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Gunn
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Quote from Quixx :Where can I get X37? how can I find out which X I have? Yesterday I updated to Patch Y and now My S2 license is away. The program showed me "Path info changed" as I started first gone after updating. now I can race only the demo. Help me, please!

You need to unlock the game now that you have applied the new patch Y. Use your game password to do this from within LFS.

You can check your current version from the main LFS screen. (see attachment below).
Gunn
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Quote from JTbo :But how about this?

Demo user, possible 36£ of income
S2 Licensed user, possible 12£ of income

Convincing demo user to buy licence is much more worth than keeping S2 user satisfied.

Just trying to bring another angle to subject

Another angle: many demo users who have enjoyed the XRT for free for so long may now finally be prompted to get licensed. Those who have been deliberately sponging for ages probably wouldn't fork out the money no matter how good/bad the demo was.
Gunn
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I'm happy with the AI progress, but like Ian I believe that situational awareness is the highest priority. I hope it is now high on the agenda of things to be improved.
Gunn
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Quote from lfs-drift staff :i dont fully agree of your reaction but all demo racer crying and they dont use their brain soo i agree of your reaction

Meh, what else can we say? The devs aren't going to change their minds just because a person who doesn't even own the game disagrees with the direction LFS has taken. Ultimatums from demo users won't change anything. I hope they buy a license and join us in the full LFS S2. But not all demo users are complaining or making demands. There are many thousands of them, but only a handful complaining.
Gunn
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Quote from Stnmtz :
as a demo player i refuse this game untill they will recover xr gt!

Ok, bye.
Gunn
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Hard to believe someone is deliberately promoting Telstra, but anyway: add a race number and a few small sponsors to the wing and fuselage to fill the design out more. Also check your decals for stretching, you may wish to shrink them lengthwise to compensate.
Gunn
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That seems strange.
Gunn
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Quote from The Very End :Guess you moderators have a lot of work this christmas with dealing all these complain threads Frown
What about removing demo posting? Meaning demo users canot write on the forum Uhmm

I think it's only fair to let people vent and speak their mind. The annoying posts will die down eventually (like they always do after a major update). If demo users have enjoyed LFS so far, or even see some great things about it, then I'm sure they'll buy it if they really want it.
There will always be some people who can't be satisfied with their free content, but if they can find a better sim demo then they should go for that instead of LFS.
I'm not satisfied with some changes in the recent patch either, but I've felt the same way in the past and always ended up coming to my senses in time.

As long as people don't get too abusive or rude they should be allowed to give their opinions. It's frustrating to read posts by some who truly don't understand the nature of LFS, but that is to be expected with a true sim.
Gunn
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With threads like this, who needs TV? :munching_
Gunn
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Quote from mathew4445 :What do you expect me to drift... ? the RB4?

Sure. Why not?

The reason I mentioned the unlock thing is because some old versions can be unlocked thanks to some work done by The Angry Angel. But IIRC E was too far back in the development of things and the unlocking method was different back then.

Try this link.

Here is the thread about unlocking some of the old versions.
Gunn
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Quote from mathew4445 :
3. Version 0.1 :o (Anyone got a download link for LFS 0.1E ? I wanna try some keyboard drifting again...)

E5 was the last version with the original steering compensation. But it is not possible to unlock that version, so you'll have to be content with Blackwood only.
Gunn
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Does The Gimp handle PSD files?
Gunn
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Sticks and stones....
Gunn
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The logical thing to do would be to clear them all. The old ones mean nothing now, they will not be representative of our true performance under the latest version.

As with past updates, almost everyone will be using the latest patch in the future. To keep the stats consistent and relevant, the information should be based on the updated version.

For some of the newer players to LFS this might seem a bit disappointing, but older hands will recall how updates have often affected the relevance of LFS World stats. Personally, I use the PB times to gauge my progress on a given track. The old PBs won't help me now. Having said that, if I have to clear them manually I am willing to do so.
Gunn
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Thanks Santa.
Gunn
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Quote from wark :I miss kidcodea.

Maybe you should improve your aim then?
Gunn
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*click*
Gunn
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After a few more beers tonight I'll probably look up in the sky and see two southern crosses anyhow. :drink:
Gunn
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Quote from hansonator69 :That is crazy! so i have to keep looking at the car in cmx viewer so i can line it up??? Too Hard.

