Quote from Stuart Fleming :

No the physics aren't complete, tbh i don't think they changed much from the gMotor1 days they were just updated, thats maybe just the way i felt it. It may not have been released in stages but there were at least 3-4 big updates throughout the 2 years and a few more smaller ones. the next product will be based on everything learnt from rFactor, that hardly deems it completely useless?

Well lets only hope they learn from their mistakes =) There is alot of ground they need to catch up on when you compair LFS physics to Rsucktor.

Yeah it's not error free but it's getting there =) Best coverage yet! There is also a radio cast for the quali races. Lawrence Simpson did a great job commentating with Becky and I hope he wants to do it again =)

I put Rfactor on my computer. I promtly deleted it. thats not me being a fanboy, thats how crap it was. I was driving STRAIT and it felt like I was in a full fledged tires squeeling corner for how much steering wheel pull I was getting. I think the game is utter pants and I will not be giving it a third chance again.

Maybe this is why they thought they needed to release a version2. It seems funny that everyone is following how LFS is doing it's production of LFS.

Quote from MustangSVT :

I'm still surprised that LFS hasn't gotten more and more popular. It's way better than all the other sims. So what if it doesn't real cars and tracks, at least they're enjoyable.

The way I see it (and I have rFactor and GTR 2 and GT Legends and so on and so forth), the special thing about LFS is how easy and simple it is to get online. Make a player (name, info so on), then just get online with S2, you've got servers with different cars to choose from and you just jump in. There's very few lag problems, it's got great online code, good community to race with. It's nowhere near as simple (or as enjoyable for that matter) to get GTR 2 or rFactor online.

But I guess other people feel different about that.

Well part of that is people who play other games in general don't know about LFS and it's great online play. It's up to the community to showcase that somehow. One way is making articles for ASS. There are plenty more, use your imagination and come up with something =)

Quote from vari :

That's just it, 5, 10 or 20? Big difference there if you think about it. 0 times 2 is still zero

I understand if this cannot be revealed, no problem. I can make a ballpark guess

I guess your missing the point I am trying to say. Your not supposed to know, thats the whole idea of the system.

20851/525 = 39.7 laps per post

1510/525 = 2.9 hosts joined per post

635/525 = 1.2 races won per post

2157/525 = 4.1 races finished per post

Quote from tristancliffe :

It's because the standard of drivers in racing simulators isn't actually that high, so people stick to combinations they know and are practiced at. I tend to find it's only the better drivers that use 'non standard' combinations, because they have the low level skill to be quick and clean in most cars at most tracks. If you have to do 300 laps to get within 3 seconds of a WR then you're not going to fancy having a few races in a combo you don't know because you'd be off the pace.

I think this is the reason why. People stick with what they know because they don't want their ego's bruised.

Quote from vari :

I'm just looking for an excuse to use the XRT all the time no matter what the combo and opposition is

Might encourage others to use RB4 and XRT too, who knows. I was under the impression that you still have to be fairly competitive in the XRT to equal a win in an FXO but not sure, really.

Well that site gives you a good idea. You make double the points in XRT as you do FXO. In a full server anywhere between 5-10 people will recieve points. So with double you could place in the top 5 and still make the same amount of points as someone in the FXO who won. I don't know the exact points but thats not the idea behind the system. The system is there to make close racing, not to see who can get the most points per race.

Amazing =)

Quote from vari :

Oh well. I suppose one could make an accurate enough guess by driving and taking notes about the accumulated points but I was hoping that someone could save me the trouble

Please don't do that, it will ruin the fun of it =P

Quote from vari :

Hey the sun shines in this thread again

Wondering about points balancing...Could someone tell me what position in the XRT equals a win in the FXO points wise? (assuming that other variables stay the same)

P.S. It'd be nice if the site had more information about these things, track rotation, times and such

Well in the XRT you would get more than double the points than that of an FXO for placing in the same position. An RB4 would get double. There are a ton of factors, but that gives you a rough idea.

For exact rules pls click http://license.ukct.net/

Quote from SamH :

Vain, we changed it last night so that on the Silver & Gold server, the XRT and RB4 were the only ones accessible to Silver licenced drivers. Even the Gold licenced drivers (apart from one or two) opted to drive XRT and RB4. I was surprised how keen people were, when nudged, to drive the two slower cars. Almost entire fields.. and it was KEWL!

