Quote from DeadWolfBones :

...exceed the one-hour maximum driving time, even when accounting for the time added to the race by the SC period.

Mmm, did you mean to suggest that the SC period would have made a difference to the one hour limit?
That's not how I read rule A/6.1, but if the SC period "doesn't count" toward the one hour limit that certainly makes a difference to strategy so cd you clarify pls?
(We decided against an early driver change partly on the basis that another SC period might occur...)

Quote from PMD9409 :

I'll post it if you wish. The alternative pit road had to be "slowed down" due to it being much faster than the normal route. So serving a DT in a league race wouldn't actually lose you time, if anything you would gain time.

Well yeah, it's stupendously quicker to take the pit lane, by the looks of UM21's pic, but you'd miss the checkpoints, so wouldn't that cost you an entire lap? Or umm, maybe I'm missing sumfink...

Cool, ta. So, one end of that pit looks a little safer than the other
Might be fun to give it a try...

Interesting... Anything that kills that horrible last chicane is worthy of a try
But I'm not sure what the pit entry/exit would be - maybe you could overlay in red or something?

Sadly tomorrow evening looks like a bust for me, so I'll opt out now to give someone else a spot...

What I learned today? Very hard to pass GT300 in GT500 at FE3 :-S
Much easier when they pull right just after start of sector 2, but if they don't, I couldn't figure a way to do it cleanly until end of the long straight.

Apologies to any and all I bumped while failing to pass cleanly :/

Quote from andRo. :

I haven't seen anybody ever report such thing in any league unless the safety car is out

I reckon I have, but not going to trawl ancient forum posts to see if I'm right

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If that was the rule, I would have to look through the whole race to find each one of the drivers who passed under yellow flag to be fair, which I am not going to do.

Not at all; admins need only deal with actual protests. If somone can't be bothered to protest an "illegal" pass, no worries. You can deal with other stuff if you so wish of course (I think in this case you're correct, btw, as the intent to nick a place wasn't there.)

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I'll change the sentence in the rules to not make further confusion.

Agreed about rule update being necessary, IF it's actually the desired outcome. IMO allowing passing under yellow is not a great idea at all.

Quote from ACCAkut :

nice idea, will join I think. Being 4 seconds of the pole (and last in pre-Quali ...) I wonder if participating in this whole champonship makes any sense at all.

Well, look on it all as a good chance to improve then... With a bit more practice you never know.

Yeah I'll be trying
And np about remote/stream - I would help if I could though.

Hey all.

A last-minute idea occurred to me: given that there will be a few among us who won't be racing tonight after qually (tbh I'm expecting to be one of them ), and since remote isn't looking likely to work, a way to forget the pain and put all that practice to good use might be to have some fun races among ourselves...

I've set up one of the SR servers for this. Sadly I can't rename it to something appropriate but here's a link to it: lfs://join=[SR]%20MOE
Currently set for 6 laps. (Hmm, OK, that link isn't working so well, /me fails. But name is "[SR] MOE". If you can't find it, you don't deserve to race on it :razz

[Andro - if you feel this isn't appropriate for this thread, lemme know and I'll remove it]

Ahhhh.
I'm such a noob I didn't know there was a time before limiters

Hmm, hard to see how I could have missed it in a long line of blue and white names, but OK. Fini.

Quote from andRo. :

Nope, it updates names when you change it. That's why it's always good to check it before you leave the server.

Hang on, I just realised that I *did* check before I left the server.
That after all was why I connected in the first place - to check my position. I connected, did a "!sb std" and left. If it had shown me the wrong nick, I would immediately have fixed it.

Please understand that I'm not asking for special treatment here. If I can't race, fine. (Despite having followed the rules to the letter, but meh.)

But do be aware that the mechanism for updating the name is different from how you think it is. I must now assume that it changes it after you *leave* the server? In which case, doing precisely what I did is exactly how to cock it up...

Oh crap :/
I connected briefly to the server from a different PC late last night to check my position - had a different nick set at the time. Am now at work and not likely to be able to reconnect before 18:00.
I thought Airio only updated the nick if you set a new lap (or maybe even a better lap) though?

meh
(Edit: I wanna find out if it's possible to pass on this lunatic track...)

Test race = good idea... Going ahead?

Fair enough, but it's not the underlying LFS model I'm puzzled about, it's the data Bob provides.
I should really hope that Bob will leap in here, cos it's his method I'm querying: how did he end up with data beyond the redline if it comes from the measured performance of the car? And if the data from beyond the redline isn't from actual measurements but rather extrapolation, why is the data all ripply beyond the redline?
(The ripply-ness is why I'm saying it isn't extrapolated... Unless some ripply-ness was added to make it match the appearance of the data below the redline? Nah that's too nuts!:schwitz

Hmm, I felt certain they couldn't be polynomial-generated curves cos they have lots of fine-scale wiggles, so you'd need a ridiculously high-order polynomial which would explode as soon as you tried to extrapolate with it... No?

Nice one, ta. Will have a peek.
(Btw do you have any clue about the way-past-redline torque/power data? :shrug

Quote from andRo. :

Yes, I understand what you are talking about, but there are many reasons why I don't want to make 2 racing servers at the same time and reasons why it would be totally useless after round 1. It wouldn't work, trust me. It's been proved in many previous leagues, it will be great if even one server will be full after round 1 etc..

Anyway, don't worry, if you will participate in the league throughout the whole season, I'm 100% sure you'll get to race if that's what worries you.

Yeah no worries, I appreciate it's a lot of extra hassle. Actually though I was kinda hoping I'd qualify even in race 1
It was the *slow* people I was concerned about
But maybe I should be worried?! :hide:

Wow, useful curves there Bob. Dunno how I missed them in the past
(And I thought I'd looked very hard...)

Are the (S2) curves still up to date, does anyone know? If not, I might have a go at redoing 'em...

And one question which I don't see the answer to in the thread - how did you get the curves to go past redline revs? They don't look extrapolated...

Quote from andRo. :

Well, it's already decided that there will be 2 servers, but only for the qualifications. Everyone will be PM'd in which server they must do their qualification when time comes.

Yup, noticed that last night (after being stunned at how many had already signed up even then), but that would still now leave more than half the keen racers driving home from the track after qually, totally devastated at having missed the cut, sob
If it goes the way some leagues go, you'd only need to do it for the first race mind you

Depending on how many of us actually turn up, it's getting to look as though it might be worth having two race servers?

Full name: Neil Conway
LFSWorld username: neilser
Full team name: Sonicrealms Racing
Country: Ireland
Preferred number: 32
Car: XFG

(Yeah, XFG is slower, but XRG is a bad choice for losers like me who are dead slow in it! :razz