was continuously driving straight over it lap after lap in order to keep quicker cars behind him. He got a warning, he got a final warning, he ignored it, he got a penalty. I think that is the way it should be. In qualifying it's a bit different.

Certainly there is no way I'm coming to help admin and being stuck on pole watching duties. Also I wouldn't trust deko's new helpers as far as I can throw them with something like that, so it looks like its a job for the boothy.

DQ for touching the pole once.

Well, in the last hour there is currently a plan to have a competition caution.

It would have happened already if you'd have left it alone. :rolleyes:

Mercedes going recruiting nuts again.

Quote from CrAZySkyPimp :

Do you always have to be so serious and boring with your answers?

He just can't help himself.

Quote from Joku123 :

:munching_


In my opinion rules are rules and they should be respected. Period.

Quote from CrAZySkyPimp :

It's up to each driver to make sure he is at the drivers meeting to get the needed information just like in real life, in this case the preQ thread. Even though the preQ thread wasn't the "official" drivers meeting, but could be considered one since the sessions (preQ-race) are so far away from each other and it's an official session.

Can't believe people still after all these years hasn't understood that taking wrong route is not allowed in official session, unbelieveable.

Sensible Swedes.

Quote from vipex123 :

That's pretty rich, write vague rules an implement rules which arn't even in the full rule book and when people don't see it and make a mistake you turn sound and say its not your job to hold our hand? Wow.

Okay Chris if you wish to go down that road please heck the last time Ben was active on these forums. I don't wish you be sarcastic and pedantic but if I'm going to have to trawl forums to find we rules then where is my £25,000 a year so I can leave education and persue this as a full time job?

We've fallen foul of the rules again and I accept that - I'm more upset for TRR and Tommy than I am for my own teams car. Im not the only one complaining, don't you think by the sheer amount of people doing the wrong way that there is an issue with communication between admins and drivers? How hard would it have been to add the rule into a welcome message? I agree that after that of the rule is still broken then the punishment should still stand.

It's not as though it's a new thing James, it's been in every NDR pre-qual event for enough of a period of time!

It takes all of two seconds to look at a forum and go "oh look" you are spending enough time arguing about this for me to suggest you have enough time to look at the forum once a day. As Deko said, give him money and he can come and make sure you get a PM every second of the day. Oh wait, he has to work two jobs just to earn a half decent living!! £25,000?? Haha!!

There was no communication issue with the admins. Admins put the message out there for the drivers/teams to see in the way they usually do, and it is up to the drivers/managers to see and adhere to this message. Plenty of teams/drivers saw the message and adhered to the rules.

End. Of.

Quote from vipex123 :

Fram we both share the same opinion about these forums. Its not mandatory to check the Pre-qual briefing only the race briefing, my drivers rarely check the forums as its full of flame wars and trolls, I'm at school most of the day and can't pass the message onto my driver when he Pre-quals. If he doesn't check the forums how is he supposed to know about this rule?

It is not admins duty to hold everyone's hand when crossing the road, clean their bottoms after potty etc etc. Admins put the information in the same place for everyone. Saying your drivers don't check the forums is laughable, as I see posts from people in Vires every bloody day.

Laughable. For someone who "isn't trying to overturn the decision and has accepted it" you sure are complaining a lot and not accepting it!!!

Fram you have to remember James isn't protesting.

No it's not in the rules, its called common sense. It's also not a new rule for Pre-Quali's.

Quote from xtraction :

but what hasnt been stated here on the public forum, is that he didnt know about this rule, and as soon as R.Kingsbury told him it was illegal, he ceased to exit the wrong way.

Boo hoo. Reading the rules usually helps.

Quote from dekojester :

PLEASE NOTE: YOU MUST NOT EXIT THE PITLANE THROUGH PIT ENTRY. Any driver found to have exited the pitlane via the pit entry will see themselves excluded from the Pre-Qualifying.

Not like deko didn't make himself clear.

Quote from Mackie The Staggie :

Which is why I said the Bundesliga is in my view the best league at the moment but it's incredibly difficult to name players who are currently plying their trade there who are better than Ronaldo/Messi/Xavi/Inestia etc. So in that respect, I can't argue against the shortlist or overall winner.

Yes I didn't disagree, I was just talking about defending. Dortmund will be hard to beat in Europe this season.

Quote from TexasLTU :

Put him in England.

Would just be the same as now.

Quote from Mackie The Staggie :

There's a difference between talent and entertainment. The English Premiership is an entetaining league, however the quality this season (especially defending) has been honking.

For my money, the best league at the moment is actually the Bundesliga, some quality players and some really good games. I got ESPN because some of the County games have been on there, but have kept it due to the Bundesliga and Serie A games.

La Liga is not good for it's defending. It's comical at times, see last night's Madrid game and Barca 5-4 Deportivo. You do not have two teams scoring 121 and 114 goals, no other team getting past 59, like you did last season, by having a quality league. The top two were great, now Madrid are awful and its a one team show.

It's down.

Grats to Mikko for winning the Aids cup <3

Think we have a late contender for line of the year.

We gon hav fun

Quote from dekojester :

Allow me to also post this (most likely incomplete) list of persons and groups who have helped NDR through these 5 years / taken our money for use of their services. They Shall Be Honourary Members.