Quote from JPeace :

If you want people to take you seriously, prehaps try to explain to them your plans rather than insulting them. To be honest I agree - even if 90% + of community says yes, it will make no difference. Leave the devs alone to do their own work.

I am not insulting anyone, not sure where you are reading that I'm just replying to them the same way they replied to me. And my idea is simple and well explained in my post, if someone doesn't get it they need learn to read.

And I repeat, it was a simple question for the community, im not begging or anything.

P.S: LuKe.S is totally right.

Jesus christ, do you guys have to over react so much? Whatever you post, you're going to be bashed by people calling you a kid or a dumbass. This is the only community that over reacts so much, really. Just state your reasons and nothing more.

@Kid222: Your shit spam is useless.
@thezero: Oh look, the 2009 guy is talking about ME being bored of the game a few minutes after playing. P.S: calling other people kids doesn't make you look older, infact, sometimes the caller is the youngest of all.
@peterules: You don't have to be an ****.

I'm serious guys, look at this shit. It is pathetic and I'm ashamed by this community.

Well I posted this idea in the physics thread and some people liked it.

They (the devs) could make a short public TO-DO list. That would show things that are done and left to be done. It will be useful for people that don't check the forum often and just want to check the status of the development of the next patch, keep us updated and lower the amount of anger because of the leght of the development time of the physics. The list could be put in a sticky thread on top of the forum.

Example to-do list:

- AI driver improvements - Completed
- Limited setup system - Completed
- Finish the VW Scirocco - Completed
- Finish Rockingham - Completed
- Tyre heating and cooling - In progress
- Suspension updates - Not yet started
- VW stability control - Not yet started
- General bug fixes - Not yet started
- Release to private testing - Not yet started
- Public TEST release - Not yet started
- Public official release - Not yet started

THIS LIST IS AN EXAMPLE AND DOES NOT REPRESENT THE DEVELOPMENT ROAD OR STATUS IN ANY WAY.

Quote from Live For Kill :

It will be the same for 2 years, so what's the difference? They already told what they are working on, so why do they need to do it again?

No it won't be the same for two years, why are you so pesimist?

They did told us on what they are working on, be we'd like to be updated on what is done and what is not, and specially for all the people who don't check the forum often and create threads asking for the progress, we can just send them to the list and it won't create anger like "OMFG DEVS DONT SAY ANYTHING RAGE".

Quote from Michalxo :

That's how I'd imagine some dev's blogposts.. Nothing hard... and everyone is satisfied and informed. Why can't it work this way here too? :-(
http://www.truecombatelite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2084

If I'm not mistaken they once said that they can't do these kind of blogs because theres really nothing to report so much, it's just physics.


But they can make a short public TO-DO list. That would show things that are left to be done and we could just send people asking to it. Example:

- AI driver improvements - Completed
- Limited setup system - Completed
- Finish the VW Scirocco - Completed
- Finish Rockingham - Completed
- Tyre heating and cooling - In progress
- Suspension updates - Not yet started
- VW stability control - Not yet started
- General bug fixes - Not yet started
- Release to private testing - Not yet started
- Public TEST release - Not yet started
- Public official release - Not yet started

THIS LIST IS AN EXAMPLE AND DOES NOT REPRESENT THE DEVELOPMENT ROAD OR STATUS IN ANY WAY.

Epic failete

Quote from DevilDare :

First of all, Rockingham is S3 content. So you can forget about that.

Secondly, the physics are not just for Scirocco.

S3 or not, it's delayed because of the physics.

The physics may not be just for the Scirocco, but Scawen said that they can't release it without the new physics done.

Quote from DevilDare :

Who said they would release new physics at same time?

Scawen said there will be a test patch phase soon.

Maybe they will implement the physics later on in testing.

Anyway, wont get my hopes up.

Why do you think the Scirocco and Rockingham are being delayed? Because the VWS NEEDS the new physics.

They said there will be TEST patch before it is released, and according to twitter it's like an official release.

It's fake guys, chill.

Quote from DevilDare :

Can anyone confirm if this twitter account is real? (As in legit. Not just some troll)

http://twitter.com/lfsnetwork

Very real, because the Sciroco totally doesnt need the new physics.

Quote from bunder9999 :

is this account for real?

edit: and why would they post on twitter instead of the forums? they've been online the whole time.

Oh yes it is very real, because the Scirocco totally doesn't need the new physics.

Quote from Forbin :

Those who can't race, drift. Those who can't drift, cruise. Simple as.

