Quote from Scrabby :

This wednesday he was taken in to hospital becuase of a bad head wound. Later the day he went into a coma and kept him alive through machines.... It didn't help

Oh so it's not like he was sick or anything. Man, that sucks.

Didn't even know he was in a coma. How long for?

R.I.P little man.

Quote from southamptonfc :

For me, it's all worthless if you don't convey the feel. Looks are very much a "nice to have".

That's pretty much what I said, except that I think that LFS totally lacks the feel while you think it gets it right

Quote from southamptonfc :

The reason is because to do the job of correctly simulating driving a car and making the feel of driving as close to real life as possible, it's all about the physics and accuracy of the simulation. Fancy graphics are not needed. Sure, they don't hurt but they aren't the key to a good sim.

See, this is what I was referring to. The argument that it's all about the physics and the graphics and sounds don't matter just doesn't fly. If you want to properly convey the feeling of racing a car, decent graphics and (especially) convincing sounds are as important as the physics aspect. Right now LFS may have proper physics (although I still think there's something very off with the tyres, let's hope the new tyre model fixes that) but it just doesn't offer a very thrilling driving experience IMO, save for a few combo's. Like I said before, a lot of that is no doubt due to the overly smooth track surfaces and the pretty dull FFB.

For example, blasting down the Le Mans straight in a Ford GT40 or a Detomasso Pantera (sp?) or pretty much any other car in the HistorX mod for rFactor is such an exhillirating experience even though it's just a long straight that hardly requires any steering input. Yet it is infinitely more thrilling than driving the BF1 on the twisty city tracks of South City. I'm taking an rFactor mod as example here, but I could make the same comparison with nKp or iRacing; they just feel so much better and exciting to drive than LFS ever did for me.

Quote from majod :

imho, people would like to play racing simulator, not simulation equations...

Heh, that's actually a very nice way to put it Many people on different forums are always going on about how and how accurately the physics are being calculated and simulated and whatnot, but it's all worthless if you don't manage to convey the look and feel of racing a car, which is exactly where LFS fails, no matter how accurate its physics may or may not be.

Quote from southamptonfc :

The problem that LFS is going to have now that progress is so slow, is that it will eventually be overtaken by rivals and potential customers will go elsewhere.

Quote from danowat :

In many peoples eyes, this has already happened, alot of LFS'ers have already moved to different sims.

LFS has long since been surpassed by all 3 of the main competitors IMO, those being iRacing, nKp and rFactor. In the case of rFactor it's obviously not the standard content but quality mods with proper physics. One can only assume that the release of rFactor 2 will only increase the gap with LFS.

Mind you, that doesn't mean that those 3 aren't seriously lacking in some aspects where LFS does it better or even excels, but as far as the actual driving aspect is concerned LFS is lagging behind IMO.

Quote from Dajmin :

The thing is, all it'd take to draw people back in is a graphical overhaul. And we already know that's in the (admittedly pretty long) pipeline.

I really don't think so. While LFS' graphics are hardly its strongpoint they are not that horrible, either. For me, after having raced all of the 3 previously mentioned race sims, it's the "feel" of LFS that puts me off it each and every time I decide to give it another try. It just doesn't feel anything like driving a real car IMO. I can't put my finger on it and I don't know how else to describe it, but there's just something way off about the whole way the cars feel and behave. I have no doubt that a lot of this has to do with LFS' infinite setup options resulting in ridiculous setups. That's another thing where the other 3 race sims are better than LFS; they only allow (more) realistic setup options and as a result the cars will feel more like you would expect a car to feel. Then of course there's the lack of FFB you get in LFS, combined with the supersmooth track surfaces giving you a pretty dull drive.

Quote from Dajmin :

In games like Forza 3, GT5P or Dirt 2 my lap times aren't quick but I can keep the cars on the road and moving pretty fast. But there's rarely a time when I feel the car is in danger of flying across the road out of my control.

You can't honestly compare LFS to Forza, GT or Dirt Of course LFS is the better "sim" out of those, but that's not saying much. In my opinion the only sims you can compare it to are iRacing, nKp and rFactor, everything else is usually one or more steps down the "sim" ladder.

