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FRAUD 20b DRAGSTER
M3THANOL
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I have been wanting to make a mod with a 20b rotary engine, because ROTARY & SOUND & ROB DAHM!

I took my Fraud ES2000 and totally reworked the rear suspension with a proper drag racing setup (trailing arm/ 4 link) as well as fat rear slicks and skinnies up front. There are also a number of visual changes including a proper Pro-mod style rear wing, fat fender exit exhaust, bonnet scoop/ duct feeding a BIG turbo and front end changes for the large intercooler.

The gearbox is a 5 speed sequential, no traction control and a narrow but INSANE powerband just like a proper drag car.

Here is the link to my original mod: https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/54D0E5

This is a handful when it comes into boost!
M3THANOL
S3 licensed
Would help if I added options for the poll.......clever me XD

Fixed
T-BUCKET NA
M3THANOL
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Growing up I would often see one of these weird yet wonderful creations driving around in my neighbourhood, its called a T-Bucket.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-bucket

As quoted from wikidepia, a T-Bucket is described as "A T-bucket (or Bucket T) is a hot rod, based on a Ford Model T of the 1915 to 1927 era, but extensively modified."

One of the earliest types of hot rod and still popular today, they couple light weigh, rear wheel drive and powerful V8 engines. This will make for a lot of fun for either cruises or street/ drag racing.

I got the basic model from Sketchfab, looking for something low-poly that I could use as a basic starting point. I then started reworking the body extensively as well as adding various own modelled parts and those taken from existing LFS cars.

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/20s-car-a37541cfa3764aca8d1b94131b8ca1aa


I am keen to see what interest there is for this one so I have added a poll.
M3THANOL
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Quote from AEF :Very nice! But...
1) Windshield must be transparent in my opinion!
2) If you want to race against the BERG CUP, you probably will need to increase the width of the tires by one measure (or decrease those of the BERG)

1- Noted, I will sort that out for the update I am busy with, its still a learning process for me and now I know how to do this.

2- I hear you, however, that is not the goal for this car, I want it to be as true to its real racing class as possible and there are limits on the tyres, berg cup is a bit more open as far as I understand.
M3THANOL
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Quote from Tomfuel :this project is cool !! can't wait to race with it !

Thanks man, have fun!
M3THANOL
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Quote from NENE87 :@Chunkiegg that's why "vehicle Mods - Work in Progress" topic's exist Wink maybe release MK2?

Yeah I hope he does!
M3THANOL
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Quote from Mr. Apex :FRAUD hahaha Big grin

Wow this looks awesome!
Gonna try it tonight.

Hey is there a chance for a LHD version? Thumbs up?

Na-na

Hope you have been enjoying it

Currently no, but lets see for future updates. For now, it gives you a good challenge and should be something you'll get used to after a few laps
M3THANOL
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Quote from juni0ri :Little wish for hybrid tyres.

Your wish has been granted
M3THANOL
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can't wait for this! I am a VW nut but I have always had a special place in my heart for fast Fords! Now my Mk1 Escort will have a family member Smile
M3THANOL
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Quote from Scawen :Well... seeing as you are interested... it might be helpful for people to understand the thinking behind the patch, some info about how things actually go in the real world as opposed to some imagined perfect world where I can continue coding full time without any issue. And what the plans are as I see them.

Since version B was released, first I did some finishing work that week and put a little time into a special version that can really help with events such as the football (Soccar) event. As the ball can run on the host, it works so much better. It's a special server version that could be used for some special cases in future. Something I really wanted to do, even since before the first public version of mods. It's an interesting concept. The reason I even *do* this job, is so that I can follow interesting concepts and get them done!

Then I got Covid, and it was the kids half term. So not much done that week.

As you know, we have a public review system now, and it has been fairly common for people to submit mods from other games, usually by mistake (e.g. they got it from a supposedly legitimate website but the person who uploaded it there didn't actually make it). We can't host such mods, so it's important to have the wireframe view that helps people to examine the model and see if it has come from an illegitimate source.

