Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

That guy is crearly looking for attention. This thread has no more purpose now: the guy has been spotted and doesn't regret anything. Fair enough, everything has been said. Now why feeding him endlessly when there's nothing more to add Arguing with him is just pointless, unless you like very unconsistant arguments I guess...

Accurate summary of the last 30 posts:

LFSF: "YER JUST A CHEATER!!1!ELEVEN!"
Cheater: "I ONLY WANTED TO TRY TEH H4X F00S"
LFSF: "THATS STILL CHEATING NUB"
Cheater: "YES BUT HAVENT YOU CRACKED SONG IN THE PAST? AND MOVIES? SO STFU AND STOP ARGUING WITH ME BECAUSE IM THAT AWESOME, LOOK AT THE 1337 ADDONS IVE CREATED"

/me thinks it's now time to /thread

well said

Quote from J.D.SKAlpel :

Have you at home some illegal music, movies, programs, games?? YES...
Than you are pirate tooo, ban your PC, IP, HDD, bla bla bla....
If you think -> im as child, see first to you.... baby...

damn man , what's youre age ? 12ish ? sounds like the skool playground to me.
you did , he did , you did , he did , man up and accept you lost respect due to
those cheats/hacks what ya ma called it's and learn from it , if you want to be
respected stop using gay cheats to mask the fact you have no skills
this is what you deserve for youre actions .

Quote from rich uk :

I must say I prefer the G25 over the G27. ff feels better

same here , and you have the option to select either sequential or H-shifter with it , to answer the poster his question , no the pedals have no force feedback , for the rest they are pretty much the same thing if you exclude the extra 4 buttons and rev lights

Quote from skywatcher122 :

haX nvr wins in the end

there should be no exceptions for haxors IMO

using hacks like that is lame:thumbsdow

Quote from Ismaiah :

Hi, I signed up on LFS a couple of months ago. I love LFS..but sadly I can't get a s1 or s2 license at this time. I would love to drift with a better than the demo car.

I am currently 15 years old.
I live in the U.S. (in the State of Texas).
I love to play basketball and games on the PC. I have a pretty decent PC. But I am planning on getting a new one eventually.

Thanks,

Ismaiah

welcome and get a s2 license first

that better ?

Quote from KillaBOFC :

umm REDNECK a farmer who tending all bent over all day in the field they would get a sunburn on the back of the neck ''hence'' the word redneck..
Yes im a ass according to the wife and i don't care about spelling it doesn't make the world go around been out of school 24years now..
And according to my rights in the US i can speak and say as i wish I can spell just choose not to its a freakin <<< yea i typed freakin im a redneck to I junk for a living you can watch the roadkill threw my floor boards I have a wife who bitches more than Rosana Bar and a 70pound 1/2 German-Shepard blue-tick coon dog mix great dog ..AS a redneck i find it funny how people worry who some one spells looks who the worship how the dress or how they talk ITS STUPID. Im proud to b a redneck and live in the best country who has kicked the chit out of every country who as has crossed our pass and pissed in beer

so youre a gass guzling , hamburger muching , beer drinking , carpet bombing redneck american rebel ?

just kidding , many of my friends are americans :biggrinfl

Quote from Jeff871 :

sorry can yall tell me how to get into hood veiw

is there a Hood view for this , i normlly use hood view in any racing/driving game i play but here i use cockpit view because i failed to find a hood view

Quote from dadge :

seriously bud, look up the history of the name "redneck". you should take it as a compliment.

wear a scarve when exposted to the sun and you won't get a redneck

Quote from Jeff871 :

im trying but i try to drift my car gets traction idk lol i need help

feel the force

seriously though , did you look at the drift setup's that are around so you have a base guide into tweaking youre rides youreself or even just be lazy and use those to get slideways ?

Quote from Juzaa :

When lapped you usually have to go away your racing line. For example in the first corner you should slow down not in the racing line but as left of the road as possible so the other one can overtake you from inside. Take a look how overtaken people drive in f1 races. If there's coming a hard part where can't be overtaken and the overtaker is right behind, slower one usually goes away from his line and lets the faster one overtake from inside the corner and thus make the overtaking as fast and swift as possible. The track is so wide that you don't have to go to grass while letting faster people overtake you. In the first corner for example I've seen 3 cars side by side while going to the first corner and they all made it through without a crash. There is enough room, you just have to remember that you should give room in corners by either slowing and driving the corner wide so the faster one can overtake you from the inside, or you brake too early without being on the racing line and let the faster one drvie through the corner through the line. Don't wait for the next big straight, rather let them pass when they are behind you. It'll slow you down a bit but it's better than ruining someone's race or crashing with a faster racer who thinks he owns the road. Just keep watching the difference between you and the faster one. As a basic rule I'd say that when overtaker is about 1 second behind it's time start looking for your mirrors and figure where you'll let him pass. Once he's about 0.5 seconds behind give room unless you're sure that he can't reach you in next corner. When driving in straight all you need to do is slow a bit and let the faster one overtake you.