Crap, then I'm too late Couldn't join earlier, I just now put the baby to bed.

EDIT: turns out my computer clock was an hour ahead

Last edited by obsolum, Wed, 26 May 2010 20:03.

Hmm I was just about to search for this thread to ask if people still race on this server, as I was on yesterday evening but it was just me and another guy

What time does tonight's event start then? Maybe I'll join. I've hardly raced LFS in the past year or so but I'm sure there's some people of my skill level I can race with

Quote from zeugnimod :

Kindergarten.

Fixed

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

China and America will come between them.

China and the US would be on opposite sides in the conflict, though, with China backing North Korea (or did I read that wrong)?

Eh, all this bickering between the Korea's. Nothing too serious (ie. war) will come of this, I reckon. It's all big talk and some crap flinging, it will die down eventually. As for the US, they should make sure they clean up the mess they've made elsewhere before getting involved in yet another military conflict (should it escalate to that).

Ah, Soldat was an absolute blast on a LAN with a bunch of players! Is that still around, btw?

*goes to search*

The bent ring is supposed to be like that if I'm not mistaken. It's like that on motorcycle clutches, too, I think.

Awesome, I thought it would never end. I only ever watched a few episodes of it (from random seasons) but by god did I get tired of everyone yapping about it

Quote from adamlfs :

lol true, I guess R34GTR was silly for deleting an email like that haha. Least I don't see the point in deleting emails, it's free space for god sake

Exactly.

Anyhow, if you haven't got a working code yet, R34GTR, PM me. I won't be using mine so you're free to use that.

EDIT: I just read the disclaimer on the bottom of the email which says:

Quote :

Offer valid only for inactive customer accounts. Not transferable.(...)

Would the "not transferable" bit mean the codes are bound to the accounts the email was sent to? I.e you can't just swap codes?

EDIT 2: hey, 2000th post :bannana_g

Last edited by obsolum, Mon, 24 May 2010 09:51.

Quote from TAYLOR-MANIA :

Oh right yeah, you're probably right. You can try this one then R34GTR, it's apparently for new users, I found it on SimHQ - PR-MAY2010. Obviously, use it before June

If it's for new users he won't be able to use it to resub, will he? :doh:

Those shots of the single seaters floating in the sky would make for excellent promo pictures on the website License sales would soar! Uber realistic physics and all that... :rolleyes:

Another one of Rock's legends passes away. Very sad, indeed. That's one of the things that suck about getting older; all the people you look up to will pass away sooner or later.

R.I.P and keep on rockin'.

Wrong section of the forum

Depends on which car you drift with. Which one are you using in the game?

Gotta agree with the Youtube layout, I don't like it either. About this sidebar... I don't know, it can definitely be of use for a lot of people but they should have just kept it the way it was before with the ">>" button you could click to bring up the sidebar.

All in all I'm not fussed about it but I can understand it's causing a lot of grief.

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Quote from Niels Heusinkveld :

Oh no! Another perfectly usable car made worse and less usable!

Lol, exactly what I've been thinking all along

Quote from G!NhO :

BMW is the way to go.

No, it's not.

Quote from menantoll :

For you to argue that IHR is not the cleanest server is just as silly as me arguing that it is (which I'm not).

Not really. The probability of it not being the cleanest server is much much higher than the probability of it being, too, the cleanest server

There's no need to get offended or go in defensive mode when people point out that IHR isn't the cleanest server; it simply isn't I know JVIONE didn't really mean anything by it but you had to expect reactions when you make bold statements like that

In the end, the "cleanliness" discussion is rather pointless IMO. There simply isn't one cleanest server. There are clean servers, less clean servers and awfully dirty servers. I don't know where IHR fits in as I haven't raced there recently (or pretty much any other server for that matter).

Masterplan - Crimson Rider

Thank you, Mille, for sparing me the trouble of writing that I was all ready to hit the Post Reply button when I read JVIONE's statement but I'm glad you beat me to it