Sorry, but your logic is ****ed up.


Nothing more to say.

Thanks for the info Scawen, sounds good!

Do you guys think that we will see the annuncement of the secret S3 car in August/September? Those are the months on which things seem to be annunced in "Scavier time".

Quote from BlackEye :

Scawen has mentioned they will probably change that S1, S2, S3 doesn't refer to development of the game, too.
S3 will come with the new patch or soon after (I guess).
Rockingham and secret new car will be S3 content for the start.

Victor has also said on IRC that S3 purchase will come soon on the website.

Edit:

When did he said that? Recently?

Quote from erfrag :

Here you go kimd41

You're an idiot.


I'm happy to see some people got my point about points, experiences, etc...

Again, my intention wasn't to insult people's servers or piss people. I must say the title of the topic is wrong, it must be something "Points, experiences, safety %, ranks have gone too far" or something so it doesn't sound like I'm bashing the servers, sorry.

I got the replies I was expecting. People protecting their "favourite" server, telling me to gtfo... doesn't suprise me since they're who full those servers.

These multi-class servers are full because most people just look at the server with most people and join it. I bet if right now we filled a single class server and make it enjoyable it would get as popular.

I don't play in the single class servers because they're empty and I don't have the time to waste to wait for someone to join for hours.

My point is NOT that multi-class suck because they're multi class, my point is that the points, safety %, ranks are killing it.

- Safety %: Why? Crashers get banned by admin. I have to drive with the fear of not doing ANY mistake because I will lose safety % and not able to play.
- Points: I'm okay with points as soon it DOESN'T TAKE MONTHS TO ADVANCE TO THE NEXT CLASS!! Some months ago, I played A LOT at IHR to advance to the next class and I didn't even get halfway. I quit racing from there.
- Ranks: Again, I'm okay as soon I don't have to be a total nerd to advance to the next rank so I can use a friggin FXO.


And seriously people, you don't have to go attacking me and judge me by my lap times. I can play good when I want. I spend most of my time on cruise and drift servers because I can drive what I want and I can organize fun races with other people driving my kind of car.

Today's racing servers are SHIT and SUCK. Let's see, I want to enter some racing server to race and have some fun, but noooo I can't because THEY ALL ****ING NEED RANKS, EXPERIENCES, SAFETY % AND POINTS!! :banghead:

What the **** has happened, what happened to the times when we actually raced for fun with any cars? Now, we have to be TOTALLY NERDS and race 24/7 to gain rank, experience, safety % AND points. WTF is this shit?

Why there isn't ANY decent server with people in it, that allows the use of many cars without the need of ranks and experiences?

Imagine a server with a decent amount of people and admins, where we race with different or same kind of cars without any ranks or restrictions and after 3 races or so we change track or type of cars, so every 3 races there would be a different combination of cars and tracks.

IHR sucked because of that, S2 cargame.nl sucks because of that, and all the servers that use this kind of system SUCK and I refuse to play on them. And I'm pretty sure it also kills it for a lot of people.

Quote from Amynue :

In my vision of the perfect world there was test patch released somewhere in July. Let's hope I'm a prophet.

But July which year?

Quote from Macfox :

1. They should give a shit. Any business that ignores it's customers isn't going to last.
   
2. All the excuses about tyre physics etc, doesn't explain the lack of content updates. We haven't seen a new track in (3+?) years.
   
3. Adding a developer or tyre simulation/physics expert might delay the rumoured release, but the longer term benefits would make it worth while.
   

+infinite
Specilly the bold part, there better be something in the works.

And I was thinking, when the physics are released, there will be a "Extreme setups" option, would that mean we will be finally able to put road tyres on GTR's?

Last edited by kimd41, Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:22.

LFS just needs more CONTENT. I don't know what Eric is doing, but other than the VWS, Rockingham, he should have the unnanunced car done and ANOTHER one in development. Like seriously, it doesn't take MONTHS to model a [mid-poly] car.

Quote from Miller :

If we assume that, the physics will only run well on a very fast PC in single player mode. It would still be great to get a video demonstrating them.

I can't wait until I can drive it!

Damn man, you're from 2004 and still Demo!

If you are coming from Need For Speed games you have a nice road to learn


Also, stp tlkin lyk dis, mkay?

Full support from Skoda? Scawen, take note.

http://www.driver-game.com

I hope this one is good!

Quote from bunder9999 :

i'm going to laugh when post 4000 comes and goes... you guys are acting as if it has any strategic importance.

Seriously?