Hope that helped

again read what i wrote in the post above youre's , it's not like i'm self absorbed and unaware of the where about's of my fellow racers here and i have enough skill to go thru a corner with three or even four others without as much as scrapping there paint or cracking there mirror's you know .
i did a rally training and got above average driving skills and actual real life hands on racing experience so i might even save and upload a replay of what i'm talking about for you at a point to make clear what i'm talking about here .
only track i know the layout of by now is BL1 and i still drive it casual and consistent to learn and find the perfect line , braking point's with optimal speed's and tinker with setup's without rear ending or wrecking other player's because that's the kind of DOG i am and i can say that the skilled drivers i had the pleasure to drive with could state that i might not be the fastest around or even the most skilled i surely am not a rolling roadblock or pest on four wheels out to ruining there hotlaps/world record attempts but that i will give them the space they need to overtake/bypass me without having to slowdown or loose there perfect racing line smoothly and not have trouble with me as a basic rule by witch i race and play racing games .
basic rule 1 : don't scratch the car
basic rule 2 : don't wreck the car
basic rule 3 : don't hinder other players
basic rule 4 : don't get angry and try to get even when shit happend
( in other words : don't do a > you wreck me i'll wreck you first chance i get )
basic rule 5 : have fun and winning a race might be fun but it's not my goal here
okay , i tried to explain it as good as i can without the benefit of english beeing my native tongue here and i hope juzaa that you understand the purposse of me making this thread here .
cheers

P.S. oh and by the way on a 5 lap race on BL1 i will not get lapped if i don't get wrecked in the first lap , first corner by anyone , i'm not that slow

Last edited by the-dog, Thu 3 Jun 2010, 08:38.

Quote from Juzaa :

FIRST everything I say is based on my assumptions and given data as the situation as we don't have a replay so please correct me if I'm wrong in any matter.

You were overtaken in the chicane in first sector? If so I believe you could've just let the guy pass before the chicane in the first corner. Normally you can't lose much time even to the pros in the chicane since everybody drives it with full gas. It's basically same as driving straight. The way I see it you either released throttle which caused the faster racer to try to overtake you which ended badly or the gap between you two was so little that you should've known better than not giving room.

I'm not blaming only you for the crash since the faster racer obviously did the move that caused the crash but let's think it on his view: He might've had a tight race and worn tires in which case he needed every second and tried to overtake because of that. Or he might have thought that you weren't going to be slowing in the chicane and once he realized that you slowed there was no time to brake and he tried to overtake you and called you a noob because you slowed in the corner, not very good thing to do but many racers only call others noobs instead of telling them what they did wrong. Any way my advice is that you look the map, not only the blue flag. If you keep checking your mirrors when you see someone faster coming closer to you you can easily avoid these crashes.

The basic guideline is that if you are the one being overtaken you should always give room so that the faster one wouldn't lose much time. If you cause the driver to brake because of you in the chicane he loses about 2 seconds that lap. If you had let this overtaker overtake you in the first corner he wouldn't have lost time at all or at least he couldn't have complained.

It's the classic first corner disaster waiting to happen scenario , if i get lapped i'll slow down to a virtual crawl making sure i dont hinder the fast guys in there racing experience , but this is like i come in to the corner with a good speed and this guy thinks he can plow right thru me because he can use me as his brakes or maybe he had something in his eyes or whatever , or maybe he uses a driving view floating on a chair 35 feet behind and above the car and thinks i use the same view so ill let go of my line an let him pass , but i dont , i use cockpit view and i get slammed violently of the track and racing line , nothing i can do really but suffer the damage and verbal abuse after the thing happend , same thing will happen every time those guys are behind me because they just wont brake and seem to practise "wallriding/player bashing" tactics on every corner where the are close of near other players .
i will not force others off there racing line to get ahead and expect others to follow the same racing rule that would aply here , but ill let them pass in places where i can do so without having to go on the grass or spin out ( i think thats 1 of the basic rules set in the racing guidelines in this forum right ? )
people can say or think it's me that is the sour loser here wining about getting wrecked after basicly ruining a much faster player then i am his race, but i dont think so , as a result ill wait untill all the others are past me and then ill start racing passing those superior speed racers in that same first corner where they spin out / crash up with some other unlucky player ( at times it's up to 4 players that get the short end of the stick there "BL1" ) because the seem to have a 30/50 mph speed difference going into that chicane .

