Oh "benjamin" <3 I feel your pain, but....aren't you repeating the same cry we have read here hundreds of times during last 7-8 years? Is it worth? The amount of bitterness you are carrying, doesn't sound healthy. Please, stop waiting, go, get a life. Do something else. Now you sound like a victim who lost his money, house and family.
I understand, once upon a time three guys made you happy for many years, with a ridiculous low cost. You were successful and respected racer in LFS community. Your life was running high, because those guys created a context where you can shine. But this all doesn't mean they are responsible of your happiness until end of your life. Time to grow up. Good luck!
no, this year, other years it was about fences and some other non tire physics related stuff. furthermore this topic is not about The_Great but about the question where LFS is going. if you want to know where The_Great is going feel free to open a topic in section off topic.
Let's just look outside of the box here. We're all here because we enjoy this game one way or another and despite the delay we all have to face the fact that Scavier are still working on the game and that this new update should be the biggest we've ever seen. This alone is worth the wait in my book.
If you can't post anything else than complains, maybe you should find something else to do with your life.
EDIT: LFS is a game, it shouldn't be the center of anyone's life beside the developers. Obsession is a form of mental illness.
Yes, you should - the wait will be over and you can start making your dream car.
I don't think there is a law which obligate you to work like 24/7, lol, are you serious? We live in a market economy, I mean the developers can work lets say 1 hour per 10 years, as long as there are people who are willing to buy their product, this is the only law.
They are working for themselves (not hired by some big company), so who are you to tell them otherwise?
This. It would also resolve the notion of "LFS is old game" BS, and bring in new money for development. And basically it's available almost for free, changing the logos, preparing new web, packaging, etc... like couple of weeks of work, and LFS2 is done. And ultimately, it may be launched as "early access", so it doesn't even have to be fully finished and working. Maybe even kickstart it first to scam some more money.
@Big Daddy: I'm not sure what you mean by "how can you wait all those years".
Do you think I'm like sitting behind PC, refreshing LFS page all the time, and waiting until the new tires physics is released? ... I simply live my life as is, doing all kind of other stupidities, and when(/if) the LFS will get update, I may try it eventually (actually last decade I pretty much don't have HW to play LFS, so I'm just checking the development, maybe I will buy some PC and wheel later when I will be retired, so from my point of view even another decade of wait is not a major problem, doesn't affect my current life much).
Or what do you actually expect? Should we all moan, how the LFS development is not progressing fast enough? How does *that* help-with/change anything?
Also it's not like devs are mysteriously silent, Scawen several times clearly stated, that they are happy with their current development process (even if it is slow, compared to other game developers), and that they don't plan to change it in any foreseeable future. I'm pretty sure it's been stated like every 3-4 years here on the forum, so you should have read it even if you read every second/third post of Scawen. So all those things you mention (VWS, ROC, tire physics) and everything else, is being released "when it's ready" and that's how also everything else in LFS up till now was released. They are not happy with the resulting speed of development too much, as they expected to advance much faster, but they still want to continue like this, so they don't find their current modus operandi as a problem. If you find it as a problem, it's then your problem, unfortunately.
Somehow funny that the guys who are most waiting things to happen, writing like "I don't understand how people can wait..." and "LFS fanboys" while seems obviously that they are the real fanboys w a i t i n g and taking all this LFS stuff too serious.
Being positive is just a general attitude towards life. Doesnt mean I believe anything to happen in LFS context. I am just happy Devs are with us and keep master server up. Oh... master server... that wonderful service they offer us for free year after year, decade after decade. For F R E E.
Actually I would love to see reactions of someones if no more LFS releases would come. But of course, its free will to be a negative person and choose complaining as life purpose. That's why internet forums were created for.
people are willing to write complete nonsense to wanting to stay in this bubble forever aren't they? forums are created to discuss reality, some forums are created to discuss fiction. most topics on this forum are fiction but not all, this one is reality but its hard to face reality. so lets,
censorize everything we dont like because its communism for the win
Care to quote this "nonsense" you're referring to? Discussion is a great thing to have, but once it gets down to calling different opinions "nonsense" without actually explaining why you think this way is just poor argumentation, it leads to nowhere. You're entitled to your opinion, but not everyone sees things same way as you would.
The development pace might be slow, but in my opinion it's better. Rushing things never works out okay, you end up doing more work than you actually planned plus the end result will be horrid. Especially in a simulation, if you'd push out a patch full of glitches you didn't remember to fix in a hurry because a few people demand updates, the people would still be unhappy because it'd be a glitchfest.
I'd much rather play with refined tyre physics than rushed tyre physics, no matter how much longer it will take.
No need to exaggerate. This isn't communism, but neither it is democracy. You are free to stay here as long as you play by the rules.
Thanks @Mountaindewzilla for picking those quotes. Hadn't read that Eric's quote on physics, sounds exciting.
Software development is not an easy task. It's not that you just take your pencil and start to draw a drawing. Adding intelligence into software often requires exponential amount of effort. In my point of view, the current target is already inhuman for two developers. On top of that, the need to merge several source code branches, sounds like a small nightmare. I simply can't believe they release both graphics and physics next year.
edit: Would be interesting to know how many lines of source code each release contains.
it was in the message above, too complicated to follow? first master server got cheered up upon.. its there for free, woohoo.. ye, its been copied already two times for free also. lets celebrate this as well. thanks ukraine brothers thanks brasil fantastic job all for F R E E. then some description about internet forums is being given, old greek philosophers would cry.
anyway this licensed fanboys are masters of derailing a topic if they dont like the subject being discussed. i see this happening too at any trump tweet, it are so called social justice warriors. they are here too with their lfs religion. do not dare to say anything bad about lfs religion, do not try to burst the bubble with realism, do not write facts or otherwise we need to start censorize it.
whole lfs fanbase seems to be on repeat, raving about some detail which is being created year after year forgetting about the whole picture. its like massively cheering about a candle which is being lid in the siberian cold while nine out of ten already are dead or seeked heat somewhere else.
so many quotes about tire physics on this page. its a very simple question to answer. are new tire physics being released or not?
tire physics released yes means LFS is going somewhere
tire physics released soon means LFS is going nowhere E V E R
tire physics released never means LFS is going somewhere
its that easy. no nightmare, no drama, just a simple question to answer.