I wouldn't call it sarcasm, to be honest. From Wikipedia:
Dramatic irony contains elements of contrast, but it usually refers to a situation in a Greek play where a character who is omniscient watches over a less educated character as that character experiences a situation or event that is of lesser significance than that character realizes.
Dramatic irony contains elements of contrast, but it usually refers to a situation in a Greek play where a character who is omniscient watches over a less educated character as that character experiences a situation or event that is of lesser significance than that character realizes.
I have the same feelings of the Angry Angel, I think he wants to excel, so he thinks he must make a choice. He may be right to some extent, being among the best in either field (or trying to be there) can require an enormous effort.
My appreciation of LFS is based on different premises, so my ideas on what to do wouldn't help him in any way. I know what would be best for me (and that's trying to have fun and learn something), but not for him.
No, but incidentally the only thing I've ever taught in my life was sound editing in a professional formation institute where I was previously trained as a sound technician and music producer. I was told I had high marks (students were required to judge the skills of the teachers), but unfortunately for me there was no use in teaching stuff that granted - in my opinion - no future to those attending the courses. The market for sound technicians and multimedia experts is extremely small where I live, so I stepped down. I don't like to sell dreams, so I stayed true to my real professional skills. At least I can really feel useful without compromising something I see as artistic, and still like my job.The year I spent learning there has been interesting, though... I openly contested a teacher (an internationally renowned drummer and composer) face to face because I thought he was doing an ugly job. That was the last year he worked there because his ugly personality, along with his inability as a teacher, had been exposed.
The other teachers were generally excellent, for instance the live front of stage sound technician of Andrea Bocelli, an intelligent, patient and funny guy.
And you can call me Killing Joke, if you like
...see you in DSR servers sooner or later.Yes, the list would explode, and my list is extremely partial too. It was meant as an exemplification of how a genre which is highly regarded in the experimental and contemporary music scene can be treated as something worthless.
Paul Kalkbrenner is the only trance composer I listen to. I don't have much interest in the style but he shows that trance can be melodic, entertanining, relaxing, well thought out.
As I said a taxonomy of music genres, subgenres, styles and substyles is always imperfect, but I guess no artist of my list would be offended by being related to the techno scene, since all of them have formal and strong relationships with it.
It has been said that talking about music is like dancing about architecture. There are some people - like me - that think one can actually dance about architecture. It's possible, but unless you restrain yourself to a purely descriptive and analitic approach you'll always have some degree of confusion. I accept it with no problem, except when I'm talking to some musicologist, ethnomusicologist or radio host where one never limits himself to definitions, or scarcely documented lists. The context is different, here.
Paul Kalkbrenner is the only trance composer I listen to. I don't have much interest in the style but he shows that trance can be melodic, entertanining, relaxing, well thought out.
As I said a taxonomy of music genres, subgenres, styles and substyles is always imperfect, but I guess no artist of my list would be offended by being related to the techno scene, since all of them have formal and strong relationships with it.
It has been said that talking about music is like dancing about architecture. There are some people - like me - that think one can actually dance about architecture. It's possible, but unless you restrain yourself to a purely descriptive and analitic approach you'll always have some degree of confusion. I accept it with no problem, except when I'm talking to some musicologist, ethnomusicologist or radio host where one never limits himself to definitions, or scarcely documented lists. The context is different, here.
Actually, the level of sophistication of Geburt Einer Nation is fairly high for rock standards. In fact that song is the outcome of a reasoning that brands stadium rock as totalitarian.
To Laibach, stadium rockstars are something in between a cult minister and a politician, and stadium concerts are celebrations where the community shares a feeling, but no real common idea. Hence, a big show of conformism.
Geburt Einer Nation is a frontal attack to stadium rock since it shows that One Vision can be interpreted as a totalitarian song. If I take a close look at the original lyrics and think about them I see a song which is meant to tease the audience with abstract words completely devoid of any actual meaning, appealing only to the good conscience of the listener. It's brutally generic.
So Laibach transform One Vision in a totalitarian hymn as a scorching critic, adding insult to injury calling it Geburt Einer Nation, The Birth of a Nation. The Birth of a Nation by Griffith is a masterpiece of classic hollywood mute cinema. In this movie the villain is black, and the hero is a KKK member. That's not meant as an accusation of nazism towards Queen, but it's clearly a symbol of their distaste for lyrics they consider as totalitarian as the form of rock celebrations that happen in stadiums.
As I'm growing more and more detached from punk and its offsprings I'm willing to put more things together, so I generally refer now to punk music as rock music, something I'm not particularly into at the moment, except for being a fundamental part of my evolution.
Social aspects of popular culture tend to be preponderant at first, then - when the effects of novelty have subsided - all you have are traces of a long term impact and elements you'll find as inherited by subsequent art and culture. I recognise that punk, in the extended sense, has had a huge cultural impact in my formation, so I'm unable to dismiss it: it would be ahistorical.
