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ajp71
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Quote from tristancliffe :I'm meant to be racing at Donington in June. Really hoping that the club is looking for alternatives and keeping track of what is going on at Donington - Cadwell or Brands would be ideal replacements in my opinion, although I'd miss racing at Donington.

Unfortunatley Rockingham seems to be desperate for race meetings (I think they were only going to have 5 this year) so I think more meetings will follow last weekends Britcar meeting into being bored to death at it.
ajp71
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Quote from Michael Denham :One thing I forgot to mention... if you're looking at s2000s, find out whether they're the 2 litre or 2.2... the 2 litres are a little weaker in the low end with a bigger kick when vtec comes in. The 2.2 have a little more low end and vtec comes in a little earlier and smoother too.

The 2 litre revs to 9000rpm...
ajp71
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I think the LFS Serbia one is neat and blends into the top of the page nicely.

The GRID one takes the biscuit as the most visually offensive and tatty ad on the forum by some way.
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ajp71
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Quote from S14 DRIFT :Nope

Appologies I was talking about the nearly 10 year old manual coupe, far more desirable and stylish than the automatic roadster IMO.
ajp71
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Quote from S14 DRIFT :It weighs 1500kgs dry.. wet with some fuel you're looking at closer to 1700kg.

Are you talking out your arse or are Crossfires heavier in Berkshire?
ajp71
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Quote from S14 DRIFT :LOL? You keep going on about how cars are shit to drive and then you suggest the Chrysler Crossfire. LOL.

It should be reasonably competent given that it is an SLK underneath (but a lot more attractive), what else in the last 10 years has been produced that is front engined, closed roof or folding hardtop/electric convertable (I assume that is a pre-requisite of being practical) that is less overweight whilst still being interesting?

I'm not saying I would ever buy any of them or anything produced in the last 10 years if you gave me the cash though
ajp71
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If it has to be less than 10 years old and practical I'd look at a 350Z or Chrysler Crossfire, nice attractive cars although a bit bloated.
ajp71
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Quote from anttt69 :
Infact I really am quite limited & @ the same time I cannot justify spending £200 on a set of Conti's that I might only use three or four times this season.

Look for something second hand then, either find a tyre place doing part worn tyres and ask for a matching set of premium tyres (my local tyre place does this for £15 a tyre but normally you have to wait if you want to be picky as to what you get).

Better still try and find a part worn set of the tyres you want on a set of wheels, Ford wheels are easy to find and you get a spare set of wheels in the process. I managed to get a nearly new set of A032R semi-slicks on Alfasud alloys for £100, not bad considering the Contis cost me £180.
ajp71
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Most of Toyo's range isn't great for performance use, it's aimed at wear/tyre noise/wet grip as are most of the tyres you are looking at. Ignore subjective opinions about tyres based on none competition/trackday use, what they're like on the road and how much grip people may think they have, isn't helpful when choosing a tyre for competition use. The R888 are Toyo's only tyre aimed at proper competition use, they do make a great alternative to A048s, the hard ones last considerably longer both on road and track, not that you can use either.
ajp71
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Quote from Osco :for a race engine perhaps. I know at least 10 people running 220-250 rwhp on a turbocharged B6 or BP (stock) longblock and reliable at that. If your tune is good you can go forever like that. If your tune is shit, not even a prepped block with unobtanium parts is going to survive some harsh ping

The starting engine had 140bhp, a rolling road can easily invent 25bhp plus a bit of exaggeration from owners and the actual output is more likely to be under 190bhp which is easily obtainable by building a nice naturally aspirated engine. Presumably some of the internals of the turbocharged variant of the same engine were used and the compression ratio must have been reduced.
ajp71
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Find the front washer motor, connect the wires to a multimeter/tester if possible and see if you get a connection, if you do remove the washer motor and see if you can strip it out and clean it, often they just get clogged up and simply clearing them out is all it takes.
ajp71
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Installing a key logger to increase mee-pennis? No thanks...
ajp71
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Quote from wild :Yeah I don’t see any reason why they cannot simply keep it at Silverstone. Maybe their safety standards are not up to regulation? Or was it because they were late in renewing the contract they had. I cannot remember to be honest.