I don't like the fact that there was a crash in the version. Even if rare... there's one reason that LFS doesn't crash much. It's not because it's 'old' or 'can run on a toaster' etc. It's because I always try to fix every crash, and respond when community members report one.

A couple of other bugs and issues were spotted in the football event so I did a quick fix for them. The shadow bug and the wall riding. Good to fix them. Then when fixed, why hold them back? You guys can have the fix too!

One important thing, for people with worse internet connections, is the ability to download mods while joining a host, instead of after you have joined. It was on my sheet for months, long before the first public test patch of the mods system was ever released. I actually did that in a day yesterday. It has been a little hard to get right back to work after Covid.

Although my Covid was classed as 'mild' I can tell you that for me it was a lot worse than a normal cold. I had some rough nights, weird aching muscles and all sorts of symptoms, separately and sequentially. For info I'm 50 years old and semi-fit meaning I run and ride bikes a bit and walk a few km nearly every day if I don't run or ride. I eat a healthy diet, do not smoke (for 10 years) and rarely drink (and if I do, it's one glass). I actually thought Covid would hit me less hard. As I work from home, I was not vaccinated. I got the Covid from Leo who brought it back from school. I'm not asking for sympathy, it was my choice. I have my reasons.

So the download mods thing was a real good day of work yesterday. I had been somewhat distracted by the war and programming seemed very confusing. It's hard to explain to a non-programmer, quite how hard programming can be and how organised you have to be and have a good short term memory and sometimes keep notes as you go. Even in this case, when I wasn't really doing something entirely new and inspirational, there's data collection, packet sending, list processing, and it's quite simply a lot more involved than you might imagine!

I want to call a stop to working on mods, as you know, with a solid version out there. So that's what this test patch is all about. A simple update that allows me to get on with the tyre physics. There are a lot more things I could do with mods but I want to stop, because when we get the new physics and graphics out, it'll be easier to work on things as I won't have to merge two separate versions.

Hi Scawen

I don't think you are the other guys hear this enough, THANKS! Thank you for what you have produced over the years, a sim that is truly awesome and doesn't require the latest and greatest gaming rig to enjoy. I think far too few people take time to simply appreciate what a team of 3 has actually achieved over the last 2 decades. We as consumers quickly get caught up in consuming and take little time to reflect on what we consume and the work that goes into it. So once again, thank you, keep up the good work and all the best with your post Covid recovery, we are thankful that you have survived it and I am sure you family is too!
M3THANOL
S3 licensed
This is gonna be good Smile
M3THANOL
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Quote from AEF :I suggest to reduce the darkness of the windshield more. Probably even bringing it to zero.

I will make a plan to do so with the next update, still learning some things and how to best do this was unknown to me until recently Smile

I am also starting to do some stitching of the body, the 3D model was quite an old one and turned out to have many triangles that were not actually connected, so I have to work through that which is VERY laborious
M3THANOL
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Quote from FIZ :Thank you for the update!

Pleasure!
Stupidvan 1
M3THANOL
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For the real petrol head's that enjoy the sometimes crazy past of motorsport and the automotive world, may I present a homage to the bonkers Ford Supervan 1. A 1st Generation Ford Transit that was essentially a Ford Transit body dropped onto a Ford GT40 chassis! A 5L V8 producing a claimed 435hp, 5 speed gearbox with fully independent suspension front and rear.

The model isn't an exact replica as I couldn't find one of the Ford Transit Mk1 but I found something that looks pretty close to it. The chassis is a modified F08 chassis, and set up to make this a lot of fun. It is a van, so its still quite top heavy so avoid aggressive kerbs or you might end up rolling XD, I have tried my best to limit this and the handling is quite good for what it is and should prove a good match for cars in the 300-350hp/ton power-to-weight class.

