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Neilser
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Quote from Jakg :My Mum had it before me, though, and she could well of done something stupid and just plain not realised (only driver out there that actually scares me when i'm with her

Ah... it's plausible I guess. (One careful lady driver! )

Did you see any damage down there when you were poking about?
You changed the camber on the faulty rear wheel by 3 degrees - that's more than 1 part in 20, so there might just be visible bending somewhere.

For example, if the supports that set the camber (cough, me not suspension expert, not sure of names ) are 20cm apart at the hub, that error is equivalent to one of them having its length out by a whole centimetre. Not pretty. Or its anchor point has been bent (inwards?) by a centimetre... Sounds bloody awful when you put it that way, eh? (Am I talking bollox btw?)
Neilser
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Quote from AndRand :If I liked the combo... sure I would :eclipsee_ - it takes just a few laps.

But how would you know you liked the combo if you'd never tried it?
Neilser
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Quote from Jakg :After several hours messing about in the cold it's almost fixed - bodged to hell but everything is a lot lot better than it was before.

Fingers crossed it's all good now

Still can't believe the garages missed it - sounds like it was so bad it was borderline visible to the naked eye.
I'm wondering if suspension problems that severe would be an MOT failure?

By the way, how in hell did it get that bad? A knock?
Neilser
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Quote from pearcy_2k7 :Ive only seen it done like this, duno what your supposed to rest it on, guy i saw doing it rested it on the splitter.

OMG, that car has some serious toe-out at the front!

No, wait...
Neilser
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Quote from Jakg :3 garages i've taken it to (picked up some tyres today) have said they don't have the equipment to do camber, which is odd as I just spend £60 on a Sealey tool thing that is designed to do just that...

Yeah, quite bizarre.
Quote from Jakg :
String says toe is ****ed so need to play with that today, too. Just amazed none of these garages noticed it was ****ed and tried to charge me to fix it rather than saying "its fine guv".

Oh, didn't spot you had mentioned toe earlier.
I must be confused, cos I thought toe was what they check when they do a "tracking" check.

And how do you check toe with a bit of string?
Neilser
S3 licensed
Quote from thisnameistaken :Mike, have you tried going to the toilet between races?



But seriously, what is the point of mandatory pit stops?
He's right - they really do screw up any close racing that's going on, and who gets a kick out of leaving the pits in front of the guy that was ahead of them on the way in?
And when you pit on different laps (more often than not in my experience), all you're racing against is the clock for a while
Neilser
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Quote from tristancliffe :Fancy lasers are prone to error.

Yes, most commonly when the person operating them is a total plank.

Reminds of the phrase "computer error"... Ha!

PS: Jakg - you should ask for your money back from the planks in question!
PPS: Aha, just checked the post where you mentioned the lasers, and you actually mentioned then that they couldn't check the camber (wow!), just the tracking... So, just a crippled test station, rather than operator error as such.
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Neilser
S3 licensed
Quote from Ger Roady :But due to the surge effect, a sensor would make no sense in a race car.

But it doesn't have to be a fuel level sensor It can just do (like F1 cars) some arithmetic on how much fuel has been injected compared to how much was in the tank

(Edit - in fact, maybe that's how the current fuel gauges work in all the LFS race cars )
Neilser
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Quote from Ger Roady :And you want that in nearly every race you drive ?

Or do you race always with full tank ?:turtle2:

A wee flashing light when you get low would not be so distracting
The game has a pretty good idea of when you've got less than two laps of fuel left...
Neilser
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Quote from pingy72 :Are you telling me that other non open wheeler may not have fuel indicators? I thought the lack of addition on open wheelers is just to simulate real life cars even though it's odd that there's none to begin with.

Well, I've never seen a fuel warning light (though all cars do have a fuel gauge of some kind, and there's always F12 too). And I just checked - the XFG ran out of fuel on me just now without ever giving me any kind of warning...
Neilser
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Yes, it has struck me before that some sort of fuel warning would be rather bloody useful. We've all seen plenty of racers dribble to a halt and admit they've run out. Hell, most of us have even done it.

Dunno about race cars, but how many real cars have no fuel warning light?
(And surely it's not that crazy to have one even on an open wheeler??)

(I bet this is on the Improvements list?)
Neilser
S3 licensed
+1
Neilser
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Hehe.
On your first point, I meant an entirely separate server, which simply fetches PB data from LFSW using the normal identkey system.
Second point: not certain I'd be able to program it either, mmm.
But your fourth point is the real killer
Neilser
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Quote from AndRand :PB notification comes from LFSW as I reckon

What I was thinking was that if Scavier are busy, then you might still have a shot at making this happen if third parties (i.e. ordinary users like you and me ) can do it. Of course, Victor might be on board with having a go, which would be massively better.
Neilser
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Just a thought (and I admit up front I've not carefully thought this through) but maybe it's poss to implement this with no changes to LFS, i.e. entirely using queries to LFSW and some sort of notification mechanism (with an opt-in of some kind)?
Am I losing my mind or does LFS (like many online games) have a way to send a message to a racer whichever server they are on?
Neilser
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Quote from Zay :Lol dude.
[snip...] because the engine would make a 'pop' noise and there (very likely)will be black smoke.

