I have a copy of RBR as does anyone installing RSRBR. I think their reasoning is that this way they can release a version with updates without the install joy these mods bring.

I believe the Real rally mod are doing the same.

Who even own's the licence these days ?

Bluntly, it's a grey area so lets see if the owner puts their hand up.

Or even re-releases it which would be a great idea as legal copies are nearly impossible to find now.

Anyone know where to get a copy of this and what mods I should get?

Looking on youtube earlier and seen some of the 2017 mods... I openly admit I'm such a noob when it comes to this so anyone willing to hold my hand?? would be greatly appreciated!

This is an attempt to be legal here.

Second hand is probably your only legit choice now, allegedly Games Planet have it but it doesn't seem to be listed, at least I can't find it.

The IP: Get a comfy chair as this is a bit long.
"IP: This was developed by Warthog Studios. Warthog was sold to Gizmondo, along with the IP for RBR. The game was released on the Gizmondo by the developer "Gizmondo Studios Manchester". Gizmondo went out of business, and Carl Freer, founder of Gizmondo, claimed to have purchased Gizmondo's IP assets from the liquidation of the company. I assume the owner of the IP is Carl Freer if he is telling the truth (if you know anything about Carl Freer and his Gizmodo partner Mikael Ljungman, than you know this is a BIG if).

Publishing rights: SCI Games owned the publishing rights, and was the publisher for both the PC release from Warthog Studios and the Gizmondo release from Gizmondo Studios Manchester. SCI Bought Edios and released all games as Edios from that point, then Square-Enix bought Edios (SCI). The terms of this publishing deal is unknown, but I would assume the publishing rights probably have expired and there is no holder of publisher rights for RBR at this time.

Car / personality rights: No one is privvy to these deals either, and I really don't know how they normally work. My assumption is that the cars were licened to be used in the game, and if there were to be a new publisher, they could publish the original game without having to relicense."

So, no one seems to know who actually owns it or if the 'Richard Burns' and the cars IP rights are still valid.

Still here ?

Try reading this, https://pretendracecars.net/2016/12/11/still-the-king-richard-burns-rally-2016/

This is Richard Burns Rally 2016, it has a set of inbuilt mods and plays really well.

Try it and see what you think.
I'd posted this as a Xmas pressy a few posts ago on this thread.

EDIT: The subreddit has some great conversations on mods, getting it running etc.
https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/5i3btq/richard_burns_rally_2016_updated_and_free/

Quote from Racer X NZ :

This is an attempt to be legal here.

Second hand is probably your only legit choice now, allegedly Games Planet have it but it doesn't seem to be listed, at least I can't find it.

The IP: Get a comfy chair as this is a bit long.
"IP: This was developed by Warthog Studios. Warthog was sold to Gizmondo, along with the IP for RBR. The game was released on the Gizmondo by the developer "Gizmondo Studios Manchester". Gizmondo went out of business, and Carl Freer, founder of Gizmondo, claimed to have purchased Gizmondo's IP assets from the liquidation of the company. I assume the owner of the IP is Carl Freer if he is telling the truth (if you know anything about Carl Freer and his Gizmodo partner Mikael Ljungman, than you know this is a BIG if).

Publishing rights: SCI Games owned the publishing rights, and was the publisher for both the PC release from Warthog Studios and the Gizmondo release from Gizmondo Studios Manchester. SCI Bought Edios and released all games as Edios from that point, then Square-Enix bought Edios (SCI). The terms of this publishing deal is unknown, but I would assume the publishing rights probably have expired and there is no holder of publisher rights for RBR at this time.

Car / personality rights: No one is privvy to these deals either, and I really don't know how they normally work. My assumption is that the cars were licened to be used in the game, and if there were to be a new publisher, they could publish the original game without having to relicense."

So, no one seems to know who actually owns it or if the 'Richard Burns' and the cars IP rights are still valid.

Still here ?

Try reading this, https://pretendracecars.net/2016/12/11/still-the-king-richard-burns-rally-2016/

This is Richard Burns Rally 2016, it has a set of inbuilt mods and plays really well.

Try it and see what you think.
I'd posted this as a Xmas pressy a few posts ago on this thread.

EDIT: The subreddit has some great conversations on mods, getting it running etc.
https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/5i3btq/richard_burns_rally_2016_updated_and_free/

Thank you sir

Still enjoying RBRvr here but need some setups.
Hard to find nowadays,anyone still reads this has any?

Thanks

Try using friend Google
https://www.racedepartment.com/forums/rbr-setups.142/
https://www.reddit.com/r/simrally/wiki/setups
https://www.reddit.com/r/simrally/comments/31qxgr/rbr_car_setups/

My guideline for RBR car setups, get a brake bias that suits you, play lots......
Play with spring rates, softer is a good start, raise dampening a bit, play lots.........
After that just find what you feel works for you, drive around minor setup issues unless you've really gone badly wrong, thats because this game focuses on smoothness and skill far more than the final 5% car setup.
Your not on a racetrack so it comes down to your preferred driving style far more than a hotlap car setup.
Learn to set the car up for a corner well before the actual corner, learn to dab the handbrake and flick the car around, brake early and keep up your momentum, and above all, don't overdrive the car as that is the biggest mistake that you can make.

Quote from Racer X NZ :

Try using friend Google
https://www.racedepartment.com/forums/rbr-setups.142/
https://www.reddit.com/r/simrally/wiki/setups
https://www.reddit.com/r/simrally/comments/31qxgr/rbr_car_setups/

My guideline for RBR car setups, get a brake bias that suits you, play lots......
Play with spring rates, softer is a good start, raise dampening a bit, play lots.........
After that just find what you feel works for you, drive around minor setup issues unless you've really gone badly wrong, thats because this game focuses on smoothness and skill far more than the final 5% car setup.
Your not on a racetrack so it comes down to your preferred driving style far more than a hotlap car setup.
Learn to set the car up for a corner well before the actual corner, learn to dab the handbrake and flick the car around, brake early and keep up your momentum, and above all, don't overdrive the car as that is the biggest mistake that you can make.

They're all guides was after actual setups.
I used to have some akos setups but lost them.
Cannot find actual setups

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I found my collection of setups on an old drive.
gimme a shout if anybody wants some

I know this sounds silly but does anybody play this game with mouse steering ?

Quote from bowst :

I know this sounds silly but does anybody play this game with mouse steering ?

Yea, kind of silly.

If you just take a look on lfsworld hotlap charts you will see plenty of hotlap times uploaded which are using mouse as steering controller.
Example snapshot attached here from popular demo combo BL1 with FBM and from first 25 times 11 are made with mouse.

edit:
Oh just realized you apparently ment RBR and not lfs, no idea if mouse steering is possible in RBR, sry for not looking the subject more accurately.