Quote from nisskid :

haha dw, they didnt upset me. cheers for the nice comments.

Quote from squidhead :

Which as I pointed out is not impressive enough


Physics or Skill?
Watch the beginning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8AtbP5UCks

that is effectively an entry, he is using the momentum to do that drift, not power, massive difference. when i say physics, i mean the act of using the rear wheels to continue a drift, this is impossible as the rear wheels spin forwards which projects the car forward, we play on the border of that when we power through a corner, but theres a limit where we can sustain a slide as the wheels are not simply pushing us in the direction to where we wanna go.

now as i said, what he is doing is an entry, the corner kinks around, he uses the forwards momentum to hold the car at a 90 degree angle, exactly what i did. now im not gonna deny it was a longer slide, but the key to my entry isnt the length or even the angle really, its the precision. If u watched that vid i posted up of Meihan drift practise ull see that it is a technique to push up against as close to the wall as possible. this shows control and precision. doing a 90 degree entry isnt anything special, holding it just touching a wall on the other hand is.

i dont think i need to go into it much more, but theres 2 main ways of maintaining a drift, one is using momentum, and the other is using power to pull u through the corner, as i said, what he did was merely using the momentum, same as me, just because his has a kink at the start of his entry doesnt mean anything.

lol i do it all the time, when theres a transition which means i have to downshift heaps, but i press it too many times, the amount of times i did it during that 90 degree drift was rediculous. but i dont think that was the case then in that pic, but not 100%

sound file for that engine:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/me ... mp;file=XRT_inertiaMS.eng

Meihan Layout:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/me ... r&file=AU1_Meihan.lyt

Quote from BigTime :

I didn't really hate the music but it did get annoying after a few seconds... Main thing is, don't let comments like his upset you because all it does is make you look bad when you respond like that... Nice drift!

haha dw, they didnt upset me. cheers for the nice comments.

eh, u got me, i must have been too lazy to use the proper replay, i took those screenshots about 2 months ago when i first made the track, i forgot i must have done that. i could probs find the replay of it, but it was nothing special, just me riding the wall a few times, actually a few times i got a lot closer than in that picture.

Quote from squidhead :

meh, nothing special, just a 90 entry, it's not a "full 90" through the corner which could impress...
plus I had to turn off the sound right after I heard the music

pretty sure i said 90 degree entry, drifting that angle around a corner is impossible with a regular car, physics dont allow it. watch meihan drift practise with people such as kuroi who are doing similar entries with the modified knuckles which allow a lot more lock, its a certain style, u either like it or not. because im such a good person, here's a link to a vid of Meihan praccy, watch out for Kuroi in the OneVia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w4bqfGdFLg

Last edited by nisskid, Mon 28 Jan 2008, 09:38.

Quote from WackoZacco :

very nice drifting, looks like most of the real entries on that track, do you mind posting the layout?

yeh, ill do that at the same time as the sound, track isnt finished anywhere near like my other tracks, but its got the general gist of Meihan which was modeled as close as i could get off footage of the track, mostly incar stuff.

haha yeh, its really a love hate thing, i understand if people dont like it, i dont like using music which is of more of a select taste, but its not a professional vid, i was just having a bit of fun, filling some time in while i nurse my factured foot.

Quote from Zachary Zoomy :

reverse?

come again?

Quote from epp_b :

Honestly, what is this obsession with adding ~$#@y music to everything?

to keep fags like urself from watching them.

usually i dont add music to them, then i got bored, was gonna add something dramatic for shits n giggles, then decided nah **** it ill chuck in some norma jean. dont like it, u know where the mute button is.

Quote from LeifOlav :

Hehe, can I have it?

mm, im on my other comp at the moment, this one doesnt have lfs on it as its too slow, remind me later as i dont have access to the other one with all my LFS shit on it at the moment

Last edited by nisskid, Mon 28 Jan 2008, 00:22.

90 degree drift:
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3061/drift1am1.jpg

Bowl Drift:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2871/drift2es2.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1430/drift3bc9.jpg

its a custom one i made, reminds me of a JZ engine with a big turbo for some reason

A quick vid of me entering corner 1 on a layout i made based on Meihan Sportsland, a track famous for it's insane entries in Japan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjz6aBkTWGE

any chance i could get unbanned from the server? DaveyBoi went on a bit of a power trip and chucked a tanti after he lost an argument and banned me without warning. If anyone wants full details let me know, its seriously as simple as him getting frustrated over me showing him evidence that killed his argument and banning me, i didnt insult him or do anything to warrant a ban.

Cheers

haha oh, well yeh, basically, if u head straight on from the last corner ull end up in the pits, u need to veer to the right onto the main straight.

Quote from PLAYAPIMP :

i guess ill try it from what he said it sounds good
btw how do you run it i cant figure it out

oh sorry i must have missed this before, basically u just chuck the file in the layouts folder in data, then load it up in the autocross track using SHIFT+U when ur in the track.

i just updated the track then, pretty much just a modified corner 1, this one means u can go in faster and deeper and really get up against the bowl wall, also its just had a few cone position changes as well as corner 4 (the big one with the bales) has had the edge trimmed and replaced with cones, this gives a bit of room up the inside for overtakes.

haha yeh, im a big fan of this track, im not sure which i like more, this one (D15) or D14. i think this one is good because its shorter and has some nice tech sections as well as some more high speed corners.

Right now ive only made a drift variation of this layout, i may add on later.

http://www.yourfilehost.com/me ... &file=1841AU1_D15.lyt

Last edited by nisskid, Sun 16 Dec 2007, 12:31.

haha cheers mate, yeh wouldnt mind trying to see what kind of times i can get on them, but im not a great gripper, i mostly drift so the layout was formed off me drifitng around it (the D14 track) and then i made the grip variations, for me i find it very flowing, wouldnt mind seeing some people do the layout quickly and see if they (R14/L14/M14/S14) are good for grip.

oh and btw, this is the track in its early stage, its developed a lot since here, but the general layout is similar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV45mUCrjeg

Hey, this track ive been working on for a while, it includes a Drift, Long, Medium, Short and Race layout.

D14 - Drift Layout: http://www.yourfilehost.com/me ... ther&file=AU1_D14.lyt
L14 - Long Layout: http://www.yourfilehost.com/me ... ther&file=AU1_L14.lyt
M14 - Medium Layout: http://www.yourfilehost.com/me ... ther&file=AU1_M14.lyt
S14 - Short Layout: http://www.yourfilehost.com/me ... ther&file=AU1_S14.lyt
R14 - Race Layout: http://www.yourfilehost.com/me ... ther&file=AU1_R14.lyt

D14 Layout:


enjoy.

Last edited by nisskid, Fri 14 Dec 2007, 19:00.