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hyntty
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Quote from tristancliffe :High Speed Convoys

Now wouldn't there be smarter techniques than night vision to do that. Still, that'd be mint
hyntty
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Quote from Wilko868 :But you're shooting people?

We cease fire on weekends.
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Quote from Wilko868 :Anyway, I don't know who I'd run with. Ellis? :doh:

Thanks for the ****ing confidence.
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Quote from Rikje :
if there is a spot left could I participate? I need more experience in gtr racing.

don't know, but afaik you're still down as #20 Core team manager...
hyntty
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Quote from el pibe :did he crash ?

No just got stuck in snow losing 20 odd minutes
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Quote from ksa_land :or, scroll up, click on 'Thread Tools' and then on 'Subscribe to this Thread'

...

And then what, do what NAI said? What a pointless advice on the whole
hyntty
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Quote from Krane :Street view in Finland Yay!

I didn't know some roads in Helsinki only have a name in Swedish?
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Quote from Joe_Keaveney : I can do VOIP,

Now how can that work? I'm afraid to even think of the ping with a 3g connection
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Quote from buck77 :when are we going to have a 4th practice session?

and, Deko, where is that sheet with the drivers already able to race the 250?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=64957
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Alright who tipped him off?

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Quote from TFalke55 : I hope no one can understand what I mean,

You got that right.
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Quote from richard dk :And why do you bother at all about iRacing. You never ever gave the homepage a try.. So let it go....
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I won't let it go because you keep calling me stupid for no apparent reason at all. I've made many points to which "you're a bit stupid aren't you" is not an answer. It's hardly my fault that I have some media reading skills is it? What I see here (I feel like I'm repeating myself) is a few simple marketing tricks designed to deceive a potential customer to think iracing is cheaper than it actually is. If you fail to see that, well my caring is beyond imagination, but please refrain from calling people stupid just because they are critical towards salesmen.
hyntty
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Quote from richard dk :
The cars and track information took only one click each to get...

No. I figure it took me, or would have taken about 10 clicks or so to find that all out. I admit I started from the wrong end and went from left to right when looking through the nav menu (but hey, I'm not arabian so you can't really blame me.)

My point is, the site is done deliberately in a way that info is hard to find. The simplest trick here is the one where it isn't said how much it would set you back if you bought all of the content. To make matters worse it doesn't actually say anywhere what the additional content costs (remember my quote? Cars and tracks cost either 11.95 or 14.95 ) so you cannot even figure it out yourself. Of course the insanely complicated discount system has some effect on this as well but I can't pin the blame entirely on it as I can understand the point behind a discount when you subscribe for a longer period of time. Volume discounts I'm not too certain about.

The fact is, you've often seen a car review irl where the reviewer complains about the ridiculously expensive optional extras, and how the "as low as" price is so deceiving. iRacing is doing exactly the same. I can't say I blame them because it is quite frankly extortion. You could argue that LFS in comparison is equally expensive if you take in to account all the services included but in reality iracing should be cheaper because they should get savings from having everything centered in one place (eg everyone not having to buy their servers individually).
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Quote from richard dk :who is a moron, you???? How hard is it to find their prices http://www.iracing.com/membership/faqs-2/

I doubt you ever looked...

No u

Quote :A basic subscription for one year is $99 (which translates to $8.55 per month) and comes with everything you need to compete in your rookie season - three cars, two of them with two specifications each and seven tracks with 15 different configurations. We also offer additional content (cars and tracks) that cost either $11.95 or $14.95. Volume discounts are also available: 10% for any three pieces of content purchased at the same time, 20% for any six pieces of content purchased at the same time and 25% when you purchase everything available. The most cost-effective method to subscribe over time is the 2-year subscription plan which costs $179 or less than $7.50 per month. We also offer one and three month subscription packages for $14 and $36 respectively. In addition, we offer race participation credit in which you can earn up to $40 per year to put towards future purchases.

I still doesn't say what it costs. Except for the basic package. If someone is stupid enough to buy that load of marketing bullshit, well quite frankly they deserve to be ripped off. Again, it's not that hard to write a price list for all the extra content you will undoubtedly buy. Or actually list all the content you can buy, it is after all close enough to say it'll cost either 12 or 15$...
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Quote from obsolum :I wasn't referring to iRacing, though, so why you included that part of my post I don't know. I was just saying that if I were a potential customer now, I don't know if I would buy an S2 license. Period. That's all I said. I didn't imply that I would rather rent iRacing. Just that by today's standards LFS is... well... not as spectacular as many people on this forum make it out to be

A potential customer is quite likely to buy something eventually... so what else is there?

Besides, LFS isn't something you'd pick up as a spur of the moment from the shop. So if you were referring to those type of potential customers I fail to see your point. You can hardly argue a person looking for a simrace title would just walk away not buying anything? Or am I not getting the point (again) ?
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Quote from obsolum :
As things stand now, though, I'm not sure if I would pay for an S2 license if I were a new potential customer.

I'm not too certain about that. I was just browsing the iracing site and the thing is I would never pay those prices for a game. Ever. 15 $ a month, and my educated guess is that you'd have to buy more content (I don't know because I couldn't find any info on that at the site... which is another reason why I wouldn't buy iracing. It's not that hard to clearly state your pricing and what it includes, bloody morons).

So with only 3 developers LFS could never climb up to the absurdity of iracing's pricing. And that's a huge plus side.
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Let's face it, you're trying to boost your ego a bit because you're jealous to Vale right?

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Quote from Drift King CZ :Please try to find out why Niko Puntola has the rights to kick me...

...

He hasn't/can't
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Quote from blackbird04217 :Annoying stuff

BTW you can make things easier for yourself by

a) not using tables
b) not listening to boothy

note that a I'm not too certain about since divs aren't much friendlier either. But at least it doesn't look like it came from the 90's
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Quote from AlienServe :Hi, sorry but dont offer 12 slots at present, 10 slots however is £1.50 and 20 slots is £3.00

You missread that one, he wants 12 voice servers, not 12 pounds.
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Quote from TypeRacing :It's AWESOME

They needed the money
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Quote from Drift King CZ :I don't know if tracker is about to be updated, but now there are some not working flag images... Tiger Express Motorsports, E-Team (+1 there's something wrong about 3rd driver), ConeDodgers.

You no longer represent the glorious republic of 6-404-not-found?
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