Certainly nothing wrong with the track, it's exceptionally safe, equally rubbish for spectators and totally characterless with a sea of tarmac run off area. The reason why Silverstone lost the Grand Prix is it is owned by the BRDC, who Bernie hates, he's been going on for years about getting rid of Silverstone (all the nonsense about a GP at Brands or in the centre of London). Donnington was the first feasable proposal Bernie has come up with but it is evident that there has been no serious work started yet, other than digging a tunnel and knocking a couple of buildings down nothing has been done and I see no way its on track for 2010.

It would have needed a lot more investment and commitment, none of the landscaping/changing the layout and acceptance that current pit complex, whilst not great could be expanded to cope.
ajp71
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Quote from durbster :
If they're the same 1.6 and 1.8 engines they used in the MX-5 (and 323) then there's not much between them really as the 1.8 is heavier; negating the extra power.

The 1.8 litre is a 4 valve per cylinder V6 engine, I think the 1.6 is the same engine used in the MX5 and I don't think there was a 1.8 4 pot option on the MX3.
ajp71
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Quote from trebor901 :
Good to hear that people out of work for 1 year will get a guarenteed placement. Trouble is though will you be forced to take what they give you?

That's the problem though, if you can't find a job you shouldn't have any choice or pickyness about what you're doing or how much you're being paid to do it.

Quote from Crashgate3 :
That and temp agencies don't have any temp jobs you can just walk into anymore Everything you do has to go through the interview process now which takes weeks.

Look around a bit, plenty of notices for short work on notice boards in local shops and supermarkets, often a couple of days of work pays very well cash in hand no faffing about with interviews and the like. Of course nobody wants to be hunting for short term work like this (although I find it very convenient) but you'll still be better off than spending the day watching TV.
ajp71
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Quote from shiny_red_cobra :You can get some really nice headlights/taillights for it on ebay though, and other aftermarket parts too of course.

They look awful and cost as much as the car...
ajp71
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Quote from Crashgate3 :Charlie Brooker explains my feeling better than I ever could:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWqvWFUj51k

So true as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... obymg&feature=related
ajp71
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Go for it, at £250 I'm sure you could make a profit selling it to non-contact oval racers, I would have snapped a tatty one up for that when I was looking for cars, but even relatively tatty ones weren't going for under £400 on ebay.
ajp71
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Quote from STROBE :Oh... my... god...

We fought and dealt with the IRA for over 20 years. I can't believe the nation as a whole and the policital opposition is so ignorant or apathetic to think that suddenly we need this kind of Orwellian jurisdiction in government for some unspecified, unforseen, vaguely defined civil emergency.

As someone generally opposed to intrusive laws and find the whole terrorist 'threat' to be far from the top of my list of things to worry about I find this absolutely fine and sensible. Of course there may be issues with exactly when it can be enacted but there have been plans/action taken of localised organisation and control in the event of disaster (be it natural or nuclear) I don't see any issue with this.
ajp71
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I think it's bad as usual, the idea of encouraging perfectly good cars to be scrapped and getting people to buy new ones they don't need and can't afford is creating two problems in one go. The new car industry should be allowed to fail like it naturally is at the moment, people can't afford to buy so many so there's no point in trying to artificially keep people in work producing a product that no one wants, it just doesn't make sense, the hard truth is we'd all be far better off if car workers were sat on their arses (not being paid) or found another job.

There are still plenty of jobs where I live, that are still being filled by foreigners (although numbers coming in are reducing) and a percentage of the population is still unemployed and quite happy to be unemployed (despite telling you otherwise) they won't work for minimum wage and they certainly won't do anything that involves manual labour or effort, nor can they do temporary work until they find something permanent...