But then - with the evolution of tastes - some stuff that sounded so good at first starts sounding naive. Incidentally this is a definition that in fine art has been applied to a wide range of painters who were primarily self-taught and were known for a vivid but conflicting use of imagery unable to generate the transfer of a coherent vision or thought.
And here we get to True Art, if such a thing exists: art is generally accepted as a manipulation of matter to stimulate ideas or emotions. As such it has always been a matter of the mind, and not of the heart: it could be the outcome of the most passionate intention or not, but it's generally the result of a well concerted effort or brilliant intuition.
Only recently the definition of art being the result of a conscious effort has been challenged to some extent. Your definition of True Art looks to me extremely personal and distant from an agreed one (and agreement on the meaning of a term is rather important in this case), no matter if applied to popular or academic art. I may agree on being passionate on a personal basis, but to have a fair, critical view on art I must get rid of my personal heritage as much as I can: art is something more than what I like, and certainly something different from a passion of the heart. It may include it, but it's far from being mandatory.
I don't; but you see, hardcore punk, jazzcore, funkcore, ska-core, emotional hardcore, surf-core, reggae-core, trashcore, queercore, melodic hardcore, whatever core you like you'll find important stylistical links to punk, no matter how detached from some dubious commercial and visual aspects of its origin. It's not really a question of confusion.
In the same way I treat techno: minimal techno, glitch, technodub, techno-ambient, IDM, Detroit techno, post-techno, intelligent techno, experimental techno, along with a countless numbers of styles, are all originated and encompassed by techno. Which, in turn, has its origins in records such as Gottshing's E2-E4 (1981), or in the works of Erkki Kurenniemi in the sixties and early seventies.
There's no way of having a perfect taxonomy in music, just approximations.
I know, in fact a tiny minority of people likes and takes pleasure in approaching such stuff. But surely you'll easily understand the huge difference in style...
lol at the Moose.
To be honest I never liked British punk that much, but I didn't listen to many records anyway. When I finally had the courage to buy Punk's not Dead by The Exploited I realised punk was dead.
There's nothing to be sorry of, zeugnimod, but the experimental and minimal techno coming from Germany is generally excellent. You don't have to take my word from granted, you just have to take a look at an issue of The Wire (best quality music magazine ever).
I come from American hardcore punk listenings, so I had to go a long way before appreciating such intellectually challenging material. Since then I've scrapped metal and punk off my list (except Meshuggah, Fugazi and Nomeansno).
A friend of mine beside me is reading this thread too. He just said "Scooter? It's crystal clear why techno is shit for him... because Scooter is shit"...
Edit: I must confess I didn't know who Scooter, is, so I went on Youtube looking for a video of his, and found this. Woah. I'm not going to comment. Well, Carsten Nicolai begs to differ. Take a look at this video of an installation of his in Japan if you're curious. As you can see our concept of techno is totally different.
I come from American hardcore punk listenings, so I had to go a long way before appreciating such intellectually challenging material. Since then I've scrapped metal and punk off my list (except Meshuggah, Fugazi and Nomeansno).
A friend of mine beside me is reading this thread too. He just said "Scooter? It's crystal clear why techno is shit for him... because Scooter is shit"...
Edit: I must confess I didn't know who Scooter, is, so I went on Youtube looking for a video of his, and found this. Woah. I'm not going to comment. Well, Carsten Nicolai begs to differ. Take a look at this video of an installation of his in Japan if you're curious. As you can see our concept of techno is totally different.
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The thread you're referring to undergoes a regular cleanup. Maybe you're new to this and you don't know it, but I guess it will be sensibly trimmed when needed, as it has been in the past. That was the right place for a discussion about a specific issue, but you may also ignore that discussions about servers and LFS users are generally discouraged (and with good reason) on this forum as a form of naming and shaming.
That's a very partial characterisation of hip hop. Yes, there's a lot of gangsta stuff and rappers repeating "me me me me" bragging about what they do, for real or for "art", but there are also some excellent artists who write and perform differently.
As an avid music listener I've come to the conclusion that there's no use in bashing entirely a style or genre (especially when it's broad as hip hop) because if you take a thorough look you'll be able to find rare gems in the middle of a huge pile of garbage. For instance I dislike country (and lots of different styles), but I must absolutely save some excellent stuff like the renditions of some songs offered by Johnny Cash.
If you like good hip hop with socially conscious lyrics, search for the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy. Language of Violence is an absolute masterpiece of hip hop, and other songs retain the same qualities too.
You can dislike techno as much as I dislike cheap unartistic music, I don't care about that, but I suspect you don't know what I'm talking about. Just don't twist and contort my sentences to make me say something I didn't say.
You mean, like the techno-shit produced in Germany by people like Oval, Bernard Gunther, Frank Bretschneider, Paul Kalkbrenner, Funkstorung, or by the likes of labels such as the now gone Mille Plateaux? Or the shit produced by artists such as Alva Noto aka Carsten Nicolai, both alone and paired with the likes of Sakamoto, Pan Sonic and others?