If you can open PSD files, try the Master Skinnerz Pro Kits. They contain a wire frame overlay to assist with lining your graphics up together. It can save a lot of time.
Gunn
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Currently you need to overwrite one of the default ones.
Gunn
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Haven't read the whole thread....

Twin exhaust on XRT (GTT ) Bring it back dammit!
RAW files for skin textures.
No upper suspension limit caused big wheelies over the hump at BLR.
If you parked next to the entrance of the RallyX part of BL and reset your car you would be flung so high in the air that the track below looked like a Minty wrapper.
You could hammer through the pits at BLR and get airborne on the hump at the pit exit.
Gunn
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Quote from Bob Smith :True, but not stopping for red lights, driving on the pavement and overtaking on double white lines are all illegal too.

Is plowing through sidewalk crowds still a no-no?
Gunn
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Quote from SparkyDave :I think using a profiler type solution just to look around is unnessary and thought the way LFS handled the look buttons was really intuitive before , 2 buttons for left right or look back

About the HANS device you mention, you do realise that the tethers can be adjusted to allow for (yes more restricted) head movements, and the drivers view (his eyes) can easly look 90 deg left or right.

I think Quint was reacting to your paraghaph about bitching and moaning..... "One thing is for sure: bitching and moaning about changes won't get you very far. If you can't make a valid, sensible and polite argument for your case you won't gather much support. A petition is a waste of time, as petitions usually are. Insulting people who don't necessarily promote your view is also a waste of time. Hostility is no way forward, even if has been hatched from genuine frustration."

I understand a petition will not change anything , thats why I havn't added my name to it, but I do believe the way the view is handled in patch X31 is a step in the wrong direction and would like to continue disscussing it without all the mud slinging

SD.

I don't use the profiler personally. I also have never had any trouble using both buttons to look back, it isn't hard to do in my experience. A little practice does marvelous things.

Despite the adjustment of HANS, the typical racing harness doesn't give your shoulders much freedom to aid a head turn. You certainly won't be free too check blind spots.

I don't see why he would react to my comments unless he was guilty of bitching and moaning, but since I wasn't quoting anything he said I am at a loss to see why he took it upon himself to react the way he did. Unless he's just pissed off because of the changes and felt like taking it out on me. In any case, it was unwarranted to unleash his anger on me. My suggestion stands about making sensible arguments if you want to be taken seriously.

Thanks for taking the time to discuss your own concerns in a civilized manner, hopefully some others will learn form your example.

Quote from Hyperactive :
HANS is required only on international races. Other than that it is optional. From what I've gathered. I guess the word international in LFS includes the single seaters and maybe the GTRs. Maybe, because the cars are seemingly old looking and as such it is a bit mystery whether you would race them internationally on 2007. Nor that HANS was used at the time they were originally used (early 90s?). Not that HANS limits so heavily your vision not would be the main reason why your vision is somewhat blocked in real racing car. The seat has a much greater effect on this and is (would be) the best and most natural way of simulating the limited view or fov in LFS.

The requirement of HANS is not limited to international events (V8 Supercars since 2005, for example), it is up to each governing body to make their own rules. Racing seats also often have head protection which doesn't do much for your view either. Regardless of all that, HANS does limit your head and neck movement, as does a racing seat and harness.

Quote from Hyperactive :
There have been lots of good reasons why the instant 90-degree view should be still available on one button press. I'm not going to repeat them here.

I'm sure there have been lots of good reasons, though many people's feedback would serve them better if they detailed what controller and method they currently use. There IS a lot of silly and unproductive whining going on since the patch. Nobody learns anything from that.
I don't have any problem with a one-touch = 90 degree look, but neither do I foresee any problems in adapting to a 2-button look since it was never a problem when looking back under the old system.
Gunn
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Quote from STROBE :

Yep, no insults there.
Gunn
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Quote from Quint999 :Thanks for your hostility as per usual, time you took notice of your own posts.

MY post offered some advice about getting your issues heard and taken seriously and answered Deggis' post about why people feel the way they do about the realism. YOUR post was full of ignorant assumptions and drama. While I try to help people all you want to do is tear them down. Time you grew the hell up.
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