Here are some videos and pics of the original Supervan 1, which has gone into hiding somewhere unknown to the public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKooLfhyEak

Followed by some screenshots of the model as it currently stands

Let me know what you think
M3THANOL
S3 licensed
Quote from bayanofmansorofisky :Its gonna be built around the 6G7 engine with a little modifications to add power and torque. Not gonna be a slow one for sure Smile

Awesome!
M3THANOL
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I have been waiting for one of these!!! Please tell me its gonna be a bonkers twin turbo BEAST!
M3THANOL
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Great work man, very very neat!!! One concern though, the steering seems to be a bit too sensitive, meaning that you have too many turns lock to lock. I am amazed at the levels of grip and would be interested to know if this is the same in real life? Keep up the good work Smile
M3THANOL
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Pretty happy with how the Fraud is looking and the suspension setup seems to now be in a pretty good state. I think its time to make it public and let the LFS family have fun with it.

As usual, your feedback is appreciated! The default setup will be for Westhill International, so keep in mind that you will have to work on it for other tracks, especially those with slower tighter corners
M3THANOL
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very nice idea, keen to see how this develops, condolences to you and your friends family Frown
M3THANOL
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Quote from starlet_man :Hello! Can we get Hybrid tyres for the car? Really wanting to use it in rally.
Thanks

Yes sure, even though rally is not the focus for this car and the suspension might not be suitable I will include that for those that want
M3THANOL
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Quote from FIZ :First of all: I love this mod, challenging but rewarding.

Thanks for the custom color update, much needed!
I hope skin template is coming as well Smile


I noticed, when front height is 160, the suspension still works fine but you can see the graphical problems:


Maybe it is possible to limit the height in the setup?


I have read in the description of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VntjByD6pg4 that the car, using the same engine as this mod, has a 6-Speed sequential gearbox, not an H-pattern gearbox. While I love to deal with the H gearbox, I wonder if it is realistic!


The interior looks basic but I am confident could be improved Shy


I noticed the windshield is a bit darker than how it should be, I really prefer it more clear and transparent as it is irl.
Actually I'd love to see a dirty texture on the windshield, because a super transparent windshield is not realistic too Smile

Hey man, thanks for taking the time to give your feedback, I appreciate this kind of post!

I have also noticed this and it is something I need to work on, in real like this would be tyre rub, not good but it wouldn't show through the arch....unless it went on for a while. I will make a plan to eliminate this.

I'm also aware of the sequential gearbox and maybe its time to give it a try, my concern was that it would be too fast, without much competition in its class as its already much faster than the XFR which is sequential but after the FXO Supertouring was released by Jake Blasted it might be time to try even the playing field a bit.

The interior is very basic XD, this is mainly due to the fact that the body has MANY vertices and this limits what else I can include as there is a overall limit for the vertices of the model. I'll see what I can do to improve on this.

I'll see what I can do to fix the windshield, I am still getting to grips with all the options in the editor XD

Thanks
M3THANOL
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Quote from R-to :If you want M3THANOL you can make this car for the SUPERstock Touring 2022 championship. It will be used on GRIP Masters - SsT 24/7 server.

CAR BUILDING RULES:
https://www.gripmasters.fi/superstock-touring-sst

Thanks for the offer, however I will have a think about it
M3THANOL
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Quote from Averro :Would be great to see the shell of this mod as a base for a "regular" VW Golf Mk I (GTI), nice work so far!

Thanks for the idea, I have been thinking of that. Please give it some stars if you think its worthy Smile
M3THANOL
S3 licensed
Very nice buddy! Stock track setup is a bit twitchy though, quite aggressive liftoff oversteer. I worked on it a bit and got it tamed, managed a 2:01 around Westhill International
M3THANOL
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Quote from Chunkiegg :Looking ace M3thanol, you have beaten me to it! I've only done basic blocking out though, yours looks spot on. I might have to move on to the mk5b/6 RS2000 F2 Maxi kit cars Big grin

Are you thinking of doing a version that is faithful to the original Escort Mexicos? These were great rally cars back in the 60's and would be a good laugh on the rallycross stages Smile

I'm sorry man, I was sure there were other fans on LFS XD

No I hadn't planned to, why don't you do something like that, the more the merrier I say Smile
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