I don't think giving people jobs will do much to help 'jobseekers' other than possibly making them run out of excuses and free handouts?
ajp71
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Quote from gezmoor :His point is that RWD cars are more fun and satisfying to drive and that cars with low levels of grip and crap suspensions are even more fun because they are more "lively" and don't have to be driven fast to have "fun" in

Here's where your ideas about driving differ from enthusiasts, driving quickly and fast doesn't tell you anything about the average speed the car is maintaining, or is capable of maintaining over a stretch of road. In order to drive quickly it is pretty universally accepted that the car is being driven with its limits, the tyres are not going to be slipping slightly but not (intentionally) beginning to get to or pass over optimum grip levels. Typically a driver driving quickly (particularly on the public road) will reduce the amount of braking they have to do (both to add a safety margin and to reduce unnecessary wear and tear). A car being driven quickly may still be steered on the throttle or brakes, but well within the drivers comfort zone, and most importantly a car being driven quickly should never ever loose control or have an accident. The point of driving quickly is solely for the enjoyment of pro-actively driving a car, and can be performed on track days and the public road (obviously the environment restricts what kind of pace is safe) and the rate at which the car is traveling is completely irrelevant, if you want to travel fast on the public road use the motorway not back lanes.

Certain cars are unsuitable for driving quickly because of the relative lack of feedback or progression they give meaning they are neither satisfying nor particularly easy to drive near but never quite at the limit, overweight overly power assisted cars that are very dynamically capable spring to mind, as do a lot of racing cars, anything with wings and slicks would be hard to drive reliably at 9/10s cold. These cars simply have not been designed with driving satisfaction in mind.

Driving fast is different altogether, and again does not require a high average speed, driving fast requires the car to be driven on and slightly over its limits for the conditions with a small safety window, you can't drive a car fast bellow its limits. Road rally cars are driven fast, and when in a competitive environment is the only time I have ever driven or would consider driving truly fast on the road, obviously basic safety and a bit of caution has to be taken but the objective is to get the car from A to B as quickly as possible and high power front wheel drive and all wheel drive cars (which are very good at this the fact they're boring to drive) being driven fast struggle to maintain the average speed of 30mph down tight narrow lanes with a typical navigator on a typical 12 car rally. Cars are driven genuinely fast, at and over their limits, on autosolo and autocross events.

Quote :and also that cars without power steering have better feedback.

It's not up for debate that a car without power assisted steering gives you a direct mechanical linkage with the wheels, a car with any form of power assisted/indirect steering does not give a mechanical linkage and whilst it may not be too bad it will never give as much feedback through the wheel.

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To which I say, fine that's his opinion. Mine is different, I get my buzz from making progress, not larking about with a car that is easy to slide and ultimately has poor performance, imagining I'm taking a really fast car to the limit on a race track.

You don't need a really fast car to enjoy yourself on a race track, any car can be driven fast and pretty much every type of car has been driven fast on a race track, the 2CVs in the 24 hour race are driven fast, on their limit. They are still going fast and it will still be far more rewarding to drive one fast at that pace than to effortlessly follow driving at a mundane pace in another car (even a Lada!). Driving the Morgan quickly/fast on track is absolutely fantastic fun but I'd far rather drive a Leon quickly than have to follow it in the Morgan

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I want a car that's going to get me from point A to point B quickly well within the limitations of the car, the road conditions and the law. I learned a long time ago how dangerous it is to take a vehicle to the limit, (or anywhere near), on a public road.

I think by the limit your simply talking about driving fast in a straight line, a vehicle can drive at very high speed well within its design limits without being anywhere near its limits. I agree that driving quickly in a straight line on the public road, whilst tempting, is totally pointless, drive a vehicle once as fast as it can go and the novelty will soon wear off, and whilst not particularly exciting can get you in trouble very quickly both with the law and other obstacles in your path, that's why I much prefer to drive faster at a third of the speed of the typical motorcyclist who seems thrilled with the fact his machine can go forwards (but not stop) very quickly.

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Older cars have a lower safe performance envelope and are more likely to crash at any given speed. That's just a fact. No matter how much you "fun" you think they are to drive.