Awesome! I hate getting beat by FXO's simply because they are faster on the straits than me =)

I definatly agree that ASS could be better, but with the way they run the magazine it's only as good as the content they recieve. Most of the articles are brought in by "fanboys" of each different type of game making the articles hard to read from someone that doesn't play the game.

IF someone who was more professional in their writing skills was to send them articles I am sure it would sound a ton better than some of the art's run in the magazine currently.

Great idea mate =) I have a 10 year old brother that will love this server =)

I don't know if I like that idea, depends on the rate I guess.

OT: Sam get on TS =P

Lets hope a certian someone doesn't see this

How is the league coming along? Sounds like fun =)

Quote from Hoellsen :

There have been articles about the content of LFS. What I feel is more necessary is not any more stuff about the content of the sim, but by covering community activities. That includes things like STCC (there, I said it, and I didn't mean it in a bay way ) servers and most of all reports about the various leagues going on (OWRL, ESL, STCC, MoE and what else we all have). ASS is not read by folks who aren't involved in simracing yet but by simmers. Simmers mostly (except the ignorant few) know what the sims are about, even the ones they don't drive. They know their content. What they don't know is how they can exploit the content, meaning what activities and entities are available to them. This is what sparks more interest in a sim and this is what keeps folks IN the sim.

Of course the league organizers could provide the content, but quite frankly, they do quite a bit of work "just" by providing the league they run. Coverage of that league should be done by others, which is btw also a problem even for a LFS-"internal" page such as LFS News. We, as the LFS community, are lacking folks who do not only want to consume but also want to contribute. That is what unfortunately sets us apart from the other sim communities and is responsible for having too little coverage of what we do.

Yes This is the type of stuff they are looking for =) Anything to do with the community pertaining to LFS. For leagues this would be a great opportunity =) They are receptive, you just have to start dialog with them.

Quote from Patussay :

In autosimsport "Fifth column" January issue:
Best simulation winner 2005:Live for Speed
Sim personality of the year: Victor van Vlaardingen

and why they dont have LFS articles then?

Because nobody feeds them information =) Granted I don't think it's the best way to do things but it's working. They have monthly viewership 10k plus a month.

Quote from Linsen :

If that's what they're looking for, and the respective article would be marked as an "inside"-view, that's a different story, of course. Sorry, if I missed that point.

Happy to help =)

Quote from Linsen :

I absolutely agree with this. No matter if ASS is free or not, if they want to be a journalistic product (which is certainly the impression they try to convey), they can't rely on articles about a certain product written by "fanboys" (no pun intended) of that particular product. They need articles written by unbiased sim-experts. And given the fact that they see themselves as sim-experts, I really don't see a reason why at least one person of their staff shouldn't be able to have a closer look into LFS. Just my humble opinion, of course.

Well they do do content reviews by themselves. They more asking for articles about the community and whats happening in the game that could only be seen from "inside"

Talk to the editors to see what type of article they will want for their Feburary Issue. Write it up, possibly post it in here first, then send it off to ASS to be published, their editors will edit it for grammar errors possibly reformat it a bit. Depends on how good the article is in the first place.

BTW there will be a suprise in ASS on Saturday =) More along ASS WILL be running an article pertaining to LFS

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From what I hear they are eager to get articles about LFS and wish to run as many as they can get their hands on =)

Quote from al heeley :

Yep, inforno run an excellent setup site. It will eventually get filled with the other combos, makes no sense to have to resort to STCC for that. Now STCC has had such success they need to lay on a couple more servers

I am not sure how many more servers thier box can handle =)

I use inferno setups 1/2 the time. If i have the time I will make my own, then when it come close to STCC race I beg Hannu or NoGhost for a setup because mine isn't right =P

Quote from maczo :

Well, that is your opinion. For me - if I can put much less effort to achieve the same, means that it is easier.

If all your out to do is beat X:XX.XX time then sure it's easier, but if your trying to find the limits of the car it's not all that easy to drive.

Quote from maczo :

Huh? illepall
I don't know about you, but usually after 20 laps on a given track with XRT I get the same times as after 5 with FXO. Nothing more to say, really.

This has nothing to do with the FXO being easier to drive, which it's not. It's just that the FXO is just that much faster than either the other cars making it seem easier.