I suspect you have no knowledge of the techno scene, except for the most popular and less artistic results. In fact the German techno scene has offered to listeners of academic music a wealth of masterpieces and has generated a lot of styles which may not be so well known, but they're valued by music lovers as milestones in Electronic Music, and I'm not talking about pop.
I guess that some important aspects are lost on people who are too concentrated on what the radio plays. It's their right, but they may miss what happens just right under their nose.
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Basing my judgement on free antivirus comparisons and first-hand experience I'd say "or something".
(Precisely Avira Antivir, which has much better recognition although it has advertising on startup and no mail scanning in the free version. However if you don't turn off resident protection it still greatly outclasses the free AVG's detection rates on malware.)
I won't take your expression literally (I've seen some pretty nasty malware) but yes, Symantec stuff is known to be troublesome, buggy, extremely hungry on resources, and on top of that there's the annoying fact of having very slow and sometimes poor virus signature releases when compared to the Antiviruses which are generally respected in the security community (such as NOD32, Kaspersky, F-Secure).
Every security suite/product may be troublesome, but I have had much more trouble with Symantec products (and much more infections) than with any other non-free antivirus.
Edit: my personal position on antiviruses is that they are flawed by design. The now late Holy Father, author of one of the best rootkits ever (Hacker Defender), had a similar position. However for those who aren't savvy enough to use a proactive approach (and that is the absolute majority of users) it's a form of necessary evil.
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Because your computer is connected to the Internet, and as such is a valuable resource: it can offer bandwidth, an smtp engine installation to convey spam via botnets, space for file servers.
And because you are a valuable resource: a computer can offer advertised searches via adware, it can contain relevant personal and financial information that can be translated into real money that you'd lose in a way or another.
And it really doesn't matter who you are since the criminals willing to exploit vulnerabilities act on a mass scale: if you have no valuable resources there will be someone else who has them.
Take, for instance, spam: a tiny minority of users answers to spam, but that tiny minority has to be computed on a mass scale, so that tiny minority amounts to a lot of people, and then to a lot of money.
Or, much simpler, people (most computer users) are very ignorant about viruses and malware, no matter how sophisticated and snob they think they are. For instance, someone may have installed software after someone else told him "Google is your best friend"... You know, sometimes Google is your worst enemy.
Here:
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sit ... ient_type=FF&aff_id=0
As you can see, it's promoted through spammy mail, which is nowadays one of the most common vehicles of self-inflicted pain. Since all the anti-malware he uses is unable to locate or eradicate what he got, it's probable that there's a Browser Helper Object in Explorer that makes pop-ups appear. It may not be malware, just adware, and it may have been installed accepting some kind of legal agreement. There's a limit for antispywares: in most cases for legal reasons they cannot eradicate something that was voluntarily (although somewhat unconsciously) installed by a user. If this is the case the software is legitimate although questionable; there might be a voice in Add/Remove Programs, but I wouldn't use it first since if it was really malware (and not simply adware) it could do more harm than good. But I'd check for interesting entries in Add/Remove Programs and report for Search Assistants and similar.
HiJackThis can show this BHO and related files and help uninstall it. There are some caveats, though.
1) You must identify correctly the BHO to eradicate, and you must be careful since a blind usage of HijackThis could limit or cripple the functionality of a computer.
2) If the malware/adware is protected by a rootkit or by some form of antiuninstall it may be much more difficult to eradicate it since it would keep reinstalling.
3) If the hosts file has been modified it must be returned to the original state deleting additional lines.
There's much more than this, of course. Just one hint: CAREFUL. You must know what you are doing, and that's very different from thinking you know what you're doing. In case you don't, refrain from action, offer relevant information and seek for advice in the right places and from the right persons.
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Simple and clear, maybe a bit off-topic
I don't think so. The quality of racing and racers is such that the above mentioned half-wits get busted and disposed of very soon.
And what are racers, mental midgets who get excited about running on a track just to try to see their e-penis enlarged?
You can dismiss anything you dislike reasoning like that. Let's be fair and avoid attacking people because of their tastes. I've left most of the communities I belonged to because of this ghetto mentality: I only saw mental midgets who were worried about what other people did instead of concentrating individually on what they like to do.
More popular, okay, it may be. More fun, it depends. Fun is a personal thing. "Better", not for me, not for racers. That's personal too.
So the answer for me is no, they are not better, and they're not worse. Are Ferrari cars worse than Fiat because they have a smaller market? No.
Edit: JTbo, that doesn't make sense... People do what they want. It's their right to do so unless stated otherwise. If I should do some reasoning like you do I should take a rifle and kill anyone who didn't listen to Pernaiachi's "Ora". I may be serious about music, but that doesn't mean that I'll cry about it, even if their market kills mine. I have no right to order them how to use their ears and CD players. And no, I don't poke fun at them, especially in a tech assistance subforum where people come to be assisted.
Re-Edit: as for killing someone with a rifle, well, I'm not implying in ANY way that JTbo would do such a thing for LFS... just to be clear. Or that racers drive Ferrari and cruisers drive Fiat
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You mean that Internet "is just a game"?
"No, it's a serious simulator!"
I hope you get it
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