Italian commentary on RAI TV is extremely fair to Hamilton... They keep uttering compliments, saying how good he is being a rookie. Maybe even a bit too much, but in this case for sure it's not bias.

Grrrrrreattt Kubica

It was easy to spot from the cockpit camera. Hamilton isn't easy on tyres.

Front left tyre with problems on Hamilton's car.

Quote from rc10racer :

all year no problems with the car and now the engine is cutting out

You're right, it's fishy! Maybe someone at McLaren confused Alonso's car with Hamilton's...

Bye bye Hamilton. :tit:

(Maybe a bit too early, but now he really needs to show something...)

Judging from the cockpit camera, Hamilton is feeling a lot of pressure at the moment. A bit of dirty driving here and there.
And the Ferrari are damn fast.

I understand perfectly well. In fact, I didn't have to retract what I said.

Quote from spiderbait90 :

Yep, definately got owned in some parts of that 'discussion'. Not all, just some .

And where, exactly?

Quote from StewartFisher :

The fact that Hamilton even thought of apologising to Raikkonen shows that he knows he got in the way.
Of course, the FIA have done nothing. Unlike in Monza last year where the evil baby-eating Alonso dared to get within 100m of Massa.

Exactly. So I don't see that woman owned in any way, I just see someone who refuses to answer to a person who is undoubtedly putting Hamilton's sportsmanship into question, and this is for sure unsettling for Hamilton, but he didn't come out as a winner in this debate. He just refused to answer.

Edit: the most laughable/questionable part was Dennis and Hamilton's father berated at the journalist at the box.

Owned? It doesn't seem so. Anyone reads what he wants, however. What I learned is that if I make a mistake I generally have to pay for it, if I damaged something. Maybe Hamilton has been taught something else in his life.

Quote from Hankstar :

/votes to move this thread to the Off-Topic bit.

+1, so I can discuss about the wonderful ugliness of Plan 9 from Outer Space without feeling off topic.

Quote from Intrepid :

your worries and concerns

Oh yes, I'm worried that I won't be able to see my girlfriend anytime soon.

I'm worried that I won't have enough money to pay a trip to Iceland next year.

I'm worried that I may dislike my job in the next days.


You don't know my worries, Intrepid. Get real.

Quote from Intrepid :

did you read my intial post

I read all the thread, and the thread in which you talked about your concept of close racing. I'm able to do simple additions as most people of the forum, and I'm able to read.

I repeat: you asked for it, you got it.

Quote from Intrepid :

it has clearly gone into a slanging match exactly as I said it would!

And in case you didn't notice: you asked for it, you got it, since the tone of the original post and of all subsequent posts of yours couldn't grant anything else. Don't blame others.

Edit: funny predictions though, like someone predicting "I think I'm going to commit suicide" and he actually does it...

Quote from garph :

I don't think an admin will lock this thread like you want, if you want it to stop then you have to stop posting.

This thread will be locked down because
1) It has wandered wildly off-topic
2) It contains some not-so-nice remarks and a general bad tone
3) The OP requested it and those requests are generally satisfied.

I suppose there are some people who are interested in keeping it alive. For instance me, for amusement and because I like making a mental picture of the reasons someone has to post something. But actually the chances this thread will be kept alive are close to zero.

Quote from Intrepid :

I have learnt that I am correct in my predictions,

And I have learned nothing because I already knew what you thought and how you support your opinions. But you've been entertaining enough not to have wasted my time

He means that the level of the debate is good or bad enough to guarantee some memorable quotes.

Truly amusing.

Quote from Intrepid :

I win.... I have defeated you in battle....sorry mate I couldn't help myself!

Help yourself next time, please. You're on a forum, not on on a track.

Quote from XVII :

IT IS JUST A GAME! GET OVER IT!

You believe games don't have rules. Get over it, games have rules.

Quote from Jertje :

I would like to see football matches where there are no rules and where the players will do anything to win!

I don't need it. Having rules and players already doing anything to win suffices.

Kudos to DSR guys. It's a pleasure to see they still deliver.

Quote from XVII :

I say whoever gets first they do whatever it takes to get first.

Uhm... no thanks. I don't think about sports in such a lousy way.

Quote from Blackout :

Don't know if he deserved it, and don't know if the things he says are true.

I just mean that Nobel Peace Prizes are always political since they are awarded to give particular attention to some issues, but they are in some cases utterly undeserved.

For instance people do commemorate 9/11 but they always forget the other 9/11: Chile 1973.

After General Pinochet assumed power, U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger told U.S. President Richard Nixon that the U.S. "didn't do it," but "we helped." (referring to the coup itself).

Gore will have another tremendous boost in popularity for getting the Nobel but I have good reasons to be wary, especially for his penchant for censorship (anyone remember the PMRC spearheaded by his wife with his not so silent support?) Only the future will tell.

Gore, Nobel Peace Prize 2007. Just as worthy as Kissinger (that is, completely unworthy)? Only the future will tell.