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Quote from sinbad :Beast of a car, but his right hand appears to be simply along for the ride. Anyone else think he looks like he'd get into trouble quickly if the car no longer tracked a nice straight path?

he's driving on a public road, and has to expect a Winabago in every corner
Yes that should be expected, but it seems he wouldn't be ready if he got all crossed up.
Quote from GianniC : wtf officials:

1. Conditions = not for racing.
2. Let him just lay there, walk ? Err.. NO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... BfHow&feature=related

That has to be one of the most frightening and disturbing things I've ever seen, the way he's walking around look like the plastic of his visor has melted into his face. Marshalling is absolute DIRE. Driver safety is important, not stopping a smouldering wreck from smoking.... I'm gonna warn people if they get emotional about injuries and stuff then they shouldn't watch this, I'll be honest, it will probably stop you from eating/sleeping. You don't see blood but it's the whole concept that the guy was almost burnt alive, he's in alot of pain. You can see it...
The most telling image in the entire Senna vs Schumacher debate is the attached (taken after Senna spun out of the 1994 Brazilian GP trying to catch Schumacher). I don't have an opinion on who was better, but this image is very telling on Senna's mindframe at the time, I think.
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Quote from BlueFlame :That has to be one of the most frightening and disturbing things I've ever seen, the way he's walking around look like the plastic of his visor has melted into his face.

His visor did melt into his face.

The incident happened in 1998 at Fuji. The Porsche driver was Tomohiko Sunako, and the Ferrari driver was Tetsuya Ota. They weren't actually racing; the incident happened during the parade lap when the safety car drove at an excessive pace across the start/stop line then slowed down abruptly.

Ota required facial reconstruction and his right side was partially paralysed. He took the organisers to court and won.
Pretty nasty indeed. That is pretty much my only fear of racing. Actually, it's probably my only real fear full stop - burning to death, or even near death. Just horrid. And it's not like those cars wouldn't have had proper, up-to-date fuel cells; it's a very real danger.

<shudders>
Just don't think about it until it happens.

I still don't understand how the fuel cells split like that, there have been a lot heavier accidents with no flames at all, it was like something out of the 70s, surely the fuel cells onboard can't hve been very strong.

And how such a violent accident can happen under the safety car.
Thats a horrid incident.

That's the great thing about human minds - I think about it now, I might even think about it at the circuit if I'm asked about it directly, but once you're in the car you don't think about stuff like that at all. During 'an incident' you probably don't start thinking about until after you've stopped anyway.

But now, in the cold light of day (well, it's night, so the cold lights of my living room), it's a scary thought.
Burning alive and waking up in a coffin (burried alive) are the two things I fear the most.

Don't ask about the second one - No idea why. I just keep thinking that I will wake up inside a coffin. I fear it so much, I am asking to get cremated.

OT much.
I think suddenly having no brakes is scarier, its not nice suddenly becoming a passenger. But yeah when you start thinking about these things is when you start making mistakes.
Quote from samjh :His visor did melt into his face.

The incident happened in 1998 at Fuji. The Porsche driver was Tomohiko Sunako, and the Ferrari driver was Tetsuya Ota. They weren't actually racing; the incident happened during the parade lap when the safety car drove at an excessive pace across the start/stop line then slowed down abruptly.

Ota required facial reconstruction and his right side was partially paralysed. He took the organisers to court and won.

The video posted earlier misses out one of the most important parts of the story: Ota only survived because another driver (Shinichi Yamaji) saw the accident, stopped his car, grabbed the fire extinguisher and ran to the burning Ferrari to put out the flames. He single-handedly rescued Ota from the car, and then the marshals come up and make the injured driver get himself to the ambulance!
Quote from GianniC :Someone saw the European Superstock 600 championship ? Just saw a review from that on Motors TV. Don't like motorcycle racing mostly, but wow, this was a thrill! Great passing passes, really on the edge racing (how do they keep control of such monsters in those turns!) and championship decission in the last turn of the last round... 1 point difference only. Nuts, kids from 15-20 years old... Need to have balls for this racing!

Some Youtube footage found, but it's only from 2008... Just one race, but 2009 was a lot more exciting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9afSABoTOL4

English guy his first win against the champion... In 2009 Rea won the championship - also with great racing!

Me yes i am working there last year mate... I know Gino Re too...its relly good rider... Here is my video from superstock 600
SST 600 Nurburgring 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzdDxqYpm_I

SST 600 Brno 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3hjvlNrB8g

SST600 race Monza 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTkKVRuHo9Q
Quote from ChiliFan :The video posted earlier misses out one of the most important parts of the story: Ota only survived because another driver (Shinichi Yamaji) saw the accident, stopped his car, grabbed the fire extinguisher and ran to the burning Ferrari to put out the flames. He single-handedly rescued Ota from the car, and then the marshals come up and make the injured driver get himself to the ambulance!

That explains why the driver seemed to have been just abandoned, if you were a fellow driver it's the marshalls duty to escort the driver.
Quote from 5haz :I think suddenly having no brakes is scarier, its not nice suddenly becoming a passenger. But yeah when you start thinking about these things is when you start making mistakes.

It's not happened to me, so I can only speculate, but I'd imagine 90% of the time is spent trying 'other things' to stop the car, and the last 10% saying "this is gonna be a big one, better brace myself and take my hands off the wheel". I still doubt, unless you're in for a very very long brake-less ride, that you have much time to devote to being scared.
People tend to forget the handbrake in these situations... That's what it was invented for!
Most proper race cars don't have a hand brake.
Quote from pearcy_2k7 :Most proper race cars don't have a hand brake.

True. You could try ramming the brake bias all the way back and all the way forward but if the master cylinder is the problem then you won't have rear nor front brakes, I'm interested in hearing what everybody would do in that event, would you throw the car sideways to scrub off speed? Ram down the gears? If you could get the car rolling backwards you could use the forward gears to slow it down I guess, hopefully the clutch doesn't lock out though.

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