Older cars suddenly jump into bushes on their own do they? People have been driving/racing/rallying just about every type of car on the road and none to my knowledge have demonstrated this curious habit. Any car driven to its limit for the conditions (which can only be established by feel) and driven there quite comfortably, of course older cars may have lower limits or curious habits which the driver must respect through feeling the fact he's going over them! A lorry is by your logic far more likely to crash at any given speed because it is a dynamically less capable vehicle, as we all know this is total bollocks and generally the most likely vehicles to have accidents (through going way beyond their limits and the driver failing to save the situation) are relatively modern hatchbacks (popular with young boy racers) and expensive modern sportscars and coupes (owned as a status symbol and driven totally incompetently far too fast).

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I get more satisfaction from the actual speed of the drive not how the car feels in my hands. But then I'm an ex motorcyclist and I'm used to real pace and cars just feel slow to me.

So in other words you like going fast in a straight line?
ajp71
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Quote from gezmoor :Driving a car fast is never boring irrespective of which wheels are being driven

You're still missing the point.
ajp71
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Quote from S14 DRIFT :Yes, I have noticed this. Namely the lack of driving enjoyment is due to the electric power steering systems which are devoid of feel and weight. But the car that the average Joe can buy (I.E a Focus, small BMW such as a 320 or a 120d, Mondeo or the like) tend to be the better steerers and are, in my opinion, 'slow enough' to be safe. Then again, even a Zonda has a progressive throttle!

They're all too big and heavy, don't have any true feedback in the way that even the Lada manages and a modern 2 litre car is too fast to drive hard on the road unless you want to be approaching 3 figures down a country lane, which is great fun until you meet something.

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95% of road drivers have no clue about understeer, or oversteer. Or steering on the throttle. They just know that a car has 4 wheels and it's what gets them to work and it's what takes their family about in relative safety. MOST FWD cars don't have lift of oversteer, most don't even do anything. Some, such as the Civic Type R (bar the new Spaceship shape one!) do this, as well as the infamous 205GTI, not mentioning many others. But the cars that do tend to be full on Hot Hatchbacks, driven by enthusiasts rather than John trying to get to work.

I can assure you that rightly or wrongly our Focus does oversteer when on the limit, was great fun with the back end out round Luffield and I hold my hands up as an idiotic novice who span through lift off oversteer at the Craner curves, thankfully *only* at 95mph because I was in a slow car
ajp71
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Quote from S14 DRIFT :I don't see a single journalist putting a Lada Riva/Niva estate above a Focus in terms of driving pleasure. Not in Autocar, Car, Evo, Top Gear or Auto Express(??) magazines anyway. Nor on any 'net review'!

Autocar rated it as having a much better gearbox than modern hatches, being more involving to drive, turning in with 'reasonable precision'.

'you can get pleasure from driving it. No joke'

Read some of the editorials in a magazine like Autocar, lots of journalists (Chris Harris springs to mind) are constantly harping on about both the lack of driving involvement in modern cars and how they're too fast to be enjoyed on the road.

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Anyway, it's all irrelevant really. FWD is cheaper, easier to use and much safer on a day to day basis. It's also just as much fun as a RWD up to 90% without any of the risks, and you will have a large boot and better rear legroom because the drive train isn't in the way.

How is a rear wheel drive car anymore dangerous, a car like the Lada (or any old rear wheel drive saloon) will understeer like there's no tommorrow with standard suspension setup and driving fast is still largely about countering understeer, but the throttle can be used for positive gain, whilst you can get the arse out the average road driver is going to have no issues with it suddenly jumping out on them, a well balanced front wheel drive car is actually potentially more dangerous for an incompetent driver because lift off oversteer will be made worse by a typical driver.

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Most slower cars are FWD, so you are infact saying they are better? :rolleyes:

There's a lot less wrong with low power light weight front wheel drive cars, they're less adversely effected by having everything going through one axle. On the road a well setup low power front wheel drive car will also be far more entertaining to drive than a considerably quicker high power front wheel drive car.
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