Oh that's just priceless!
Methinks you've never actually done this. The lols are on you as dan just pointed out. (But thanks for giving us a giggle!)

And isn't this the beginners forum? Where new people with no experience of LFS (or maybe any racing sim) should be able to ask questions without getting told they're stupid?
Neilser
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I have mixed feelings.

People don't just use restricted servers cos they want longer e-willies.
They also use 'em (speaking for myself at least) in the hope that they won't be full of inexperienced drivers or crashers.
It's handy to be able to type "!rt" or "!rk" after an incident to see if the person who tangled with you makes a habit of leaving the road, or indeed scoring decent points.

On the other hand, I also don't have unlimited time to amass points, and when there are several different servers with unshared points tallies, well life is just too short. I am really enjoying racing on IHR but am like many people still way short of the points required for a GTR, and this'll still be the case a month or two from now I'm sure.

(Aside: it is truly amazing the way the LFS population seem to move en-masse from one server to another, eh?)

I think turning off the points requirements might work in some cases, but not on a multi-class server. It's bad enough already on IHR when novice TBO drivers wreck races for STD drivers, and they can only use the TBO cars if their points AND safety ratings are adequate...

So EQ Worry - am really looking forward to you coming up with a tweak to have a shared points system

[Just checked LFSW for fun. 328 licensed drivers right now, and almost 100 of them are on the top 5 non-cruise servers, with 39 of them on IHR... Pretty high fraction of all racers in one place.]
Neilser
S3 licensed
Not such a bad idea, but could be horribly difficult to make it work in practice I think, partly because there are just so many combos. Someone who is pretty decent at SO1 in (say) an FXO is probably going to be pretty decent at SO1R or SO2, but may not have ever set a time in that combo...

But maybe there's some way to keep the spirit of the idea and make it work somehow. People who are reasonably experienced with LFS tend to have favourite cars and tracks of course, but mostly they can also learn new ones reasonably quickly, and generally quicker for a new track I guess than a new car. So maybe what you want is some kind of figure of merit for how good someone is in a given car (average percentage of WR for their three best PBs in that car?). Then you can let a race proposer suggest a car and a track and people who are in the same "speediness" bracket as them would get notified?

Then again.... it can be nice to race against people who are quite a lot quicker than you, as you can learn from them (Agreed - it won't be close racing, and that's a lot of fun all by itself.)
Neilser
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Wow, this is a good one. You can of course kill an engine in LFS but they die slowly

So my money's on the empty fuel tank

[Edit: unless you hit the "i" key by accident...]
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Neilser
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Quote from Shadowww :Uhm I actually told him how to tweak LFS without having license.

Had never heard of CheatEngine before.... Looks like an interesting bit of software
Neilser
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Nice, thanks. Got the lib, will have a go
Neilser
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Ah... And I was just thinking that the brakes might actually be the reason why the gap was so small! (The front brakes being so much meatier than the rears...)
Neilser
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Quote from AndRand :So I understand that unless power drops significantly before redline I should change gears just at redline because torque at next gear will always be lower?

Well, almost, but not really

Firstly you need to know how much the power drops beyond the peak...
Secondly it depends on how much the gears are separated. E.g. between first and second gear, it's very likely you'll need to redline it. Between 5th and 6th though, much less likely...
Neilser
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Many thanks for the feedback Moose.

Will have to find another option than Virgin, though I do like their packages, cos we have no cable in our street. (Mucho frustrating, and the houses were only built 10-15 years ago, so it's bizarre.)
A whole family watching iPlayer, Youtube etc. etc. also pushes our usage up a bit, so I'll need a peak-time allowance of at least 20 or 30 GB I reckon

Such a shame about Plusnet... they used to be so great. But I agree that the traffic management does seem over-zealous.
I had assumed that more or less every ISP was doing it now but having done a wee bit of research now (and judging from your experience) I seem to be quite wrong about that...

(PS: I think you should count yourself very lucky you've not needed to talk to the Virgin support guys - that is, if I'm remembering correctly that it's the ex-NTL crew. NTL were spectacularly awful in most cases - I have some friends who had issues with NTL and the tech support was sometimes so bad it was hard to believe it wasn't malicious But when it's working, it's a great service and also great value.)
Neilser
S3 licensed
Aha - cool, thanks. Hadn't spotted that!

Update: just had a peek at the BF1 bin file. If I parsed it right, the rears have unsprung mass of 21.06 (kilograms I guess?) and the fronts have 19.67. Much more similar than I'd have guessed!
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