Quote from AndRand :

I dont know if I have ANY laptimes with FBM

You do on BL1 and it's only a tiny difference though , we both are in the 1.16 region

Quote from JPeace :

Get S2 while ur at it.

QFT , without it the wheel would be useless , the demo will grow old in a hurry

Quote from Jeff871 :

i dnt have nothing just labtop

better start saving up then , and check a couple of sites on the net , the prices can differ a lot of you look around a bit .
if i wear you i would save up for a G25 , that's not the cheapest but it will last ya a lifetime and never wear down

Quote from obsolum :

That's alright, we can all see which server it was by just looking up your race results on LFSW

arf arf arf:yummy:

Quote from Inouva :

To the op, i know what you mean,
My favorite server is Cargame.nl s2

ill surely will hop in and give it a go , thx

Quote from jakeeatworld :

By the sounds of it you were on a Demo server racing FBM(could have already been established but I don't have time to read), If that is the case then you should really expect that, I have only came across one good Demo server, which was Blackwood XFG XRG, but there were still some wreckers on there, but the regulars made sure to get them out.
As for the blue flag situation, I fully agree, You have 3!!!!! warnings to move for leading cars in real life, so why on earth should you be made to jump out the way, possibly causing more danger to the passing cars, as soon as the first flag is shown?
That's why I like the airio set up on [AMG], 5 blue flag warnings then spectated or kicked, I can't really remember.
As for fair racing, you should try FM FOX, really good, mostly clean stuff there, and there is always some friendly guy to help you out with a set, which by the sound of things, you need.
If all this has been mentioned previously, then sorry for the spam!

well i wont name and defame the server but it wasnt a demo server .
and keep the good servers coming , i can never have a shortage of good servers and try the fm fox server surely .
not even sure this was just a off day for that server because i drove there the day before and there where some skilled helpfull drivers there at that time witch made me come back there for seconds . advise is never spam no matter how many times it would get repeated . thx

Quote from AndRand :

You are not on road, you are on racetrack - overtaking in turn is allowed

true enough , but it seldom ends well for both party's involved and IMO is just dumb

Quote from AndRand :

My advice - do it with AIs, when you can race with (and overtake) AI1 PRO level (... let say AI2 :tilt it means you are ready to go online... to be 3s off the pack

thats good advice , ill give it a go although i race multiplayer racing games to racce other players

Quote from AndRand :

rear bump in the corner is damn fecking irritating and is obvious fault by the overtaking. Although bump in front end usually means too late closing doors - of course at apex, not outside rumble strip

QFT

btw i just checked youre fast lap in fbm on bl1 and youre slower then i am

Quote from AndRand :

well, in corners due to lower speed, distances are smaller, they are braking much later, go thru turns much quicker... it is their responsibility to overtake safely but if you make room to overtake you must be consistent - stay outside to let them pass. Which is good way to obey blue flag also.

true enough , but in a chicane with virtually no room to overtake somebody it's a dumb strategy at best , better would be to wait untill i cleared that peace and then overtake me where i have room to let somebody thats faster to overtake me safely , road rules state you dont overtake another car in a corner because of the obvious danger involved with that manuever , also let me state that if i have the chance to let somebody overtake i let them no problem , im not trying to win a race , im trying to do a consistend race regardless of what place i end in , i will slow down to a virtual crawl to let somebody overtake me since they make me real nervious if they stick to my bumper while im still learning where i take a apex and at what speeds .
and i can stay behind slower racers then me without rearending them without a problem , because im smart enough to take draft/brake/mistakes etc. in account and still come out of the corner fast enough to overtake the players that are lower then i am .

Quote from [d9] :

if you mean bl1/fbm, with 4s slower time, they consider you to be a different class car

i am in a different class , that part is true . just started to use setup's and still not knowing the track "or any other for that matter" and still not spinning off track every corner or wrecking others i consider myself a above average racer , specially in a server where more then half of the players do laps around 1:20 or worse and can't drive consistent or are unable to keep a race clean because they think they are better drivers , if they are better they choose the place to overtake a slowpoke like me on more obviously better places ( where i will yield and give them the chance to take a corner before i do )
i admit i need to practise these tracks a lot before i can shave off those 4 seconds .
and i registered at the llm site and will hop in soon to check it out , cheers guys

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

"Being a idiot in the eyes of a fool is the delight of gourmets"

i understand that and it made me lol once more , thx

Quote from obsolum :

iRacing isn't an LFS server It's a different sim. And it was meant partly in jest

thanks , that actually made me lol